Thunderbolt47

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Roger that.

spitfire66

I was reading this thread a while ago and I thought there was a guy that mounted a DLE 55 with a soft mount and he ended up having his j'tec muffler come apart. Others chimed in and said you were not supposed to soft mount this engine as the vibration is isolated to the engine and causes issues. I completely agree that a soft mount sounds like the best way to go to save the plane, but I also don't want to damage the engine/muffler. I am not sure which way is best, but I do have plenty of time to decide. Have others used a soft mount with the jtec in-cowl p-51 muffler?

CRJDriver

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My Zenoah G45 has been soft mounted in my P-51 now for 6 years. I am using the JTEC muffler as well. No issues whatsoever.

Leroy Gardner

Spitfire if you follow the mounting instructions that came with the plane you'll be glad you did. Many of the guys don't have a clue about what soft mounts actually do. It's kinda like what would happen if your car engine, frig. compressor, furnace fan motorcycle and so on would sound like with out soft mounts and thats not to mention the distructive forces of vibration and high frequency modulation does to raido, servos, screws and glue joints,not to mention the engine mount itself. I'll show a well mounted engine and mount as an example, Leroy

I'll try later there is a server error and can't up load pictures.

spitfire66

I thought that it would be best to soft mount, and like your work. (crj driver) 6+ years without an issue! That's good enough for me! Leroy, nice work. That looks so well done.

spitfire66

I went to Home Depot and Lowes today to look at paint for the mustang later on down the road and had no luck. I was looking for Behr aluminum mettalic paint, but they said they haven't had it in 4 years or so. Same with Lowes. The only thing they have is Krylon spray paint. I found this Martha Stewart specialty paint that was called polished silver. It's $5.50 for 10 fluid ounces. I have no idea how much paint it will take, but I figured the quantity/cost to come up with a gallon and that would be about 13 jars of it. That would be around $70 for paint alone. What are other people using? I went to the hobby store and found testors sells spraypaint, but I was wanting to use an spraygun to get an even coat with no lines and also fuel proof.

CRJDriver

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Use Krylon Bright Silver. You can get it for 3 bucks a can at Wal Mart. This worked really well for my Jug. Just be sure to rub it down with 0000 steel wool. The result is a very convincing metal finish. It is not letting me post pictures right now. I'll try later.

crashproof

I use the Rustoleum Rattle can Aluminum, after Drying it buffs out nice with 0000 steel wool. Kevin.

Leroy Gardner

I picked up samples of paint to test for apperance and compability. I don't know how far you are willing to go in price but automotive paint will beat out in comparison to any rattle can paint out there. Remember, you get what you pay for. It will cost me around $150.00 to paint my mustang. I never spent all the time I have in my build Just to put a crappy paint job on it.. My paint will be base coat clear coat and it is fuel proof. Leroy

Leroy Gardner

It's not fuel froof and if you clear coat it it will turn grey and without clear coat it just keeps dusting. I tested them all and got same results from all of them. Cheep is not the answer, we have guys around here doing that and after 6 or 10 flights they look like crap- which is what they put on their planes. To each his own and I'm not bashing any of you. What matters is your happy with it. Leroy

crashproof

I guess now all the rest of us have crappy paint jobs then. I will bet 75 percent of the Planes at Top gun this year were painted with House Latex outdoor paints. Why don't you take one of your birds down there next year and see how you fair with your 150.00 dollar paint job. I could care less what someone paints their plane with but for some reason you feel you are the only one who has the answer. You pushed your rivet detail all over the place with folks who have been doing much better for years, but at least I won't call any thing you got crappy I will leave that for you to do. Kevin.

fujiman

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i'm using chrome monocote and flat black monocote on mine

BobH

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http://www.alsacorp.com/

Try the killer chrome.. Several TG planes are painted with it.

Alu is really difficult to pull off in paint. The specialized automotive paints do the best job from what I've learned over the years. Or you can go with flite metal or similar. That works too.

spitfire66

Thanks everyone for the replies. I think I will try some of the krylon paints with/without clear coat, and then the "martha stewart" brand polished aluminum and see how they hold up. If the price gets over $100 I will spend $60 more and use the flite metal. I will do some testing this week. Thanks for the input.

