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Old 06-07-2015, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rvander
Well finally test flew my yellow aircraft p38. Awesome.. Dle35RA...flew like a baby!!!! Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U7_6sceXyc

Looks great, well done!


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Send it this way, I'll build it for you. I wanted to see what you did with your sound system. Are the gear in that picture what it comes with it?? I was originally thinking the Florida builder just set those in place for the picture, now I'm wondering if that's what it actually comes with??

Really none of my business, but I would think Swordsn should at least have first right of refusal....
Old 06-07-2015, 12:47 PM
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Thanks so much Ragtop. I am probably going to try and sell it. It's divinity.

And yes Swordsn (Nelson) got in touch with me and had first rights. He is knee deep in another acquisition and sadly can't take it.
Old 06-10-2015, 04:56 AM
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Yes,I bought a B25 The day before the P38 came on line and had to pass it up.Been looking for a P38 for 2 years.Go figure.
Old 06-11-2015, 07:55 PM
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Tuchadwick59,
Is the model still for sale? I didn't see it in the classified. I'm very close to you so I could pick it up easily. LMK or PM please. I have a few questions.

Thanks,
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Old 06-15-2015, 05:49 PM
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Received nomenclature decals from France as promised. They are 1/48 scale, and my scanner only does 600DPI, so the scans are a little hard to read. Between the nomenclature sheet, and the placement guide, I think its enough to figure out where things go. Hope some of you guys find these useful

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Old 06-15-2015, 08:30 PM
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Cool! Thanks for the graphics info.



Second maiden today, now in paint.
So! Please take it from me; do not build fly then take apart paint and then re-assemble and fly a plane, its a long road and it sucks!!! Causes plenty of issues with paint and finish. I knew this but I didnt want to risk a fully finished plane like this one. Next time, just finish it, fly it, what happens, happens.

Flew today with the new engine updated to clockwise rotation. Its a trip to start, pilots right engine turns CCW and the left is CW. So flipping by hand means turning the props to the outside.
On the runway as power comes up it tracks very straight making it easy but this plane likes to head into the wind. Crosswind take offs means it will be sensitive and try to weathervane a bit.

I took it up and let it run. We had variable high winds but this plane handles the wind very well. I did learn it takes quite a bit of cross control with rudder and aileron. I played up high in the wind for a bit with rudder turns. Some zooming passes with the wind and into the wind and then a few rolls. I made a fast pass low then up at a 45 on power into the wind and it just climbed out very fast. So cool, roll over the top nice and slow.

Landing was easy too. One circuit gear down and into the wind and it slows way down quickly without flaps. It touched down with a little flare no dramas. The struts with their long travel are awesome. Love how the plane settles.

Im very pleased with how its come together.
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:32 PM
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PS the paint is still a work in progress.
Old 06-16-2015, 04:05 AM
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Looks good. Glad to hear second flight went well!
Old 06-16-2015, 09:01 PM
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Congrats!

P.S. Warbirds are never done anyway, even when you say your done something will dig at you until you modify it.

The older mine get the better the compliments on weathering
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Congrats!

P.S. Warbirds are never done anyway, even when you say your done something will dig at you until you modify it.

The older mine get the better the compliments on weathering
Old 06-21-2015, 08:20 PM
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3rd, 4th and 5th flights done today.
We were scheduled to appear at the NW Scale Masters Qualifier just for fun to show the plane to our club buddies. When I got there I was told your signed up, heres your packet and your flight plan is done, go fly your up at the end of the round!! What!?!

So I made a lunch time check flight then right into a scoring flight. The last two flights were the first times I ever used the flaps! The lunch flight was the first time I looped it!

Well it went well, I scored 90.75 on the first scored flight. The second landing I got a little behind it just before touching down and the left gear snapped the steel pin that joins the strut to the trunion. Luckily there wasn't any damage but a chipped prop. It slowed up faster than I expected.

Otherwise all went well and its settling into being more routine. We settled on a scheme too, Robin Olds Scatt II
Old 06-22-2015, 08:04 AM
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Awesome!

