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My Latest P-40 project
Jerry Bates Plans P-40B
www.vicrc.com fuselage with www.sierragiant.com Landing gear and a Turnigy TR-55

the Wasp

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after 15 years, and with great pride, and tears in my eyes, I can now say I have joined the P-40 Brotherhood.

the first P-40 I bought is the World Models 46 size P-40 with a 57" span, I will be mounting an OS Hyper 50 Heli engine in it. it's speed should rip open the fabric of space and it maybe even end up into another dimension of space and time, but lets hope not because I would sure hate to lose it. while the World Models P-40 is not the most "to scale" P-40 it's a cool looking little plane and my first intentions with it was to move the cockpit back a bit and strip off the original covering and bash it into a P-37 open cockpit racer. the Fuselage would have been done in aluminum and a bit of red, and the top of the main wing in yellow/black checkers and the tail feathers in club yellow, it would have made a cool old racing plane, but when I received the plane I found the control surfaces were pre installed so I quickly gave up on that idea, after all the P-40 is the plane that has the most character of all the American WW11 fighters,, the Mustang may be a beautiful plane, but the P-40 looks like one mean SOB that will eat you alive and say "thank you for making my day",,, I will name this one "the Hair of the Dog"

the 2nd P-40 I bought is the VQ .60 size with a span of 61.80", I will be mounting a 15cc gasser engine in it, the VQ is really neat, she will be my lady so she will be named "the Bell of Hell", careful cause she will scratch out your eyes if you mess with her

what I like about these two is that they are small and are more "toy like" than big planes, so less stress and more fun, and faster and lower fly byes.

I will see you off your right wing, keep straking guys !!

Jim

RCPROPSNAPPER

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Hello P40 brothers. I just acquired a 1/6 scale Pica P40 kit from EBay and am awaiting its arrival. I plan on modeling after NZ 3009, a New Zealand P40 on the airshow circuit there. I have an OS155a FS that will spin a Belia 3 blade. I haven't decided on which retracts to use just yet. This will be my first kit that I will glass. I am excited to build it as I always loved the P40 and decided to finally add one to my considerable warbirds fleet. I request that I be signed up for theP40 brotherhood.

pfrank

Not quite done but getting there.

RCPROPSNAPPER

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Hey guys, I have a situation with a Pica 1/6th scale P40 kit that I purchased off of a guy on EBay. He advertised it as a complete Pica kit. It took about 3 weeks for him to ship it which was disappointing seeing as how I paid him right away. Anyways, when I opened the box I discover that it is a Pica kit but with a scaled down Ziroli wing and tail. He didn't mention this in his ad. As far as I can tell all of the wing and tail parts as well as the Pica parts are all there and they are all lazer cut. He included the wing and tail scaled down Ziroli plans. My question is, to some of you, is would you build this kit as it is? I am an experienced builder and am confidant that I can build it but I am a bit concerned about fitment and how it is going to fly. I would appreciate any of your thoughts.

pfrank

Perhaps you can build and scale the wing and tail to your preference.

Fly2XS

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If you are not happy with the sale and you paid via PayPal, you can file a report using eBay Buyer Protection. They will put a lock on his funds until you are satisfied.
If you don't care then just build it.

RCPROPSNAPPER

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Yes, I sent him a message to indicate my displeasure with his deception. I know that I can return it but I am undecided at this point. I am leaning towards building it.

RCPROPSNAPPER

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Hi Pfrank. I am thinking that the Ziroli wing and tail should be almost exactly the same size and probably very close to the same shape. I guess I really wouldn't know for sure until I build it and see how everything fits together.

Lifer

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Regardless of what you choose to do, he deceived you. Personally, I'd get a refund or re-negotiate the price.

pilotdude57

I am the one who sold him the Pica P-40 1/6 scale kit and just informed him by Ebay message that I now have the wing plans and parts for the Pica wing, and I will send him, free of charge, a copy of the plans and the laser cut wing parts to build the Pica wing, as soon as I get lite ply from Bud Nosen in Minnesota. That way he will have TWO wings to compare flight performance. The Ziroli wing has more curvature on the bottom of the wing, so should fly better upside down (without stalling).

radfordc

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If you really like the plane I'll bet the Ziroli parts will work as well as the Pica parts.

RCPROPSNAPPER

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After looking at the plan, and talking to people, I have come to the same conclusion. Ziroli is a very good designer and it appears that his wing will have no problem fitting the Pica fuselage. The seller has agreed to send me a Pica wing kit as well after I complained so I'll have my choice or I can build both wings for the plane.

Chad Veich

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Seems odd to me that the seller has, or can acquire, the proper wing kit yet did not supply it with your kit initially nor even mention that the "kit" included Ziroli flying surfaces to be mated to the Pica fuselage. That's a rather important piece of information to just gloss over! He does realize Pica is out of business and he can't just call them up and order a wing kit right? Were it mine I think I would throw away the Pica fuselage and just make the whole thing a shrunk down Ziroli. The Pica kit was far from scale and while the Ziroli is no precision scale airplane it certainly is the better of the two. At any rate I am glad that the seller is working to make things right and hope to see a build thread on your P-40 when you get started. Good luck with it!

