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Old 01-24-2013, 04:45 AM
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Default Fokke RC Messerschmitt 109e 1/5th scale

Hi guys, just the other day I opened a box with great excitement and a bit of apprehension as it had travelled half way around the world from a far off land so I was expecting some damage to the contents.
I was pleasantly surprised when I found the 1/5th scale BF or ME 109 (your choice, I'll refer to it as a 'BF") fiber glass scale model in the condition it was sent. Perfect.

Firstly the box is double layered cardboard and tied all together with that plastic strap stuff you just cant tear. The individual items are bubble wrapped and some are in plastic bags. The fiber glass parts look very nice , being thin, light and void of any moulding 'flash' so clean up will be easy.
The ply parts are nicely laser cut out and look like they will hold together with no glue! They are bagged in a couple of different packages for fuselage and then wings. Next is the beautiful plans on two sheets. Man I will be looking after these and framing the side profile one I think. The instruction booklet is A4 and bound in an office type folder that is both functional and excellent if you want to copy some thing.
I have followed Rumen's thread from the start (well pretty early on) and I loved the whole build and look of the model from the first time I saw it.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5311706/tm.htm
As I type tonight, the first prototype model has still not had a test flight so the whole concept is un-proven but I have a great feeling about it all and have invested in it whole heartedly.
Now, I find myself not quite in a position to start this build as things are happening in my life (good things) but I shall start the thread and see where it ends up.
Initially I'll post some pictures of what I actually received, gather a gear list and sort what aircraft I will depict.
Feel free to ask any questions though I'm sure fokke will answer them better and please help me with info and ideas to make a beautiful BF 109 in 1/5 th scale.

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I wanted to wish you good luck with your build. This is such a lovely rendering of the Emil. I think Rumen Has done an amazing job capturing the look of real sheet metal. I have never seen anyone recreate the "oil canning"  that you see on full scale aircraft skins on a model before.
I am curious to see what paint scheme you will choose, your power system, etc. I will be following along with great interest.
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Congrats Brad, and congrats Rumen!

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subscribed. Cant wait to see this one go together. Congrats on the awesome new kit, now get to it!
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Default RE: Fokke RC Messerschmitt 109e 1/5th scale

From the plans it looks like the wings are built up balsa?

So this is basically an ARP (almost ready to paint) model?
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The balsa would be the sub-structure.  I believe you get molded wing skins as well.

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Default RE: Fokke RC Messerschmitt 109e 1/5th scale

Thanks gentlemen and yes Casey is correct about the wing skins.
All info is available on foke's thread. This one will be to show how a customer/builder will put it together and the problems etc along the way. Not that I see too many at the moment. It should just be fun.

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I have been enjoying going through the kit and the instructions and fokke's thread (again) and looking for equipment for the build.
One thing I have already contacted Rumen about is the lack of the wing tubes in the kit. Now I know this is so far a limited run kit and cost savings are important ETC. but I for one would rather pay that bit extra for something as integral as the wing tubes that suit. Maybe I am just used to ARFs.
The required 35mm and 15mm carbon tubes are however readily available and making the outer tube should not pose any problems.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321056547...ht_2121wt_1163
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/35mm-OD-X...ht_3074wt_1163

Also I am looking at these Shinden retracts.
http://shindinmachine.com/ME109/ME109.html
The Platt 109 is 1/5th scale at 79" where as this one is 78". Don't think I will be able to tell the difference.

Lots of great ideas but so little time to do any thing.
My mate at work has a good saying. "So much to do but so little getting done"

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Old 01-25-2013, 11:42 AM
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Hi Brad, as you know I dont use Siera landing gears for my model , but I think that all landing giars for 75-79 " wingspan models 9-10 kg for BF -s will be fine .
The stalk must be 225mm or 8.8 Inch. I thinkg that Shindin are good , but the air cylinder will be outside the fuselage contour and you must to corect the first rib of the wings So , I think that
http://www.sierragiant.com/prod39.html
http://shindinmachine.com/ME109/ME109.html
http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items...109-73ER3.html

Off course this:
http://centuryjet.com/product_info.p...products_id/64
http://centuryjet.com/product_info.p...oducts_id/1097
but they are to expensive

Thins is goos choyce: http://www.gz-retracts.com/index.php/fahrwerke/gz40 this mechanick (Hauptfahrwerk) will be IN the fuselage !

