150% enlarged WingontheWeb HO-229
#276
RE: 150% enlarged WingontheWeb HO-229
Thomas,
Very nice work on the 229. Looking forward to seeing you finish this interesting aircraft. Been following this thread from the start.
Very glad to hear a DO 335 is next up. Curious what your plan is for building? Are you going with the Don Smith plan or are you going to make a mold?
Regards,
John B.
Very nice work on the 229. Looking forward to seeing you finish this interesting aircraft. Been following this thread from the start.
Very glad to hear a DO 335 is next up. Curious what your plan is for building? Are you going with the Don Smith plan or are you going to make a mold?
Regards,
John B.
#278
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RE: 150% enlarged WingontheWeb HO-229
Well, got a bunch done over the past few days in anticipation of flying this thing on sunday.... if it doesn't snow tomorrow.
First up was getting the lower strut landing gear doors installed... ended up having some issues with the upper strut doors and had to remove those, but i'm going to try to re-install them on saturday:
Then got the outer wing panel attachment bolts drilled and tapped.. then I had one of these snap off, permanently attaching the right wing panels forward wing tube to the center section. Anyone have any idea's on remove a 4-40 bolt that is counter sunk about 1" Below the surface?
Then the nose gear doors were converted to electric actuation with a pair of HS82MG servo's:
Gear servo and valve installed:
All of the outer wing panel control surface linkages were completed. The hatch's cut and installed and all of the radio programming completed:
Then I cut out the holes for the wing panel servo extensions:
Then everything.... fan units, batter mounts, rx, match box's, gear sequencer, thrust tubes, all the extensions... yadda yadda yadda............ was installed and the outer wing panels put in place. Tom also dropped by this evening and we did a CG check... good news is, we'll be able to get it into CG with only 8 to 10oz of nose ballast needed... Anyways. here is a photo of all the Stuff needed in the nose to get it to CG ( four- 6s 5000 lipo's, 8oz Nicad battery, 2s2300 A123, 3s2300 A123).
The 3s2300 A123 will be replaced by another 2s2300 A123 battery for receiver power, and the 8oz Nicad battery was just used to determine how much nose weight was needed to get it into CG..
First up was getting the lower strut landing gear doors installed... ended up having some issues with the upper strut doors and had to remove those, but i'm going to try to re-install them on saturday:
Then got the outer wing panel attachment bolts drilled and tapped.. then I had one of these snap off, permanently attaching the right wing panels forward wing tube to the center section. Anyone have any idea's on remove a 4-40 bolt that is counter sunk about 1" Below the surface?
Then the nose gear doors were converted to electric actuation with a pair of HS82MG servo's:
Gear servo and valve installed:
All of the outer wing panel control surface linkages were completed. The hatch's cut and installed and all of the radio programming completed:
Then I cut out the holes for the wing panel servo extensions:
Then everything.... fan units, batter mounts, rx, match box's, gear sequencer, thrust tubes, all the extensions... yadda yadda yadda............ was installed and the outer wing panels put in place. Tom also dropped by this evening and we did a CG check... good news is, we'll be able to get it into CG with only 8 to 10oz of nose ballast needed... Anyways. here is a photo of all the Stuff needed in the nose to get it to CG ( four- 6s 5000 lipo's, 8oz Nicad battery, 2s2300 A123, 3s2300 A123).
The 3s2300 A123 will be replaced by another 2s2300 A123 battery for receiver power, and the 8oz Nicad battery was just used to determine how much nose weight was needed to get it into CG..
#280
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RE: 150% enlarged WingontheWeb HO-229
This thing is by far the most complex model i've ever dealt with when it comes to radio programming. 12 servo's, 2 match box's, 1 gear sequencer, 40 feet of servo wire, 2 batteries, 2 switch's, 9 channels, SIX Mixes, a very complex model it all forms..
But damn is it cooL!
But damn is it cooL!
#281
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Youre damn right it's "cool"! Let me see if this works, I't normally works for my kids with me.....Let's see, how does it go again..
