P-38 Lightning Brotherhood
#351
Thanks all for your kind comments. It was amazing the large quantities of the aircraft produced to support the war effort. Reading that thread discussion and document exhibits shown, due to critical needs, improvements sometimes got delayed to not hinder production quantities needed. I guess it was the choice of either have something that at least allowed one to go after the enemy and protect assets en-route, or not have the capability to at least have a fighting chance. Given that most of our manufacturing if not all of it has gone overseas, I'm wondering if the US would ever be able to fight a major conflict, let alone defend itself if the balloon went up. What I find disconcerting is that it seems even the aircraft at Davis Monthan AFB storage yard are being dismantled, include some late model ones. The purpose of those stored aircraft was to provide the additional fleets needed until manufacturing production could ramp up on current models. As it is, we no long seem to have the manufacturing capability here in US any more.
Here is an interesting video link from that forum on pilot bail out requirements:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7jTdzfPUGA
Here is an interesting video link from that forum on pilot bail out requirements:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7jTdzfPUGA
#352
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Hi Mike
I just took a look at the link for the scorpion motors , that's just about half price. It is hard to turn down a good deal so 2 of them are on the way. I will run some test on them and just may swap out the Rimfire 1.20's.
I think your on the right track with the placement of your bats up front in the booms. My Nitro needed everything I could get up front. With all the mods I did on this bird made her very tail heavy. I rounded the bottoms of the booms and pod per Gary's mods. Also installed Robart retracts with electric conversion. Edit. I forgot to mention. The amount of additional weight was 20 oz's all the way up in the nose.
Dan
I just took a look at the link for the scorpion motors , that's just about half price. It is hard to turn down a good deal so 2 of them are on the way. I will run some test on them and just may swap out the Rimfire 1.20's.
I think your on the right track with the placement of your bats up front in the booms. My Nitro needed everything I could get up front. With all the mods I did on this bird made her very tail heavy. I rounded the bottoms of the booms and pod per Gary's mods. Also installed Robart retracts with electric conversion. Edit. I forgot to mention. The amount of additional weight was 20 oz's all the way up in the nose.
Dan
Got to love a good half price sale!
It's a small motor, hard to believe the numbers when you look at, but it has good reviews, and prop data...we shall see.
Started working the mods on the NP model, just posted some pictures on Ram's thread. Man I really wish they had done a few thing differently form a scale standpoint. I wouldn't think it would have cost more to manufacture more scale like canopy and cowls, but as it is 90" and weighs practically nothing, so it should be fun. Won't notice that stuff when its zipping by anyways...LOL. I do think I am going to mod the verticals to make them the right size and shape.....will notice that
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Welcome to the brotherhood!
Bob Paris you are # 51
38lightning you are #52
Chris Nicastro your are #53
Chris, glad its warming up there, winter refuses to leave here. Hope you'll continue the build thread!
I'm really thinking the DLE35's are the perfect engines for the YA-38, and am looking forward to watching the build and hearing how it flys (hopefully a video!)
Got word back that I can no longer edit the membership list in post two, so will just update as we go along...
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Bob Paris you are # 51
38lightning you are #52
Chris Nicastro your are #53
Chris, glad its warming up there, winter refuses to leave here. Hope you'll continue the build thread!
I'm really thinking the DLE35's are the perfect engines for the YA-38, and am looking forward to watching the build and hearing how it flys (hopefully a video!)
Got word back that I can no longer edit the membership list in post two, so will just update as we go along...
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Thanks, yes were really looking forward to flight soon.
Sit-rep: the wings are primed with Upol auto primer from a sray can, filled then sanded smooth. Next step is to fit the servo covers better and finish them with servos. Im going to tape and prime for panel lines so I will share pics from that point on.
I shopped for paint and settled on PPG Omni S125 Medium Aluminum auto paint and Im going to mix a semi flat catalyzed clear that will go over the painted graphics.
