New Hangar 9 P-51 60cc
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I was going to install a DLE55ra but got a good deal on a side exhaust. I too wanted the exhaust tubes centered on the underside. The side exhaust fits inside the cowl and a slim wrap-around muffler does provide centered exhaust tubes under the plane, and no ugliness protruding from the side. The same type engine and exhaust is installed on my TF mustang which is smaller and has less room in the cowl area than does the HH mustang. The stock DLE 55 exhaust muffler and the wrap-around smoke muffler will stick out the side of the cowl.
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I have a DLE55 with a wrap around in another plane. It would work in the H9 with a slim pitts type wrap around like the other engines in the 50cc to 60cc range. I only know of Jtec selling them. I am going with the DA-60 but you could save money with a DLE55 and use a slim muffler to fit in the cowl. The DLE55 is no longer being manufactured I believe. Went to the DLE site and now the rear DLE55RA is the only one in that size. The side exhaust inventory is still out there.
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It seems to be very similar to both the Top Flite and AeroWorks mustang for cooling setup. The problem that I see most often with install in these airplanes is that folks cut a hole in the bottom of the cowl just in front of the firewall. Due to angle of the bottom of the mustang in this area, this hole can actually act as a scoop and push air into the cowling instead of letting it exit there. A small deflector "cowl flap" at the leading edge of this hole will create a low pressure area just aft of it and help to suck air out of the cowling. I had this setup on my TF Mustang and also on my H9 Mustang and the cooling seems to be working fine. Somebody around here has Pe Revier's posts and diagrams on cooling cowled engines which I tried to follow on this install.
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Here is what you need to evacuate your hot air properly. This is what PE Rievers mentioned in his cooling post. These create a low pressure that literally sucks the air out, instead of swirling up inside that hole. And yes, I have some, use them, and they work great.
http://www.redwingrc.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=344
Another issue to keep in mind with these side exhaust engines, with wrap around mufflers. You need to use a strap to "close the loop" of the mounting. There have been many threads on pilots not able to keep these mufflers secure. All of that unsupported weight vibrating will come loose, without the aid of a strap on the muffler end. Just something to keep in mind.
http://www.redwingrc.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=344
Another issue to keep in mind with these side exhaust engines, with wrap around mufflers. You need to use a strap to "close the loop" of the mounting. There have been many threads on pilots not able to keep these mufflers secure. All of that unsupported weight vibrating will come loose, without the aid of a strap on the muffler end. Just something to keep in mind.
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Finishing up the P-51and am wondering if anyone has picked the prop size they are going to use with an OS GT60? I am looking for the flying prop, not the break-in. Would also like the make of the propeller as well.
Thanks in advance.
David
Thanks in advance.
David
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I know these hanger 9 51's are hard to get.......Seems like Horizon is always out. I know where one is at (LHS) in Denver, Co., NIB..... Just in case anyone is interested.
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Continuing with the build. Here are some pics. A lot of wiring in this plane!
1. Receiver Mount, Rudder/Rear wheel steering servo
2. Rear wheel retract.
3. Elevator and Rudder servo horns. (I painted the servo horns to match the surfaces and blend in) I painted the ones on the ailerons/flaps too.
4/5. Dual Battery switches under the cockpit view and in the cockpit. (These are balance charge switches so I don't need to enter the battery bay to charge the LiFe batteries)
6. Ignition Switch next to the battery bay door and underneath. (This is also a balance charge switch)
1. Receiver Mount, Rudder/Rear wheel steering servo
2. Rear wheel retract.
3. Elevator and Rudder servo horns. (I painted the servo horns to match the surfaces and blend in) I painted the ones on the ailerons/flaps too.
4/5. Dual Battery switches under the cockpit view and in the cockpit. (These are balance charge switches so I don't need to enter the battery bay to charge the LiFe batteries)
6. Ignition Switch next to the battery bay door and underneath. (This is also a balance charge switch)
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I am using (2) ED-Nano 6.6v 2500mAH Heavy-Duty LiFe Batteries and 2 of their EDR-77N Ultra Switch Nano Balance-Charge switches for the Dual Power Receiver. For the Ignition I am using their standard 2500mAH Battery and the Standard EDC-77N Balance Charge Switch. There are 2 connections to the input side of the switch (Balance and Charge) to each battery. The ElectroDynamics website shows how it works. The switch handles the balancing. I am going to test it out as this is the first time I have used these batteries and their balance switch.
