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Old 07-08-2014, 03:55 AM
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Default Need help with 4 stroke throttle linkage for a 65" Spitfire

I have this Spitfire of which I have no idea who the kit manufacturer was but it isn't relevant. I have to figure out a way to connect the throttle linkage. The fuel tank seems to be in the way if I move it to where I would like it. I prefer not to use a smaller tank. The engine is a 90 and the tank is a 10 oz.
Any Ideas?
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:49 PM
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Looks like a Pica Spitfire. I have one- great flying plane! Mine has a .91 four stroke, but the throttle arm is on the other side of the carb. That's a tough one there. Can you bend the throttle into a 'U' shape to come around and connect to the throttle arm? Or maybe you could build some kind of 'rocker arm' to connect between the pushrod and the arm? Like a see-saw with a pivot in the middle?
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Tower Hobbies has a Dubro 4-stroke linkage kit stock number LXD 939
that I have used for a Saito 150. Tried to post a picture of my setup but couldn,t
upload.
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Old 07-09-2014, 03:31 AM
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ho2zoo did you have to cut much to get it to fit the engine mounts? Do you have any pictures? Warbird lover thanks I might give that a try.
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ho2zoo I think you solved my problem. You got me thinking about the carb and if I could reverse it. Sure enough it can be. Now the throttle cable is where I can reach it. I will just move the servos. I am not sure if I did it or it came like that. I would love to know more about your Pica Spitfire. I was leaning towards mine being one. How much does yours weigh and where is your CG?
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Glad I could help. That Du-Bro linkage that warbird-lover showed is a neat solution too. Give me a day or two to get my Spitfire out and take some pics. Mine has an older OS Surpass II four-stroke ( the plane is about 18 years old! ). I think the engine dropped in pretty easy without too much trimming. I balanced it according to the plans and I think I still have them, so I'll have to dig them out to see where the CG is. I modified mine to have flaps and I was so glad I did. Made landings so much easier! I just cut away the sheeting on the bottom of the wing and hinged 2 thin plywood flaps to work on a single servo in the center. Used a semi-flexible cable pushrod in a plastic sleeve.

I'll be back with the pics.
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Here are some pics. I have to take the spinner, prop, and exhaust off to get into the cowl.

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The red wire going to the plug is a home-made glow driver. I had one dead-stick landing and that was enough! There is a cam cut into the throttle servo wheel that pushes on a switch to turn on the power to the glow plug.
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Thanks ho2zoo. What are you using for the bolts? Do you have blind nuts in there?
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According to my plans, the CG for the Pica Spitfire is 4 1/4 to 4 1/2 inches from the leading edge.
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Default How about the flaps?

The stock 65" Spitfire didn't come with flaps, but after talking to a couple guys I decided to modify it to have them.



The flap servo is in the center of the wing (the one on the right, the other is for the retracts). I mounted the aileron servos out in the wing to drive each aileron directly.
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:20 PM
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The mounts in mine were spaced for a 40 size engine. I had to cut away quit a bit of wood creating another problem for me. Whoever built it did a really nice job.
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The nylon wing bolts screw into a hardwood block that is epoxied into the fuselage. The holes are tapped- no blind nut is necessary (although I suppose it wouldn't hurt).
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It seems that it will have a light wing loading. Do you feel the flaps helped landings? I removed air retracts and I am replacing them with electrics.
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I meant the engine bolts.
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That's a good looking plane! I can't imagine trying to fly it with a .40! It was designed for a .60 (at least).

I have not weighed mine, but it is pretty light- maybe around 9 or 10 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Bonified Wingnut
I meant the engine bolts.
Oh, of course. Mine has wood screws about 3/4 inch I think. I screwed them in, then backed them out, put CA down the hole and quickly screwed them back in. I would check them every dozen flights or so to tighten them up, but it worked pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Bonified Wingnut
It seems that it will have a light wing loading. Do you feel the flaps helped landings? I removed air retracts and I am replacing them with electrics.
The flaps helped a lot. The first few flights I was afraid to use them (first plane with flaps) and I would have to land it pretty hot. But I tried them and found the landings a lot easier and more stable. But I understand that you may not want to cut into a wing that is already built.
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Wood screws? Awesome I can move forward. I already ca'd the holes. I am at 7 lbs 14 oz. with everything except RX and battery. Ishould be about 8 1/2 plus fuel.
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ho2zoo
you don't have the control throws for that do you? Thanks for all the help.
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Yup.
From the plans; Ailerons 1/2" up 3/8" down. Elevator 3/8" up and down. Rudder 2 3/8" left and right. The elevator and rudder weren't written on the plans- I measured them with a ruler. I always noticed when taxiing out that there was not much elevator throw. Plane simply would not taxi in the grass. Flew great though!


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