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Old 07-24-2014, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BobH
That pilot looks to be a Blue Box RAF Pilot. They haven't made them for some time although they do make other RAF Pilots.
Sometimes you can find one on Ebay but they don't come cheap.

BobH, yeah that's the one. I was lucky to pick one up a couple of years ago at a decent price. Last one I saw on Ebay was starting at $155.00 US.
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Hi, I have an Axi 5325/24 which is a 232rmp/v on 10s. Can anyone tell me if this would be suitable for this Spitfire? The motor weighs 575g.
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I am running a HackerA60-14L on 10s in mine, which is 192 kv. I use an APC 20x11E and I get lots of thrust, enough speed for scale but not a rocket ship. So I would guess your AXI would do fine. It's lighter than my Hacker, so you will need lots of weight for the CoG.
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Love this shot we got of mine last week....
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:32 AM
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"I am running a HackerA60-14L on 10s in mine, which is 192 kv. I use an APC 20x11E and I get lots of thrust, enough speed for scale but not a rocket ship. So I would guess your AXI would do fine. It's lighter than my Hacker, so you will need lots of weight for the CoG."

I had that exact setup on my ESM FW. We replaced it with a DLE 35RA for gas simplicity but that Hacker is a powerhouse. Anybody else interested in that setup, just give me a shout. I'd sell it for a reasonable amount.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:38 PM
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Thanks, Rincewind.

Does anyone use braking from the speed controller on their setup? I guess no brake could be used like an i.c. version but use flaps to slow her down? Can you land this one without flaps?
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For fixed wing power planes I use NO BRAKE on the ESC, I only use ESC BRAKE ON for powered gliders where a windmilling prop would create undo drag.

Why would you want to land w/o flaps? It lands so well with them.

Most folks that comment on how my Spitfire lands, can't believe it when they pick it up and see how heavy it is. Even forced into a stall up high, it will drop a wing but its not anything violent.
Old 09-03-2014, 11:52 PM
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As Barracuda says, I believe a windmilling prop helps to slow a fixed wing plane down, so, no, I don't use a brake on the ESC.
Yes , you can land it without using flaps, but it takes a loooong time to slow down. I much prefer to use flaps when landing. It will fly remarkably slowly for it's weight but that does not mean it lands at walking pace.
Old 09-04-2014, 05:51 AM
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@ Scott Douglas , did jou already fly the spitfire with your laser 180?

Thinking of buying the same combo...
Have already a laser 70 and a laser 100 in my fleet (great engines)!

So i was just wondering

Regards from holland
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Thanks Barracudahockey and Rincewind,
I asked about the flaps because, although I have flown a number of 3d and aerobatic models( some 160 size) and the odd 40- 50 size semi scale models, I never flown a model with flaps! Thought maybe I could get a feel of the plane first before trying them? The fact that the Axi and speed controller will do, alongside the fact that i have a 10s 45c pack means it is increasingly hard to resist this Spit.
I also have several 10s 25c packs; would these be up to the job do you think?
Many thanks for the replies.
Old 09-04-2014, 11:22 AM
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My advice, is take it up high and see how it behaves.

If i were helping you in person I'd set the flaps up on a 3 position switch, dial in the compensation called for in the manual and talk you through an approach and landing using them.

On the beginning of your down wind leg get the gear down and flaps out. Make a gentle descending turn to line up on center line. Be prepared to add a little power to control your descent rate (glide slope) and fly the plane till the mains are on the runway, chop the throttle to idle and dont try to turn till the tail comes down, when it does, get on the up elevator and as soon as you think of it get the flaps up. if you're lucky it won't nose over

This approach minimizes doing any configuration changes on final so you can concentrate on your approach. This thing lands slower than people give it credit for but again, try up high, into the wind with the flaps AND wheels down (full dirty landing configuration) and get a feel for it.
Old 09-08-2014, 06:48 AM
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Predman, I am not sure, but I didn't see any picture of how you mounted the throttle servo for a DLE install. I saw someone else's idea of the flex cable but I would like to see more pictures of your install.
Old 09-08-2014, 04:51 PM
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For those of you with the DLE 35, or any 30-35cc gas motor, how much weight are you adding to the motorbox to achieve the proper CG? I'm at 2 pounds and it still seems very tail heavy when balancing by the book.
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For the review model we were a little north of 3 pounds to get it to the factory CG with the lead mounted to the top of the motorbox by pouring a slab.

After flying it we cut off lead a little at a time to get to what I felt was a comfortable CG flight wise and it ended up loosing a little over a pound and a half. I dont know where the CG sits now, other than when you roll it over on a 45 degree up line the nose gracefully arches back towards earth and inverted takes some pressure to hold but not half the elevator.

So its still, aerodynamically speaking, just slightly nose heavy, but it flys nicely and lands lightly.
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That's what I was hoping for, the layout of the wing lead me to believe that the CG would be further back than shown in the manual. I'm balanced at about 5 1/4 now, planning on flying it today or tomorrow, so we'll see if that CG is correct!
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I think the manual spec is either very conservative, or based on a prototype.
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I did some digging.

The original way we flew it, and the specs for the article were
20 lbs 12 oz, WL 41.04 oz/sq ft WCL 14.4

Hacking the lead off and really having some time to play with it, we are at 18 lbs 14 oz. WL 37.08 oz/sq ft, WCL 13.0

The WCL is probably the most dramatic difference in the way it flys because with the flaps setup right it really floats right on in.
Old 09-09-2014, 12:05 PM
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Hi guys have FG30b in mine and I initially balanced at 4 3/4 but I reduced it to 4 1/2 in. Book says 4 1/2---5 in. Took a bit more out and it felt slightly lively on elevator ( not bad) but preferred the 4 1/2 inches. Balanced inverted, UC down, aeroplane level. Hope this helps.
mine flys great just gotta sort cooling out on engine as after 5 mins starts to get a bit hot.
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Here is a question for all you petrol pilots,
Im living in holland want to buy the big spitfire and a DLE35 re .
But i certainly have te install a silenced muffler because off the noise only 80 db is allowed.
The question is did other spitfire owners encountered this problem ?
And what was your solution?

Please answer because the buying of the spit depends on it , in holland the rule is no 80 decibell or below, No flying.....

Regards from holland

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Old 09-22-2014, 11:04 AM
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At what distance?

Over a hard or soft (grass) surface?

I have a hard time seeing a DLE35 at under 80db without a canister though.
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Hi barracuda

I fly from soft strip so thats grass.
measurements are 80 db @ 5m distance from airplane.
Is there even any room for a canister?
I did not have seen this plane in real life over here in holland...

Regards from holland

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Old 09-25-2014, 10:06 AM
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There's a thread on the Giant Flying Site that can't be linked here, titled Get your 30cc Warbirding on

Its got all of our build pics. Off hand, I would say, no but enterprising modelers have done all sorts of amazing things.
Old 09-25-2014, 10:40 AM
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This is not a link but it is the address. Heck, even the address is blocked!



Roger

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Old 09-25-2014, 10:57 AM
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shrug

Old rivalries die hard. Thats why I said it the way I did.
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Guys i just finished mine, all as per instructions with the evolution 33 in front, needs ALOT of nose weight...just out of curiosity how much did you need?


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