Hangar 9 60cc Corsair
#676
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I guess I don't understand why guys hang around forum threads making comments not really pertinent to the thread and knocking the model in question? What'd you do, buy the TopFlite and now you're trying to make yourself feel better????
If you haven't bought the TopFlite, why don't you do so and participate in the huge thread here on RCU for that model?????
If you haven't bought the TopFlite, why don't you do so and participate in the huge thread here on RCU for that model?????
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Here's a video of the maiden flight of a H9 Corsair W/an FG84 for power. Looks like it flies well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQENh3BJNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQENh3BJNc
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I remember seeing something back on page 17 where one of the corsairs was lost due to the wing dowels coming loose. There was a recommendation to cut out a set of holes above the dowels in the center section and apply extra glue to ensure they stay put, but that's all i've heard on problems with the center section. It seems really stout as Manfred stated. Main spar is laminated and about an inch thick, and the glass work seems fairly strong. Capt, what issues have you heard about with the center section? Failure at the wing dowels, failure at the outer panel attachments? I'm curious...
I did notice on mine, there is about a 3/32" gap between the center section and front of the fuse when the wing is seated and tightened down. I believe I am going to fill that gap in so there is minimal chance of movement of the center section during flight. Thoughts? Anyone else find this condition with their model?
Thanks
I did notice on mine, there is about a 3/32" gap between the center section and front of the fuse when the wing is seated and tightened down. I believe I am going to fill that gap in so there is minimal chance of movement of the center section during flight. Thoughts? Anyone else find this condition with their model?
Thanks
Was in my local hobby shop and asked about ordering a Corsair, another guy said he knew the Houston Corsair that came apart in flight and said it was a wing dowel issue. I want one either way.....called Horizon to see how long the actual wait will be, I have wanted a large scale Corsair for some time. This is the one!
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Looks like this was already addressed. Got to hand it to Customer service at Horizon.
Hello All,
I just wanted to update you guys on a few things about the Corsair since they have been out in the consumers hands.
1. Wing Dowels - Unfortunately Matt's plane was lost when the wing dowels came loose in flight. As soon as I found out about this I checked all of the planes that we have flying here. All of the dowels were still glued in well and were not loose. Please make sure that these dowels are glued into this area very good. A good way to make sure that the dowels are glued in well and even add more glue to the back side of the dowel is to cut a small 1.25" hole directly behind each dowel about 1" back from the leading edge of the wing. This will give a good access to the back side of the joint to add more glue. If you have already built your plane check these to make sure that they did get enough glue on them.
2. Hidden Parts - The wing tip lenses and also the canopy sliders can be easy to look over in the bags when the plane is unpacked. The tip lenses are located in the same bag as the gun blisters. The canopy sliders are in a smaller clear bag that is stapled to the bag that the canopy is in.
3. Canopy Sliders - The sliders were supposed to have a plastic disc glued to the back of them to help distribute the load. The vendor left these out of the shipment (Sorry...) I am working with the vendor to get replacements for these. They are on a holiday right now so this may take a few weeks to sort out. This is a very simple fix and if you have already glued yours sliders on or just don't want to wait the part can be made from hard wood or plastic that is about 2mm thick. It is a round disc that is 1" in diameter and has a box cut out of the center for the slider to fit into.
4. Tail Wheel Air Cylinders - The cylinder was built to the wrong spec. The threaded hole in the end of the cylinder should have been 4-40 to fit the tail wheel push rod. It was threaded as 2-56. We are working with Robart to find the quickest and best way to correct any one who has the incorrect threaded cylinder.
Sorry for the inconveniences. I hope that all of you can enjoy the Corsair as much as I do and if you have any questions please ask. I will update on the status of the parts as I get more information on them.
Thanks
Attached Thumbnails I just wanted to update you guys on a few things about the Corsair since they have been out in the consumers hands.
1. Wing Dowels - Unfortunately Matt's plane was lost when the wing dowels came loose in flight. As soon as I found out about this I checked all of the planes that we have flying here. All of the dowels were still glued in well and were not loose. Please make sure that these dowels are glued into this area very good. A good way to make sure that the dowels are glued in well and even add more glue to the back side of the dowel is to cut a small 1.25" hole directly behind each dowel about 1" back from the leading edge of the wing. This will give a good access to the back side of the joint to add more glue. If you have already built your plane check these to make sure that they did get enough glue on them.