THIS TO: http://shop.lindinger.at/product_inf...ducts_id=12665 to 15 kg model

This is full kit and I think that is a BEST CHOICE : http://shop.lindinger.at/product_inf...36&language=en

So you can buy and this. If you buy them you can twist the mechanism and air cilinder will be IN the fuselage
http://www.hawe-modellbau.de/fotogal...es/ME-109.html


Tubes : 35mm http://sdshobbyusa.net/index.php?mai...roducts_id=349
tube 15mm http://sdshobbyusa.net/index.php?mai...roducts_id=396

Wheels : http://www.glennis.com/germanwarbirdgallery.htm for E versin





PS now I find some interesting germany retracts for 1/5 scale Bf-109 gears for servo on veeery good price !

http://www.ezfw.de/ezfw/ezf-100_04.htm

http://www.ezfw.de/ezfw/ezf-100.htm



By the wey I plan to sell my landing giears , build here in Bulgaria in very scale condition , but first I want to build the prototipe and then I"ll post pics

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I have an almost new MVVS 45cc MG on the shelve for this beauty...
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Thanks for all the info Mr fokke. I have been considering all different gears for the 109 but I might just wait to see how your prototypes work out before I buy any thing. You have been alright so far!! Your friends (mate's) 109 is looking splendid. Do you think it will be the first one to fly?
I have got the wing tubes sorted, they are on their way. I really want to have them for setting up the internal structure so I get everything nice and straight between the fuselage and wing.
As for power plant Orri yours is a great choice but I do think I am going electric on this one and I am thinking I will use the AXI motor I have for my Spitfire.
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/axi_5345_...ueryId=4185278

I am looking at colour schemes and this one I attach is by no means the final one but high on the list.

I am getting my money's worth just researching and looking at this thing.

Cheers,

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WOWOW very good news , ELECTRIC POWER I think is better choice Brad

The scheme , I think that best selection and with this light colours all the surface , rivets and panels will be much visible , so I can't wait to see the result
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Thanks Rumen I'm so happy you approve. I have always loved this type of scheme.
Now what about your mate's 109. Do you think it will be the first to fly? When might that be?

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Yes I think that the model of my friend will be the first in the air cose I don't have time now .
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Hi guys.
My carbon fibre wing tubes arrived in great time from China and they are very nice I must say. (links posted back up the page a touch)
So, I was straight into the 109 and having a think about how to do the first step of positioning and fixing the internal ribs that carry the tubes. These of course need to be aligned properly as the whole model relies on them to be square and true. Here is what I came up with.
First was to position the inner most wing rib to the external part of the fuselage and adjust it so I had a nice even border around the whole edge. I even grabbed a wing skin to check fit around the rib but they will need a bit of sanding at the very end from the mould so was not able to see what I wanted. I just made it all nice and even. So both sides marked out and a quick measurement from the leading edge to the front of the marked tube hole showed 117mm each side. So that was a good start.
Next up I cut out the glass for the tube making it a nice snug fit for now as these are Datum point at the moment and an oversized hole would loose the position of the inner fuselage support rib as they can move around the fuselage enough to put things out.
After a quick set up and check to see how things were going I proceeded with the rear 15mm tube holes.
Then, the moment of truth. I eye lined them up and yes they are perfectly parallel horizontally and the inner most wing ribs slid on nicely so they can't be too bad front to back either.
All this took about an hour to do. I have not glued anything at the moment but when I do I will be using my good old West Systems.
Now I have decided to ask any questions I need answered on fokke's original thread and then I will post what I end up with here. I hope that will work OK.
So far the kit is wonderful and I took heaps of pictures as I was doing stuff tonight so here are a good few to get the feel of what is happening.

Cheers,

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Really exciting to see the built with such great pics...keep it up!

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Really exciting to see the built with such great pics...keep it up!


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Are you going to have a sleeve for the wing tube to slide through? Looks great.

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Thanks for checking in guys and yes Darren I am going to do wing tube sleeves that I will be making soon. They will be for the wing sections only as the actual wing tube goes through extra structure in the fuselage so one is not required there. I will how ever ensure it is nice and strong with a bit of carbon fibre here and there. The ones for the wings will be butted up to the side of the ribs and not go through them as the fit through the ribs are perfect for the tube at 35mm. Hope this makes sense.

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Brad, with the wing center section molded as part of the fuselage, how are you going to get access to the radio system? Dan.
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Wonderful Model!
My next One?
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Hi Brad , we have a new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D3jOnODd94


And something new in our site , the best figures in 1/5 scale for the model from BestPilots
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Brad, with the wing center section molded as part of the fuselage, how are you going to get access to the radio system? Dan.
Hi Dan, I am thinking having the top of the cowl removable to get to the gear. In my ESM 109 I had the bottom of the cowl hatched as every thing was well forward to access.
Sorry for the late reply, I have been doing too much work and not enough modelling.
I am so close to starting my 109 I can taste the CA now.
Mr Fokke I will have a couple of questions soon. That is a great vid mate. Have you had more flights? I'll check your thread.

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