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Putting in a DA-60 required me to do the following:
Use all of the wood spacers they provide which provides a 25mm standoff. I put it together and it is about a 2mm gap to the spinner. A bit tight. I may add 1-2mm washers depending on how it looks.
The DA-60 Carb needles come facing up to the top of the fuselage when mounted. You can rotate this 180 degrees I believe but I don't want to be trying to get to them from underneath at the field. I created two 1/8 size holes in the top that I can get to very easily. You can see one of the tubes that will act as a guide to the needle valve in the picture. I will fit a very thin screw driver thru to get to the needles from the top. The tubes will be flush to the top of cowl. May even put some colored surface caps in them with the matching color to hide them even more.
Use all of the wood spacers they provide which provides a 25mm standoff. I put it together and it is about a 2mm gap to the spinner. A bit tight. I may add 1-2mm washers depending on how it looks.
The DA-60 Carb needles come facing up to the top of the fuselage when mounted. You can rotate this 180 degrees I believe but I don't want to be trying to get to them from underneath at the field. I created two 1/8 size holes in the top that I can get to very easily. You can see one of the tubes that will act as a guide to the needle valve in the picture. I will fit a very thin screw driver thru to get to the needles from the top. The tubes will be flush to the top of cowl. May even put some colored surface caps in them with the matching color to hide them even more.
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More build pics.
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees.
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees.
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More build pics.
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees.
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees.
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Elevator servo
Any one can help me in this plssss. This is my first time I'm building model and I start with H9 p51 60cc.
My concern is which servo to use in elevator if I don't want to use recommended servo A5060 which not available here at LHS. So I have set of hitech 5245MG mini servos and I'm not familiar with thos one. Kindly advice.
My concern is which servo to use in elevator if I don't want to use recommended servo A5060 which not available here at LHS. So I have set of hitech 5245MG mini servos and I'm not familiar with thos one. Kindly advice.
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"More build pics.
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees."
What spinner are you using and what size is it?
Thanks.
aehaas
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees."
What spinner are you using and what size is it?
Thanks.
aehaas
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Any one can help me in this plssss. This is my first time I'm building model and I start with H9 p51 60cc.
My concern is which servo to use in elevator if I don't want to use recommended servo A5060 which not available here at LHS. So I have set of hitech 5245MG mini servos and I'm not familiar with thos one. Kindly advice.
My concern is which servo to use in elevator if I don't want to use recommended servo A5060 which not available here at LHS. So I have set of hitech 5245MG mini servos and I'm not familiar with thos one. Kindly advice.
For the items you can't get at the LHS I would suggest going online to purchase. You can research the parts and specs from the manual online to. Go to the Spektrum website to get the specs on the servos they recommend in the manual. Then go to the Hitec site and see what they have. The A5060 is a HV servo with 87 oz-in (6.3 kg-cm) @ 6.0V; 118 oz-in (8.5 kg-cm) @ 8.4V for torque ratings. The 5245MG is a non HV Servo with 76 oz-in @6.0V. Slightly lower in spec but I think you can use this one for that service. Generally, I like to meet or exceed the specs. If you use some mix of HV and non HV servos you'll need to keep the power to the ~6V range. Hope this helps.
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"More build pics.
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees."
What spinner are you using and what size is it?
Thanks.
aehaas
1. DA-60/spinner/prop/cowl/muffler test mount. Jtec slimline muffler before and after I cut the exhaust tubes down by 1.5 inches.
2. Cow cut-out. I cut-out all the way between engine cooling fins and the muffler. I could have left the space in between in tact but I am a bit paranoid about over heating.
3. Engine Choke Servo mount
4. Top side fuse view of the carb needle holes that I made a few "plugs" to hide. There would be no way to get to the needles from the bottom with the muffler in the way even if I rotated the carb 180 degrees."
What spinner are you using and what size is it?
Thanks.
aehaas
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It seems to be very similar to both the Top Flite and AeroWorks mustang for cooling setup. The problem that I see most often with install in these airplanes is that folks cut a hole in the bottom of the cowl just in front of the firewall. Due to angle of the bottom of the mustang in this area, this hole can actually act as a scoop and push air into the cowling instead of letting it exit there. A small deflector "cowl flap" at the leading edge of this hole will create a low pressure area just aft of it and help to suck air out of the cowling. I had this setup on my TF Mustang and also on my H9 Mustang and the cooling seems to be working fine. Somebody around here has Pe Revier's posts and diagrams on cooling cowled engines which I tried to follow on this install.
KennyMac