2. Hidden Parts - The wing tip lenses and also the canopy sliders can be easy to look over in the bags when the plane is unpacked. The tip lenses are located in the same bag as the gun blisters. The canopy sliders are in a smaller clear bag that is stapled to the bag that the canopy is in.
3. Canopy Sliders - The sliders were supposed to have a plastic disc glued to the back of them to help distribute the load. The vendor left these out of the shipment (Sorry...) I am working with the vendor to get replacements for these. They are on a holiday right now so this may take a few weeks to sort out. This is a very simple fix and if you have already glued yours sliders on or just don't want to wait the part can be made from hard wood or plastic that is about 2mm thick. It is a round disc that is 1" in diameter and has a box cut out of the center for the slider to fit into.
4. Tail Wheel Air Cylinders - The cylinder was built to the wrong spec. The threaded hole in the end of the cylinder should have been 4-40 to fit the tail wheel push rod. It was threaded as 2-56. We are working with Robart to find the quickest and best way to correct any one who has the incorrect threaded cylinder.
Sorry for the inconveniences. I hope that all of you can enjoy the Corsair as much as I do and if you have any questions please ask. I will update on the status of the parts as I get more information on them.
Thanks
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Was in my local hobby shop and asked about ordering a Corsair, another guy said he knew the Houston Corsair that came apart in flight and said it was a wing dowel issue. I want one either way.....called Horizon to see how long the actual wait will be, I have wanted a large scale Corsair for some time. This is the one!
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Here's a video of the maiden flight of a H9 Corsair W/an FG84 for power. Looks like it flies well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQENh3BJNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQENh3BJNc
#683
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Here's the thread on RCG. A short clip of the engine running is on post #1. The maiden flight video is on post #105 but the sound isn't that good.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2071116
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2071116
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Would like to show my Corsair and show some of my changes. I installed a GT-80 in my Corsair. The spark plugs I use are 1/4-32 to keep everything inside the cowel. I modified the exhaust to exit at the scale location. The flaps use a single Spektrum A7040 anolog retract servo. This servo with its 180 degree travel, with the right length arm will lock up and down with no power load and have 1/2 flap adjustability. I have about 30 flights so far and it flys great.
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Hi everyone, just had my maiden today and all went well. I am running a evo 777 and I'm not happy with the prop. I am running a 24 X 10 2 blade. I was getting 5400 RPM on the ground and once in the air the engine seemed to unload resulting in slow flight.
If anyone is running the evo 777 radial could you let me know what prop sizes you are running, if anyone has any ideas I look forward to hearing them.
Cheers.
If anyone is running the evo 777 radial could you let me know what prop sizes you are running, if anyone has any ideas I look forward to hearing them.
Cheers.
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Hi everyone, just had my maiden today and all went well. I am running a evo 777 and I'm not happy with the prop. I am running a 24 X 10 2 blade. I was getting 5400 RPM on the ground and once in the air the engine seemed to unload resulting in slow flight.
If anyone is running the evo 777 radial could you let me know what prop sizes you are running, if anyone has any ideas I look forward to hearing them.
Cheers.
If anyone is running the evo 777 radial could you let me know what prop sizes you are running, if anyone has any ideas I look forward to hearing them.
Cheers.
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Hey guys I have been reading parts of this very long thread.
I was going to build a top flite gaint corair, got the kit factory rec robart mains and tail retracts and a Satio 300 twin that I will probly convert to gas with a convershion kit like I did my ASP 180 4c.
But I have been so busy I don't ever seeing me haveing time to build this kit.
So I have been looking at the opions of eather this ARF, the TopFlite or the ESM Gaint Corsair.
I have had the smaller ESM Corsair with a DLE55RA and Love the fiberglass work, I know it takes some building to get right.
So For those of you who spent the money on this bird was it worth it over the TF ARF?
WIll my TF Robart Retracts work in this plane?
