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Old 11-20-2014, 12:19 PM
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DAMN! I was hoping to get away with less than that.
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:32 PM
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You Only need the hole in the Last photo. The First is a bit to big.
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Tom, Thanks so much for sharing this. Please look at pic below and comment. I will need to have small holes where the front cylinder is, it hits the bottom of the cowl just a tiny bit.

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Old 11-20-2014, 12:47 PM
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Right. The big one in the Front is not Needed.

The small holes you have to Close in the "cold" side because of the overpressure. All air should Go thru the engine.
On the hot Side (where the Walbros are) is it no lroblem when there are holes.

The hole by the Firewall you Build like this or a bit smaller with a Little Spoiler. When the Top of the First Zylinder Hits the cowl you can Build something in Glass.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:53 PM
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Awesome thanks again!
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So when is going to be the first start of the engine? And is there going to an accompanied video to go with it?

Such a beautiful piece of work, can't wait to get mine!
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Tom. Can we see some pics under the cowl of your spitfire? Looks like the weight of the kolm would be perfect on the spitfire. Mine has 6 lbs of motor, 5 lbs of lead and everything as far forward as you can get it. What prop and what rpm are you getting out of it? Thanks! Mike
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:41 PM
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Good Morning.

Yes i can Show you some Pics is you want. Hope DrScoles don't have a Problem when i do it Here?

Mike you are Right. The Weiht ist perfekt. I Used the il135 And the IL 150. Both fits perfekt. Tho Power is Near the Same, Only the Sound is Different.
Il135 Fiala prop 30/14 Blade or 28/14 3blade
IL 150 30/16 2blade or 28/16 3blade

rpm about 4900-5000 on ground with 3blade. 2 Blade a bit more. In flight i have 6200-6500. Kolm are working best when ground-Rpm is about 4800-5200
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Well, the big exit hole is the obvious choice if your trying to just make it work. Personally I dont care for that and I would work something else out so there are no large openings. Otherwise for me at least it would look no better than a 60 size ARF.
Maybe put a mesh screen over the opening to hide it a little.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:14 PM
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Post away Tom! Glad you are sharing your knowledge here.

LOL Chris, a 60 size arf with a badass sound and a whole lot of scale detail...
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Sound is definitily Bad ass .... Best you can have For your warbird.

Chris : i will find some pics from Scale mustangs where it Work. The Photo is from the Galloping ghost. Of course the holes have to be bigger when you have 4zxlinders.
When you use telemetry you will find Out wuickly what will work And what not.
If you don't like holes For cooling you have to use a Fan .... Or you fly sailplanes
we Tested a Lot in the Last 3jears. And a inline engine Needs a perfekt cooling!!
i don't think my Spit looks like a 60 ARF

here a Video from the Second Test flight with New engine:

http://youtu.be/Ad7QIqs-hsg
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If you guys are interested, i can open a new thread like : Installation IL150 in carf Spitfire, so this thread here doesn´t go of topic.

i have many pics ...we created a new installation kit with kolm for 2 oder 3 zylinders.
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If you guys are interested, i can open a new thread like : Installation IL150 in carf Spitfire, so this thread here doesn´t go of topic.

i have many pics ...we created a new installation kit with kolm for 2 oder 3 zylinders.
Your info is super:-) Do you have any pics and info of a carf P51 and the IL150?

I have the IL 150 With the Carf spitfire kit planning to make it work in a P51! Do you recomend to use the rubber mountings or just Mount the motor direktly in the Wood? and what kind of ECS and set up are you using for the el starter?

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for p51 the installation kit for il150 is similar to the IL135. better you use it this way. the installation in p51 is much easier then in Spitfire. why do you want to do this ?

i try to get photos for you!
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for p51 the installation kit for il150 is similar to the IL135. better you use it this way. the installation in p51 is much easier then in Spitfire. why do you want to do this ?

i try to get photos for you!
I first order the spitfire and the IL150 With the kit and then i change my mind and sold the spitfire,i keep the IL150 and kit and got the P51! The kit was not cheap and i thinking of reusing it for the P51! My plan was to do a similar installation as DrScoles With the parts from the spitfire kit not using the carbon rods.(hope you understand my bad English writing:-) )

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The rods are not needed, you a right. and the woods you have to refit . i think the best way will be, you talk to Johann Kolm. maybe he will change you the installation kit from "Spitfire" to "p51".
if you will not, you have to cut the wood by your own. i think its not a big problem. the plates for engine mount will work, but the wood parts for glueing into the airframe you have to cut new
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I contact Kolm and ask for a change for the P51 kit,the spit kit is still in the Box and not worked on! if not i the same think its not a big deal to make the spit kit work in the P51.

What do you think of using or not using the rubber Mounts? And how are your set up on the el starter?

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I don't use rubbermount For the 150. i Build my cooling with Foam
directly to the Zylinders , so its not good when my engine is moving to much around.

The starter Works perfekt. I used 3S lipo And later 2S. What you See in my Video is a start with. 2S. Looks very Real!
It's not easy to Handle alle the cables
And: i use a fuel Pump for the Il150

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If you guys are interested, i can open a new thread like : Installation IL150 in carf Spitfire, so this thread here doesn´t go of topic.

i have many pics ...we created a new installation kit with kolm for 2 oder 3 zylinders.
Defiantly interested. Especially the system you use for cooling the engine. This has been a problem with the Spitfire when I use a gas engine. Any insights/information on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Tom, how was balancing the mustang? 14 pound engine that far out in front makes me wonder how far back I'll be putting the batteries?

So That's a CARF spitfire that you got the 3cyl in??? I like it! I wanted the Spit before the mustang, just concerned about cooling with the Spit. I know Gotz is making a few with the Kolm engines. Hans is making a kit for the Spit also? Very cool!
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Yes the kit you can have from Kolm or Götz
As i Said, if you want i can write a litte Thread about, or i can do it here. But i don't want to spam the thread of dr. Scoles.

The cg is no problem with Both Types of Planes. You can do the batteries behind the Canopy. No wheigt in the back needeed.

Tell me how i should do. No problem For me.... Kolm Pilots should help Each other. There are some Tricks you should know And some thing you Really need to know !
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Tom, feel free to post here. Your input is very valuable! You can save me and others from a lot of potential grief.
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I don't use rubbermount For the 150. i Build my cooling with Foam
directly to the Zylinders , so its not good when my engine is moving to much around.

The starter Works perfekt. I used 3S lipo And later 2S. What you See in my Video is a start with. 2S. Looks very Real!
It's not easy to Handle alle the cables
And: i use a fuel Pump for the Il150

tom
Thank you:-)

What kind/maker of speed Controller are you using on the el starter?

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My question is why do you need an ESC for the starter motor.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:23 PM
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Greg, I'm not positive, but I think you want a slight soft start. might be hard on the system if you had that big out runner going to full power instantly. The ones I have for my DLE's have an ESC.
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