RCPROPSNAPPER

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Believe me Chad, this was the oddest transaction I have ever experienced on EBay. The seller has a 1/5 scale Pica P40 for sale on EBay so he says he is going to shrink down the wing plans. He has access to a laser cutting machine so he is going to cut the Pica wing pieces and send them to me. I think that may have been his original plan but he took 3 weeks to ship the kit so he probably was getting nervous about the shipping time and sent the Ziroli wing to appease me. At least that is my theory. When I emailed him, he sent back a lengthy email about how he lost his job and was living with his mother. If that is true, I feel for him but he should have advertised the kit properly and I told him that. Anyways, your idea of getting a Ziroli fuselage is intriguing because building a Ziroli was always on my bucket list. As far as far as a build thread, I will do that but I am not sure when I will start the kit. I could use all the help and advice I can get especially from master builders like you.

pilotdude57

I only stated why it took so long to ship, as I am temporarily unemployed as an ex-FAA Air Traffic Controller who had to resign in order to access my retirement fund as the only way to pay an attorney $15,000 to file a lawsuit against the FAA for myself and 159 other controllers who had our right to equal treatment violated by our own Union and the FAA, cheating us out of an average of $7,000 per year, myself out of $15,000 per year upon arrival at our new facilities after the 14-month delay in contracting out our control towers at small airports, then progressively worse as time went on as subsequent pay raises were a percentage of an already-ERRONEOUSLY-established pay level, causing the INCORRECT distribution of $200 million among Air Traffic Controllers, causing the other 14,982 controllers to be ILLEGALLY OVERPAID by, on average, $2.87 per paycheck after the third year of the distribution, enough to buy 3 or 4 candy bars every two weeks, so did not have the money to ship the kit, as when a person pays with Paypal you cannot use the money that has been paid for shipping, you have to use your own money then get reimbursed when the money is released to you. At the time I shipped it, I did not have the 1/6 Pica P-40 plans, so could not have the wing ribs, but just a few days ago I obtained the plans from a guy in England, who was gracious enough to send me his copy, that he was done with, for only $7 shipping. Now I can laser cut the 1/6 ribs and supply the plans. I do have the Ziroli fuselage plans, so if you want I can scale it down from the 94" wingspan size and laser cut the Ziroli bulkheads and send you the scaled down plans also. I would only charge you for cost of material plus 10%, but I have to wait to get the lite ply from Bud Nosen in Minnesota.

91zulu

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The Pica kits are a bear to build but the planes come out nice, that is if you are a skilled builder. I had both Pica Spitfires and they were very good flying planes. Ziroli kits are also very good, I would say easier to build than Pica. Pica kits are a lot of carving.
I say measure the wing root of both fuse and wing. May have to adjust the top of the wing at the saddle and watch the incidence. I also think the Ziroli wing if fitted right will make the plane fly better due to Ziroli wings being more forgiving than Pica.

RCPROPSNAPPER

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I know the Pica kits. I have a Pica FW 190 D that I built years ago. It is one of the best flying warbirds in my fleet. I am leaning towards building it with the Ziroli wing.

91zulu

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I would give it a go. Right now I`m about to build the 72 inch Ziroli P47 wings to put on a CMPro P47. I`m hoping to get it ready for the summer.

RCPROPSNAPPER

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Yes, I am definitely going to build it. Always wanted a P40.

tailskid

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Good for you...and do a build series!

the Wasp

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help, what engine size to use,

guys, I'm having trouble deciding on what engine to use on my .60 size VQ P-40.. note that I am looking to burn Gas..

keep in mind this P-40 has a span of 61.80 inches, and should weigh in around 9.5 to 10.5 pounds, note that I guess at that weigh because people have reported their plane came in at 8.5 pounds setup for electric flight, but then again they didn't say if they used retracts,

I was all set to use my Zenoah 20, it's a modified B H Hanson Heli engine, so it produces about 20% more power than stock,, but when I received my plane I found the Zenoah is a very tight fit in the Cowl, I would have to cut a hole in the Cowl for the carb, and the carb would stick out at least an inch, and I would have to cut another hole for the muffler, not happy about all that !!

so I was looking at the newest 15cc Gas engines, everything sounded pretty good with prop sizes vs RPM numbers, so I kept on researching them in the forums,

well the people that own these 15cc gas engines are putting them in lighter planes that come out to weigh around 8 pounds, and they say that these engines have a bit less power than a good 90 size glow 2st,, SO I would think I need and want more power than a 90 size glow 2st in a 10 pound plane, besides that I want to burn Gas, and I want to zip around and climb out like a RC Fighter should,

so I'm still looking at what engine to use, can I get some inputs/suggestions ??

thanks guys !!

Jim

LDM

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I had two of the VQ P40ties .
I used a 4 stroke 90 , with a turbo muffler , all fit in the cowl. You can still get great 4 strokes at Hobby King , they are under the ASP brand but are the same as Magnum designs.
The concern i have with gas is the front frame is weak , if you go gas you better beef up the balsa leading to the ply bulkheads and glass the inside. I lost my first one as a result of a weak front end, my second flew for 4 years and I sold it and the next guy is still flying it .
Take precautions and the plane will last a long time.
If you have the newest design ( meaning released in the last 18months) you should have the lightest version of the all the VQ P40 releases so you dont need to over power this plane.

Charley

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Wasp, you don't say what the model actually weighs, sans engine. Have you weighed it? The target weight on the VQ website is ~8lb not counting the mechanical retracts. I'd expect another 1/2 lb with the retract servo & linkage. I'd use servoless retracts though, with metal trunions. There are several threads on this bird. Maybe you should ask around some more. Oh, most electric guys give the all-up weight of their birds - meaning with the battery installed. Here's an old thread about using a DLE 20: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/gas-...vq-p-40-a.html

CR