Otherwise just getting up to speed again from hibernation. I agree those DLE's are going to be perfect for this plane. Were getting another set of spinners for flying 3 blade props so we'll fly this set on 2 blades for now just to get time on the engines. We have about an hour on them just at rich idle with some clearing out revs. Both ran w/o a sputter for an hour right out of the box. Im pleased with them but still very cautious going forward.
Sit-rep: the wings are primed with Upol auto primer from a sray can, filled then sanded smooth. Next step is to fit the servo covers better and finish them with servos. Im going to tape and prime for panel lines so I will share pics from that point on.
I shopped for paint and settled on PPG Omni S125 Medium Aluminum auto paint and Im going to mix a semi flat catalyzed clear that will go over the painted graphics.
Otherwise just getting up to speed again from hibernation. I agree those DLE's are going to be perfect for this plane. Were getting another set of spinners for flying 3 blade props so we'll fly this set on 2 blades for now just to get time on the engines. We have about an hour on them just at rich idle with some clearing out revs. Both ran w/o a sputter for an hour right out of the box. Im pleased with them but still very cautious going forward.
#356
Hi Dan
Got to love a good half price sale!
It's a small motor, hard to believe the numbers when you look at, but it has good reviews, and prop data...we shall see.
Started working the mods on the NP model, just posted some pictures on Ram's thread. Man I really wish they had done a few thing differently form a scale standpoint. I wouldn't think it would have cost more to manufacture more scale like canopy and cowls, but as it is 90" and weighs practically nothing, so it should be fun. Won't notice that stuff when its zipping by anyways...LOL. I do think I am going to mod the verticals to make them the right size and shape.....will notice that
Got to love a good half price sale!
It's a small motor, hard to believe the numbers when you look at, but it has good reviews, and prop data...we shall see.
Started working the mods on the NP model, just posted some pictures on Ram's thread. Man I really wish they had done a few thing differently form a scale standpoint. I wouldn't think it would have cost more to manufacture more scale like canopy and cowls, but as it is 90" and weighs practically nothing, so it should be fun. Won't notice that stuff when its zipping by anyways...LOL. I do think I am going to mod the verticals to make them the right size and shape.....will notice that
I am anxiously waiting to see what mods you do on the verticals.
Dan
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I made a quick cardboard template for the NP vertical tonight. The stock ones aren't off that much, but I think a couple new ones will really help improve the side profile. Going to pull the covering off to see how easy it would be to mod vs just make a couple new ones.
Hope to get started on the nose gear tomorrow
BTW, the cardboard one moved a little before I got the pix, its not quite straight...lol
Hope to get started on the nose gear tomorrow
BTW, the cardboard one moved a little before I got the pix, its not quite straight...lol
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Yes thats begun already. The center fuse has all of the radio installed as well as the retracts so its basically operational. We ran the engines together in the airframe for about an hour. So a little more time and tuning and we have to run them with the cowls and check temps. I have to be absolutely comfortable with these engines.
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Yes thats begun already. The center fuse has all of the radio installed as well as the retracts so its basically operational. We ran the engines together in the airframe for about an hour. So a little more time and tuning and we have to run them with the cowls and check temps. I have to be absolutely comfortable with these engines.
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Posted a little more progress of mods on NP model on the other thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/twin...g-more-41.html
Going to make some inexpensive wheel covers. Used the Yellow wheels, and Robart scans, but unhappy with the results. I have been looking for a picture of the prototype's main wheel, but it has to be straight on as I do not know if I have software to correct this, but I do know I don't know how to do it.
Does anyone have a picture of main wheel looking straight on, of any of our computer savvy brothers want to adjust this picture so it symmetrical
Thanks
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/twin...g-more-41.html
Going to make some inexpensive wheel covers. Used the Yellow wheels, and Robart scans, but unhappy with the results. I have been looking for a picture of the prototype's main wheel, but it has to be straight on as I do not know if I have software to correct this, but I do know I don't know how to do it.