CAN I HAVE IT, CAN I HAVE IT, CAN I HAVE IT, CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,....Working yet.. Should I keep going..lol.
No but seriously, AWESOME.
CAN I HAVE IT, CAN I HAVE IT, CAN I HAVE IT, CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,CAN I HAVE IT,....Working yet.. Should I keep going..lol.
No but seriously, AWESOME.
#287
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I'm expecting to hear from allot of people if the maiden go's well and it flies.. The big question is, How many are Tom and myself wanting to sell before spring/summer. As I have three other projects to finish before then for myself and customers.
#290
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You might want to postpone for a warmer day. Lipos do not perform nearly as well in sub 40 degree weather. I have had smaller batteries that would not put out any amps until they warmed up a bit. I would keep them in my back pockets to warm them up. My 110 amp ViperJet EDF picks up RPM noticeably after a lap or two when its super cold out.
#293
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Did you solve the bolt issue?
Could you use a piece of brass tubing notched into a saw to cut down enough to use a Dremel to notch the bolt into a slot or get a pair of vice grips on it? The surface around it can I assume be repaired later? Perhaps with a plywood washer?
Can the tube be left in place permanently?
Whit
#295
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RE: 150% enlarged WingontheWeb HO-229
ORIGINAL: invertmast
The me262 was hindered due to lack of fuel, pilots and the slow acceleration during takeoff and long approaches needed for landing, not to mention the high maintenance.
The 335 could of provided higher performance (compared to other piston planes) without any of the drawbacks that the 262s were hindered by.
The me262 was hindered due to lack of fuel, pilots and the slow acceleration during takeoff and long approaches needed for landing, not to mention the high maintenance.
The 335 could of provided higher performance (compared to other piston planes) without any of the drawbacks that the 262s were hindered by.
#296
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RE: 150% enlarged WingontheWeb HO-229
I got the wing tube out of the center section and fixed the goof up from that:
Then between yesterday and today... The fan units were installed, Extensions routed, steering servo mount plate mounted, steering pull pull installed, Rx mounted, Air fill valve and pressure gauge installed and all the air lines plumbed, routed and pressure checked. Thrust tube extensions made, Parallel battery adapters made. Essentially the entire airplane is READY TO FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pictures:
So... tomorrow we plan to do the maiden
BUT
We did a taxi test trial tonight after getting everything finished. Acceleration on 6S is pretty good considering the weight. But my front yard is a bit bumpy and the Nose gear strut mount pin sheared off during the trials. After looking at the material in the break, its pretty obvious this material is pretty cheap junk. So my buddy Tom is modifying some Grade 8 bolts to replace the shear pin since we don't want it to shear off again. He has one done, so tomorrow morning we will repair the nose gear and one of the door's (the door servo arm broke).
Then, we are going to pack up the airplane to go FLY IT!!!! We will have two or three video camera's at the field, one of which is HD so we should have a good bit of video from different view angle's..
Hopefully all go's well, b/c if it doesn't, i'm not screwing with another one of these this year. lol
Then between yesterday and today... The fan units were installed, Extensions routed, steering servo mount plate mounted, steering pull pull installed, Rx mounted, Air fill valve and pressure gauge installed and all the air lines plumbed, routed and pressure checked. Thrust tube extensions made, Parallel battery adapters made. Essentially the entire airplane is READY TO FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pictures:
So... tomorrow we plan to do the maiden
BUT
We did a taxi test trial tonight after getting everything finished. Acceleration on 6S is pretty good considering the weight. But my front yard is a bit bumpy and the Nose gear strut mount pin sheared off during the trials. After looking at the material in the break, its pretty obvious this material is pretty cheap junk. So my buddy Tom is modifying some Grade 8 bolts to replace the shear pin since we don't want it to shear off again. He has one done, so tomorrow morning we will repair the nose gear and one of the door's (the door servo arm broke).
Then, we are going to pack up the airplane to go FLY IT!!!! We will have two or three video camera's at the field, one of which is HD so we should have a good bit of video from different view angle's..
Hopefully all go's well, b/c if it doesn't, i'm not screwing with another one of these this year. lol