Will the Saito 300 twin have good power?
Thanks for your time Mike
I was going to build a top flite gaint corair, got the kit factory rec robart mains and tail retracts and a Satio 300 twin that I will probly convert to gas with a convershion kit like I did my ASP 180 4c.
But I have been so busy I don't ever seeing me haveing time to build this kit.
So I have been looking at the opions of eather this ARF, the TopFlite or the ESM Gaint Corsair.
I have had the smaller ESM Corsair with a DLE55RA and Love the fiberglass work, I know it takes some building to get right.
So For those of you who spent the money on this bird was it worth it over the TF ARF?
WIll my TF Robart Retracts work in this plane?
Will the Saito 300 twin have good power?
Thanks for your time Mike
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Hey guys I have been reading parts of this very long thread.
I was going to build a top flite gaint corair, got the kit factory rec robart mains and tail retracts and a Satio 300 twin that I will probly convert to gas with a convershion kit like I did my ASP 180 4c.
But I have been so busy I don't ever seeing me haveing time to build this kit.
So I have been looking at the opions of eather this ARF, the TopFlite or the ESM Gaint Corsair.
I have had the smaller ESM Corsair with a DLE55RA and Love the fiberglass work, I know it takes some building to get right.
So For those of you who spent the money on this bird was it worth it over the TF ARF?
WIll my TF Robart Retracts work in this plane?
Will the Saito 300 twin have good power?
Thanks for your time Mike
I was going to build a top flite gaint corair, got the kit factory rec robart mains and tail retracts and a Satio 300 twin that I will probly convert to gas with a convershion kit like I did my ASP 180 4c.
But I have been so busy I don't ever seeing me haveing time to build this kit.
So I have been looking at the opions of eather this ARF, the TopFlite or the ESM Gaint Corsair.
I have had the smaller ESM Corsair with a DLE55RA and Love the fiberglass work, I know it takes some building to get right.
So For those of you who spent the money on this bird was it worth it over the TF ARF?
WIll my TF Robart Retracts work in this plane?
Will the Saito 300 twin have good power?
Thanks for your time Mike
I think the 300 will have good power, but marginal. If you convert to gas you lose about 15% HP. That is why Saito increases the displacement to 57cc on the gas version. You might want to stick to the 8# lighter TF Corsair.
Converting to CDI W/glow fuel will give you a slight power boost & significant boost fuel economy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdmLu13UJzs
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Well I was working on my Corsair tonight playing with the sequencer and all the gear doors. Next thing I know the electric Robart gear made a funny noise and quit moving. The little servo is still making noise but the screw actuator does not turn which in turn makes the gear not move. Seams like one setback after another with this thing. Now I need to contact Robart tomorrow and wait for that to be fixed.
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The Robart 148's for the TFGS Corsair are too small for the H9 60cc Corsair. The Robart 150Z's are perfect.
I have a TFGS Corsair, a Ziroli Corsair, (3) Byron's Corsairs, and the H9 Corsair.
In my opinion the Byron' was the best scale and flying Corsair for 20 years. It's just hard to get now.
The TFGS Corsair was the least scale of all of them and more fragile.
The H9-60cc Corsair is the best scale ARF package available today!
I have a FG-57 ready for mine!
I have a TFGS Corsair, a Ziroli Corsair, (3) Byron's Corsairs, and the H9 Corsair.
In my opinion the Byron' was the best scale and flying Corsair for 20 years. It's just hard to get now.
The TFGS Corsair was the least scale of all of them and more fragile.
The H9-60cc Corsair is the best scale ARF package available today!
I have a FG-57 ready for mine!
Hey guys I have been reading parts of this very long thread.
I was going to build a top flite gaint corair, got the kit factory rec robart mains and tail retracts and a Satio 300 twin that I will probly convert to gas with a convershion kit like I did my ASP 180 4c.
But I have been so busy I don't ever seeing me haveing time to build this kit.
So I have been looking at the opions of eather this ARF, the TopFlite or the ESM Gaint Corsair.
I have had the smaller ESM Corsair with a DLE55RA and Love the fiberglass work, I know it takes some building to get right.
