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Old 04-08-2016, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 757jonp
I'm currently building a TF GS P 47, working on the wing/retract (Robart) installation right now. I see the plans call for a 5" wheel, which I have, but they seem to thick (1.5 inches) to allow for full retraction. I've searched around, but haven't come across a 5 inch wheel much narrower than the ones I've got now. Any suggestions on a wheel that works/looks good?
I have the ARF GS TF P-47 and had the same problem after my right wheel fell of on the maiden.

And guess what the wheels are the only parts that are not on the replacement list the wheels are just under 5' but only 1.46" wide. I kept bugging a young lady at the Distributors/TopFlite and after a couple of months a package showed in the mail with a note to stop bugging her. I think they opened an ARF for some other replacement and just sent me the Wheels (all Three)
What U might do is put a 4 and 3/4" wheel or cut the bottoms of the wheel out and paint the inside of the wing in Zinc Chromate to look like the Full Scale Wheel Well. Best I can suggest.

I would of thought the Foam wheels would have come with the KIT oh well There the $85 each from R
obart. and U still might have to modify the wheel well.

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Old 04-08-2016, 07:24 PM
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They do have five inch foam wheels that come with the kit they are included. ....My bad, you are referring to the kit not the ARF.

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Old 04-11-2016, 05:21 PM
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A question for the those running a DLE 61 engine in this plane. What size prop do you find provides the best performance ? Some members at my club think I should run my throttle on a two position switch. Stop and WOT.
Old 04-14-2016, 08:17 AM
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anyone using a radial engine?
Old 04-14-2016, 09:06 AM
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Radfordc is using a 3 cylinder Saito. Not sure what size it is but it turned a 22x10 and flies the airplane well.
Old 04-14-2016, 01:03 PM
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Thanks Lifer,

Radfordc, what you got??

I thinking of ditching the G62 and get some exp with a radial 4 stroke before I start my Ziroli Hellcat.
Old 04-14-2016, 02:00 PM
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I have a Saito FG60R3. I runs great so far, but there are reports of cracked cylinders starting to become common.
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I saw that...you think the 84 would fit the cowl?
Old 04-16-2016, 03:55 PM
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My buddy bought the arc kit and an ASP radial from hobby King. The cowl would need to have some valve cover clearance holes put in it but I think it would still look good if you cut cowl in half and space out 5/16 inch and reblend contour.
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Guys,

i have stripped and and glassed the new TF Razorback and have been thinking of replacing the plastic parts with some glass parts from Fiberglass Specialties. Will those parts fit the ARF? I know this has been covered but I am unclear since I thought someone said that some parts fit and others didn't? Have any of you stripped and glassed one of these ARF's? Thanks in advance!
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The P47D ARF has a f-glass cowl.Does the razorback have a plastic cowl?
Old 04-17-2016, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by haefeli
My buddy bought the arc kit and an ASP radial from hobby King. The cowl would need to have some valve cover clearance holes put in it but I think it would still look good if you cut cowl in half and space out 5/16 inch and reblend contour.

Interesting engine, too bad its glow I had at one point thought about making the cowl remove in sections like the full scale P-47 and if a guy were to do that it would be easy I would thing to add to the dia of the cowl to fit that radial... but your suggestion too is good,,much better than having the tip of an engine protruding out of the cowl even if covered by blisters...

Speaking of cowls...maybe you can help us clear up the cowl mystery. I have spoken to Fiberglass specialties and they say the cowl that they offer does not fit the Top Flite P-47 ARF but could not recall the differences he said. However, if I remember correctly, you purchased one and I have posted a question to Tony Builder who made a comment and has pictures of his FS cowl in his build (cowl flaps) but im unclear if it was his ARC model or the kit.

My conclusion is that it fits but the cowl flaps are different and that difference is what FS is referring too but im not willing to spend 50.00 to verify lol since I will NEVER build a TF P-47 kit.

So......anyone out there care to clear this matter up so it can be settled once and for all??

BTW, When I get my "razor" from Ziroli I will post pics for you guys to see so we can all know for sure if this can be cut down to fit the TF P-47. I think it can and since there is nobody that is offering this part its my only option at this time since I also do not have the TF P-47 kit plans for the addition which,,, now that I mention it...maybe someone can scan and provide that portion from the plans???
Old 04-17-2016, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SWORDSN
The P47D ARF has a f-glass cowl.Does the razorback have a plastic cowl?
Good question, I think I read the kit has to be put together (plastic).
Old 04-17-2016, 09:46 AM
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My buddy has arc version. Came with cowl from the arf.The ugly blue and orange one. My fiberglass specialties one I used for my kit is same size. Order chin separate. Not included from F.S. with cowl. Kit is plastic yes it needs to be built. White abs. Flaps from kit to F.S. different. I cut mine off kit and cut off F.S. pieces for abs parts to be used. Fiberglass was not crisp sharp lines. Cloth didn't lay sharp corners. Not laid up using vacuum box is my guess otherwise it wouldn't of been delaminated and shoddy.

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Old 04-17-2016, 03:01 PM
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Thank you
Old 04-17-2016, 08:21 PM
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No. Cheap plastic parts
Old 04-18-2016, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AC2
anyone using a radial engine?
I am, using the Saito FG-60R3 in my Tarheel Hal. Just maidened it two days ago. Love it! Everyone at the field comments on how awesome it sounds. Didn't need any lead in the tail or anything, just proper placement of the batteries. Made a custom battery tray and mounted it back where the wing screws down.

