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Old 04-17-2013, 05:44 PM
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What type of glue do you guys use to strengthen bulkheads or add other forms inside ESM warbirds. I saw a vidieo one time that gene from TBM said they were having trouble with epoxy not sticking?

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Old 04-17-2013, 05:53 PM
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I would try either PFM, available through Hobby Lobby online, or the HYSOL epoxies, avail through McMaster Carr or BVM.

Beware using PFM on plastic, ESP Styrene as it will eat it up! But it's wonderfully flexible and glues to just about anything.

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I have used BVM Vpoxy with great results. Kind of expensive though...

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I suspect that the BVM Vpoxy IS the same thing as HYSOL?

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Amazing Goop sticks pretty well and is pliable when cured. I've had good reult with that and the Hysol epoxy.
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Gorilla glue works great inside esm fuselages
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Devcon Methyl-Methacrylate 14340. Workes awesome on glass. From McMAster-Carr:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#devcon-plas...esives/=mdiwjs

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What type of glue do you guys use to strengthen bulkheads or add other forms inside ESM warbirds. I saw a vidieo one time that gene from TBM said they were having trouble with epoxy not sticking?

If I want to glue for example forms in the fuselage I usually use epoxy glue and fibreglass fabric.
For the other connection I use glues made by SOUDAL. They are in the picture. At the last time I use it for my ESM La-7 and CMP Zero 50cc.
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Agree with F4u5, plastic wield works great. The key stuff is Methyl-Methacrylate, which I think is the same stuff in Hysol? Anyway, it's alot cheaper in the devcon line. In Canada we get it from Canadian Tire store, it's only about 10$ for a double tube pack, it's a two part epoxy.

A quick sand and a wipe with Acitone and away you go, it cures in 5 min.
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I suspect that the BVM Vpoxy IS the same thing as HYSOL?

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Similar, but not the same. Both work well inside ESM planes. I have both VPoxy and Hysol 9462 sitting on my workbench. I often add a little fiberglass to VPoxy and Hysol for added strength and longevity. I also think one of the strongest bonds is with Permatex red hi temp silicone...bonds a lot of stuff to fiberglass really well...and it is a vibration resistant bond.
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Thanks to all for your feedback!! I am gathering the parts and pieces to build my first ESM plane, 73" P51,and trying to have a plan going in on how I will do things. I am planning on going electric and need to build a battery box in the nose, with an access hatch on top. I think that I should be tieing the firewall to the first bulkhead to strengthen the opening in the fiberglass. I have looked at as many pictures as I could find of other peoples hatch's and needed to know what other people used for the glue. Thanks again!
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