Does anyone have a picture of main wheel looking straight on, of any of our computer savvy brothers want to adjust this picture so it symmetrical
Thanks
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Some of my favorite videos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS6Xd8xbd6A - turn up the sound on this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7NADTfBwJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKiQ06z7_g
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS6Xd8xbd6A - turn up the sound on this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7NADTfBwJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKiQ06z7_g
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Some of my favorite videos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS6Xd8xbd6A - turn up the sound on this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7NADTfBwJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKiQ06z7_g
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS6Xd8xbd6A - turn up the sound on this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7NADTfBwJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKiQ06z7_g
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Hadn't seen the first two videos, very cool. Thanks for sharing
Chad
I was going to PM you about rivet and zeus fastener sheets you offer. Would you mind sharing some details/pictures of some of the products you offer here?
Thanks
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Here are the rivets on my Hellcat fuselage. In this case white vinyl was used instead of chrome as I intended to use a base coat of silver paint which provided for the weathering process.
And the Hellcat fuselage after painting.
Here is the vinyl combined with a drop of glue for button heads as used on my Midwest Harvard.
Here is a short video showing the basic process for application of the rivets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIOFFgviCdw
I would point out that it is also possible to use the strips to make the rivets with glue drops or primer as well. In such a case you would be using the strips with the holes in it as a mask for applying the glue or primer and discarding the rivets themselves.
For those wishing to add rivets over the top of a finished model I have a couple of different options. One is rivets cut from clear vinyl. The laser cutting process leaves a slightly darkened edge to the vinyl which simulates a rivet quite nicely. Here they are on a Monokote covered test panel.
As you can see they work great on light colors but tend to disappear as the colors get darker. (They do show up better in sun light however than in this picture.) My solution to this issue on a customer's Hangar 9 P-47 was simply to dry-brush the rivets with a light color of acrylic paint. The acrylic, being water based, is easy to remove should you get it somewhere you don't want it. The whole airframe was then given a flat clear coat to seal the paint as well as the rivets. A clear coat is probably not necessary on electric powered models but is definitely recommended for gas or glow just to seal the rivets against exhaust residue. Here's a couple of pictures of the Jug. The rivets are left raw on the white and yellow areas and are dry brushed on the green, black, and blue areas. Dry-brushing is a relatively simple process and does not take too long.
Another option for finished models is simply to apply colored vinyl to the model. In most cases my customer's have requested light and dark gray. The light gray is used on the darker colors and vice-versa for maximum contrast. Of course other colors are available and any color scheme can be accomodated. Sorry to say I don't have any pictures showing the colored vinyl rivets in action.
Lastly I can also provide riveting templates for those who are burning or scribing rivets using the brass tube method. These are cut from card stock and as with the vinyl can be custom made to any diameter and spacing necessary. Simply place the edge of the template against a panel line and rivet away.
I think that covers at least the basics. I'm always available to answer questions and appreciate the opportunity to share my wares.
Chad Veich
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Hay Guys,
I purchased a VQ P-38 white kit from a gentle man and when I opened the kit...it was already started and was damaged. The aft tail booms were cracked and I have two left and one right engine pods. I will not be building this kit and actually boxed it back into to two boxes and stored it in my attic. I would love to see it with some one that can use the parts or wants to put it into the air. It will take some work to fly, but no longer interested in the project. I'll part it out or ship, but I live in Hawaii...and shipping is not cheap. So, if you need parts and willing to pay shipping...the kit is free. I've a N.P. modified P-38 built and I'm waiting for ESM to come out with their new P-38...if they ever do it again. I just want to see this model placed where it will keep one flying.
Aloha,
Bobby of Maui
I purchased a VQ P-38 white kit from a gentle man and when I opened the kit...it was already started and was damaged. The aft tail booms were cracked and I have two left and one right engine pods. I will not be building this kit and actually boxed it back into to two boxes and stored it in my attic. I would love to see it with some one that can use the parts or wants to put it into the air. It will take some work to fly, but no longer interested in the project. I'll part it out or ship, but I live in Hawaii...and shipping is not cheap. So, if you need parts and willing to pay shipping...the kit is free. I've a N.P. modified P-38 built and I'm waiting for ESM to come out with their new P-38...if they ever do it again. I just want to see this model placed where it will keep one flying.
Aloha,
Bobby of Maui