So For those of you who spent the money on this bird was it worth it over the TF ARF?
WIll my TF Robart Retracts work in this plane?
Will the Saito 300 twin have good power?
Thanks for your time Mike
I was going to build a top flite gaint corair, got the kit factory rec robart mains and tail retracts and a Satio 300 twin that I will probly convert to gas with a convershion kit like I did my ASP 180 4c.
But I have been so busy I don't ever seeing me haveing time to build this kit.
So I have been looking at the opions of eather this ARF, the TopFlite or the ESM Gaint Corsair.
I have had the smaller ESM Corsair with a DLE55RA and Love the fiberglass work, I know it takes some building to get right.
So For those of you who spent the money on this bird was it worth it over the TF ARF?
WIll my TF Robart Retracts work in this plane?
Will the Saito 300 twin have good power?
Thanks for your time Mike
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Sorry about you retract actuators. This happened to me too and I know how frustrating it is. The little gear train that drives the jack screw stripped on mine. Hopefully Robart will sort them out for you and hopefully relise that these actuators need more work. In saying that the retract themselves are pretty good. Maybe LADO will make an actuator for them.
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Well I was working on my Corsair tonight playing with the sequencer and all the gear doors. Next thing I know the electric Robart gear made a funny noise and quit moving. The little servo is still making noise but the screw actuator does not turn which in turn makes the gear not move. Seams like one setback after another with this thing. Now I need to contact Robart tomorrow and wait for that to be fixed.
Sorry to say,but exactly that happened to me,only cycled them about 10 cycles !!! I sent an e-mail to "Mitch" at Down and Locked ( who supply the units to Robart ).Very quick reply from him and have now sent the faulty unit back to him in the US for repair. ( cost about $80 from the UK,will be a bit cheaper on the way back to me..I hope !!! ).
Robart will only fwd on your unit to D & L..........got straight to Mitch
Well worth sending him an e-mail about this issue.............perhaps there is a common fault within the drive motor units..?
I have also ordered a "spare" unit.....just in case the other unit fails :-( !!!
Kind regards..............Nick (UK).
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Hi.
LADO are pretty good,already have a couple of Robart sets converted with their actuators................maybe should have gone that route with these Robarts for the Corsair..?.
Have you sent an e-mail to D & L..? Anybody else had this problem..?
For what these units cost.............should be 100% perfect......ROBART TAKE NOTE !!!!
I'm pretty sure that "Mitch" at D & L WILL get things sorted..................
Kind regards...................Nick (UK)
LADO are pretty good,already have a couple of Robart sets converted with their actuators................maybe should have gone that route with these Robarts for the Corsair..?.
Have you sent an e-mail to D & L..? Anybody else had this problem..?
For what these units cost.............should be 100% perfect......ROBART TAKE NOTE !!!!
I'm pretty sure that "Mitch" at D & L WILL get things sorted..................
Kind regards...................Nick (UK)
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Well I did know this isn't just a problem with mine alone. I called Robart today and they said to "send them back and we will fix them and test them for you". My question is, mine worked maybe 30 cycles, what if next time the 31st cycle is while I'm in the air??? A damn near $4000 aircraft that weighs 35 pounds is not going to take nicely to landing with no wheels!!!!! I got a call into D&L to Mitch as well after seeing these post, I'm sure he will return my call during business hours. I'm sure they will get replaced or fixed by someone under the warrantee due to they are only a month old. That is not going to fix my concerns every time I land wondering if the gear is going to come down. For damn near $600 for retracts you would think they were bulletproof.
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Well I did know this isn't just a problem with mine alone. I called Robart today and they said to "send them back and we will fix them and test them for you". My question is, mine worked maybe 30 cycles, what if next time the 31st cycle is while I'm in the air??? A damn near $4000 aircraft that weighs 35 pounds is not going to take nicely to landing with no wheels!!!!! I got a call into D&L to Mitch as well after seeing these post, I'm sure he will return my call during business hours. I'm sure they will get replaced or fixed by someone under the warrantee due to they are only a month old. That is not going to fix my concerns every time I land wondering if the gear is going to come down. For damn near $600 for retracts you would think they were bulletproof.
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