But remember to fly a 38 scale to Scat II you have to drop the tanks and let the engines starve out and score deadstick kills.
Old 06-22-2015, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Nicastro
3rd, 4th and 5th flights done today.
. We settled on a scheme too, Robin Olds Scatt II
Great choice. Callie already has this one ready to go!
Old 06-22-2015, 12:40 PM
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Good to hear Chris, but we need video!
Old 06-22-2015, 01:48 PM
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There's video! Waiting for a buddy from the club to get that to me
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So History Buffs, here is an interesting question about Olds P-38.
Which scheme is correct?
Some say the all bare metal invasion stripes scheme is correct. Some say the olive drab and invasion stripes scheme is correct. Still some others say the bare metal invasion stripe scheme with red rudders is correct.
I can see how the last version could be true since the 434th squadron had red rudders on their planes like P-51's, one of his other Scats.

Id like to see documentation of the bare metal version with stripes AND red rudders. I dont like the look of the big basic geometric shapes on the tails.

Then theres the color of the Scat II letters, red or yellow? Ive seen both.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:47 PM
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Here is a skin for a flight sim thats been so called researched by the author.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:54 PM
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For $100 this print shows the font in yellow...
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:18 AM
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Seems to be a tough one, not a lot of photos. I read he had three P-38s, and one article said he had 4. Seems to be some pictures of Scat IV being a Mustang, so not too sure about that. Only flew Lightnings for a few months before switching to Mustangs

It seems the first Scat was likely OD with strips and red rudders, but lots of artist renderings show that as Scat II. Actual picture of Scat II shows bare metal, but just shows the nose. Seems to be a lot of artist renderings, and decals. The artists must have gotten guidance from somewhere. Must be a few pictures out there, just a little hard to find.

Of coarse, if you end up not finding any proof either way, pick the one you like, and no one can prove you wrong Can also search for pictures of planes in same squadron. Might help with tail markings and strips. Little Friends is a pretty good site http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/479thfg.php

Here is some interesting reading http://www.crazyhorseap.be/Mustangs/...RobinOlds1.htm

http://www.amazon.com/479th-Fighter-.../dp/1846034205

Good luck

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Old 06-23-2015, 07:34 AM
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That photo of him standing next to the bare metal nose was the one sited by the guy who created the sim skin I posted above.
I also found a photo of one of the Scat 38's destroyed in an accident after take off flown by another pilot.

Thanks for the links I'll check it out

update: according to Little Friends site Olds had 3 P-38's and 3 Mustangs but the nose art skipped past Scat 4. So theres Scat 1,2,3,5,6,7.
Thats interesting, wonder why that is?


Pretty sweet squadron patch, apparently a beer copied it for their label too.
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Originally Posted by Chris Nicastro
Hi Chris!
I have an engineering type question. I'm still not understanding the relationship between Kv, volts, rpm and thrust.

I get Kv being rpm per volt.

For my question, let's use Eflite 90/325's. Assuming correctly sized props, which will give more power/thrust:
8s with a smaller prop/higher rpm or 6s and a larger prop/lower rpm? Or am I still completely off the trail?

Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by Chris Nicastro


So History Buffs, here is an interesting question about Olds P-38.
Which scheme is correct?
Some say the all bare metal invasion stripes scheme is correct. Some say the olive drab and invasion stripes scheme is correct. Still some others say the bare metal invasion stripe scheme with red rudders is correct.
I can see how the last version could be true since the 434th squadron had red rudders on their planes like P-51's, one of his other Scats.

Id like to see documentation of the bare metal version with stripes AND red rudders. I dont like the look of the big basic geometric shapes on the tails.

Then theres the color of the Scat II letters, red or yellow? Ive seen both.



Some good info on Robin as well as his paint schemes for both the Lightning and Mustang here: http://www.crazyhorseap.be/Mustangs/...VII/PH-VDF.htm

I'm sorry 70... I missed this in your post!

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Originally Posted by simple
Awesome!

But remember to fly a 38 scale to Scat II you have to drop the tanks and let the engines starve out and score deadstick kills.

Now THAT would be the ultimate in scale accuracy!
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Originally Posted by 70 ragtop
It seems the first Scat was likely OD with strips and red rudders, but lots of artist renderings show that as Scat II. Actual picture of Scat II shows bare metal, but just shows the nose. Seems to be a lot of artist renderings, and decals. The artists must have gotten guidance from somewhere. Must be a few pictures out there, just a little hard to find.


Prior to the photo above, I'd only seen Scat II in OD.

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