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Old 06-03-2014, 12:05 PM
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Olive Drab,
Thanks for the suggestions, no worries tho, This RC pilot won't be using the Lipo's anymore for my applicatons. I appreciate you taking the time to post and give your thoughts and suggestions. That's exactly what these forums are all about.

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Old 06-03-2014, 01:31 PM
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Does voltage from the RX flow into the retract control unit even with the jumper removed?
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:35 PM
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Wombat, Good question, I'm not sure. removing the jumper obviously allows an aux battery switch. It's all according to the way they have the control box setup. But I would suspect not. you would not want to allow that much voltage feed back to the rx for sure.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:49 PM
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Col. Chuck,

Love the photo of you and the "SIX". My favorite airplane "as a mechanic".
49TH FIS, William Tell 78
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:14 PM
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Hi Neverlost1 The picture was taken at Selfridge AFB Michigan, 1964. Pressure Suit good to 60,000 Ft. and my Original "Dart 1" Pattern airplane. Russian TU-95 Bear intercepted over Iceland 1969. I was flying F-102s. Col. Chuck Winter
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:33 PM
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Hi Neverlost1 Hope you can open this youtube of my F7F flying at Castle Airport last Memorial weekend. The TWIN smoke trails are BEAUTIFUL. Col. Chuck Winter http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/WWW.youtube.com/watch?v=eh6YFDiUH61
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:43 AM
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OH BOY, that is gut wrenching!! Hate to hear that sort of thing!!!
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Old 06-04-2014, 02:01 AM
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Sad loss of a model, but look on the bright side. It could have happened at night, stored in your home.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:57 AM
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Yup Lifer............Lokking at it from that angle, I'm very thankful.

Col. Chuck............Good stuff...........great pics........thanks for sharing.

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Old 06-04-2014, 05:13 PM
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Hallo Captain Ron,

First of all I'm sorry for your loss.

LiPo batteries are long story. Yes they can be dangerous under some circumstances. At the moment I'm flying only electric powered aircraft (generally 110 size +) In the construction I have 1/5 Andersen Ta152.
I had once a problem with almost burning battery, but it was long time ago and it was completely my fault (KOKAM 3S forgot connected and loss the cell voltage). All charging is done with balancer connected and in maximum 1C. Once I received a 5S pack with one cell under voltage. I did not even tried to charge/formate it for safety reasons. And my Schulze Nextgen did not gave me an error. But I don't want to discuss what charger is better on not.

None of my batteries are charged in the plane - safety. Transport is done in lipo back only.
I would simply say with using lipos one has to have some safety on mind. You don't play with open fire above opened fuel as well
As well I remember that one fellow pilot lost 100 extra due to fire of 2 stroke engine - overflown and back fired to the fuse and caught fire. And till today he is flying gas planes.

I'm strong EP fan as you can see, but not everything is so single color. LiPos are ok if you handle them correctly. They don't burn from no reason.

Sorry again.
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:46 AM
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Thanks Vik,
Understand your message and well noted.
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Originally Posted by captainron View Post
Thanks for your condolences...........I lost the radio link because what I'm understanding, once the lipo went the Rx shut down once it sensed the surge on voltage from the lipo which was hooked up to the rx thourgh the switch on the retracts control box. ONce it didn't sense the extra voltage anymore, it came bck on line. By time I got back to the pits, and turned everything back on, obviously not the lipo, it was like a pc of toast (burnt) everything worked fine. got home and checked the gear on another Life and they worked fine also. GREAT STORY THO, SHOULD KEEP US GOING FOR AWHILE...........

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The Lipo is the one that caught fire,not the Life?
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Old 06-07-2014, 03:16 PM
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SWORDSN,
That is correct sir.........The Lipo was connected to the retracts through a switch, then a connection from the control box for the retracts was direct to the Rx. That's how we suspect the high voltage from the Lipo fed back to the rx and it locked out to protect itself. Just a theory.

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Old 06-07-2014, 04:19 PM
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Sorry for your loss, that really sucks!
The fire might have simply melted the other wiring causing RX to lose power as well. Doesn't really matter, an inflight fire usually isn't going to end well


Glad to hear no one got hurt, again sorry for your loss
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Old 06-07-2014, 05:38 PM
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Ragtop........thanks for your condolences also. the plane is way gone in some land fill now.........I'm attending Warbirds Over Denver this weekend and have good flights with my tried and true Top Flite P-47.All is good.

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