The alsa corp stuff looks really nice, but too close in price to the flite metal for the whole kit. Thanks for the suggestion!

spitfire66

I found some a paint called chrome/aluminum that is used for propane tanks and fences. I'll buy some today and do some testing. My goal is a fuel proof paint that looks good (not top gun quality) and doesn't flake or rub off. Top Gun quality would be nice, but this is my first giant plane and I'm looking to gain quality experience while saving some money in the process. Some day money will be no object right?





http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...Id=61346231373

Duplicator41

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Ditzler automotive paints makes a silver that is called "non-smudge aluminum" it works well and holds up for a good period of time.

Cheers,

Leroy Gardner

Kevin your like too many guys that post on RCU, yuo don't read the other posts and threads. What paints I was referring to are the metalized chrome, chrome aluminum, bright silvers and so on and what I said about them is true. The planes with it on them from my area do look like crap and none of the guys have said that they would ever make that mistake again and I never said that about other colors of aerosol paints. Many are clear coatable for fuel proofing indluding laytex. Truth is you can't get a higher quality paint than automotive base coat clear coat produces. To get the results and color I want is not possible with aerosol spray paint and I would have perferred to have found something less expensive.

Glad you have seen my pannel lines and rivets. I did that thread to show that anyone can learn to do it even you and I never said it's the only way to do it. You should try reading that thread and you too may learn something. Leroy

fujiman

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leroy down boy, down!!!!!!!!! your drinking too much coffee i think!!!!!!!!! too much hostility!!!!!!! this thread is for the fun and not arguments!!!!!!

spitfire66

I used some grey primer and used some chrome aluminum paint today. I had the old p-51 that I started on and then though it wasn't good enough. Anyway I'm using that as my test subject for paint, and later to experiment with glassing. The picture is after 1 coat of paint. A minute ago I added coat #2. I think it looks awesome, but I had to brush it on as I don't have an airbrush. The problem with brushing is you can see the brush lines.

I am going to use a small spray gun that my dad recommended from harbor freight. He said he has used his a couple times and the one he has would work great. It says thinning is not recommended, but I figure I could do a very little bit if needed. There is a lot of metallic gunk in the bottom of the can that you have to really stir up well, and has raised my concern about clogging a gun. Maybe if I stir is up enough and use a coffe filter that would prevent issues? Well, if you can't tell I haven't done this kind of stuff before, but I am very eager to learn. If it wasn't for the brush lines I'd be really happy with the experiment so far!

Next I will be applying a clear coat to see if it gas proof and smear proof without changing the color and appearence. I'll keep you all posted. I am on my days off and would really like to get this figure out.

spitfire66

I value everyone's opinion. It helps me to hear everything and then draw my own conclusion. Please, no hostilities. I understand both of your arguments.

oconcj

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HI Guys

What I have found over the years is that, the Krylon paints get very brittle over time and you get spiderweb cracks all over. Auto paints seem fairly brittle also. I use to use lacquar a lot, but found that brittle. The paint I have used for a few years now is the Stits paint. Their paint is used on fullsize and is sold for modellers thru F and M products in Texas. They have a fillercoat for the fabric they use called Polyspray. It is silver and has aluminum particles in it. It dries semi flat and is fuel proof. I have had it on my P-51 for four years now. Looks very much like dull aluminum. The other thing is that it doesn't finger print or come off in your hands. The paint is a one paint process and dries very fast. Similar to dope or lacquar. Just another option

Leroy Gardner

fugiman your right, I do drink too much coffee. I was only responding to a snide reply for describeing a certain paint as crap should of said poor quality which is the same thing.

My responce was not hostile but was truthful. When context of a remark is blown that far out of perportion than it needs to be addressed to get it right. I don't come here to ruffel feathers, I come here to help or learn.

Sorry, it could have been said in a different way and still ment the same thing. Leroy

fujiman

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i think we all have done that before. it's big of you to admit it. so now we can go on with the thread!!!!!

spitfire66

I've been looking for a good clearcoat that is resistent to gasoline. After rereading Tom Pierce's blog I found he used nelson's hobby clear for a gasoline proof clearcoat. I am going to use that. If you need information, like myself and are really a beginner go go tompierce.net It's great information.

bucho

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Whois knows ir a masterairscrew classic 20 x 10 can work indica a del 55 ??? con this mustang.