Still running it rich but doesn't seem to matter. Half throttle is plenty of power to fly around and do some scale type maneuvers.
Old 04-18-2016, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 757jonp
I'm currently building a TF GS P 47, working on the wing/retract (Robart) installation right now. I see the plans call for a 5" wheel, which I have, but they seem to thick (1.5 inches) to allow for full retraction. I've searched around, but haven't come across a 5 inch wheel much narrower than the ones I've got now. Any suggestions on a wheel that works/looks good?
Just FYI I think I'm running the same setup as you. Electric Robart retracts then I went with the 5" aluminum wheels and tires from Robart. They are thicker than the stock foam tires, and cause the retracts to stick out a little farther, which means the doors stick out a little bit too when you have the wheels up.

Well on my 3rd flight this weekend during a high speed pass both retract doors tore off the plane in the air. Parts of them poked holes in the bottoms of the wings. Oh well, it didn't affect flight so I kept flying haha. Just be careful, if your retract doors stick out past the bottom of the wing chances are they are going to catch air and tear off.
Old 04-20-2016, 07:13 AM
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Hey guys, okay so I got the razor in from Ziroli. A little bit of trimming and I think it will be fine. Its the only option I could find so Im relieved to see that I can make it work.
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Old 04-20-2016, 07:21 AM
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Its 2" longer but after trimming down should be okay. will find out and keep you all posted.....

I matched the radius up with the canopy and it is just a tad off but its flexible enough to bring it in so when Im ready I will start at the canopy and work my way back when triming, I honestly see no major issue with the razor. No complaints about the quality of build, I am very happy and the price was well worth it.
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Old 04-20-2016, 03:09 PM
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If anyone is interested I was in Galvaston at the Loan Star Museum last Sunday and there was "TAR HEEL" siting right there in the corner of the Display Hanger big as life. Talked a quite young lady into letting me cross the chains and take a number of Detail Pictures of many parts of TH. Some good some OK and some not so good. Did see the Tail wheel Gear Doors had some diggings and bent corners
Here's a couple if any one is interested I'll Post More.
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:45 AM
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Hi every body.Having making the engine breaking in.I started wiht the cockpit.firstly i made a balsa box paneling wiht evergreen plastic.Adding some rivets and painted wiht Usaf interior green.I decided to make full scale possible within my posibilities .here i let you some photos of the actual status of the cockpit unfinished .i made the seat removableand i use the parachute set up like security harness.

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Old 04-24-2016, 09:27 AM
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Looks really good!
Old 04-24-2016, 04:25 PM
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Wow!!
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Hello Everybody,

I'm Hardy from Germany and I'm very lucky I found this thread because I recently acquired a TF P-47 kit. Please have mercy if my English isn't always pervect, especially when it comes to advanced technical vocabulary.

I probably won't start actually building the kit before the next winter, as there are a few other things that need to be finished first. This is only going to be my 4th kit build from the ground up, and my biggest one so far, though I do have a tendency to make more or less extensive modifications on my ARFs and I've also done some restorations and bigger repairs. I think I should well be able to build this plane, though it's gonna take some time as I'm not a very fast builder. That's also why I'll probably have to keep this build somewhat basic and simple, and it includes many firsts for me as it is. First warbird, first noteworthy retracts, first fully sheeted round fuselage, first bird I intend to glass and so on. Though when I look at the beautiful birds in this thread, the possibilities to get lost in details seem limitless and very tempting.

I haven't decided on a landing gear or an engine yet, though at the moment I'm tending towards staying in the 50-62cc range with a simple 2-stroke 1-cylinder. I found one TF Jug on youtube which I think doesn't sound too bad. For a simple engine. What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpClzq7h_NE That bird has a 3W 55cc turning a Biela 20x10 4-blade prop. I guess it also has something better than a standard silencer, maybe a 3-chamber system? Combustion sounds seem more silent than on other jugs with comparable engines, therefore the propeller sounds are more dominant. I guess the swooshing sound comes from the 4-blader? Finding good silencer might a priority. Which brings up a question. Has anyone here built a longer silencer into the Jug's fuselage? The one-piece wing construction probably doesn't make it any easier.

On the other hand, if the engine decision can be delayed until the build has made some considerable progress, maybe, considering all the effort and expensive equipment going into such a plane, a luxury engine might become more attractive.

One thing though was decided long before I bought this kit: If one day I'm going to have a Thunderbolt it absolutely has to be a Razorback. IMHO the one defining characteristic of the Thunderbolt is that it was this massive, heavy beast. And if you worship the fat birdie the slim version just won't do it. As for the finish, aluminium or camouflage? I actually like camo Razorbacks better than silver ones, and thank god for that, because even if I didn't I'd probably have to go with camo anyway. Simply because I'd shy away from that whole flite metal procedure and don't find aluminium colored covering material or paint very appealing. But I have to admit seeing the silver machines in this thread almost makes me question my own preferences.

Anyway, I think I want camouflage with invasion stripes and a little bit of bright colors thrown in the mix. I have one particular image stuck in my head:



Damned, I used to have that very plastic model kit gathering dust in the attic for many years. And then, also many years ago, stupid me decided to get rid of all those unbuilt attic kits on ebay. If I still had it I'd have detailed painting instructions and a decal sheet to scan in at high resolution. What I like about that design is the actual camouflage pattern instead of just monochrome olive drab. Red nose and yellow rudder are nice touches. I don't remember from that plastic kit what the underside looked like, if it was camo patterned or just grey. But if it had invasion stripes under the fuse, it must have had stripes under the wings, too, right? Talking about the stripes, I think I remember seeing Thunderbolts somewhere that had also had stripes on the top of the wings, but none on the top of the fuselage. Can that be right? Somehow I don't like fuselage top stripes, but I do like them on the wings. That, and a juicy pin-up nose art would be the two things that would make this design even better. If anyone knows birds similar to this, with nose art and maybe wing stripes, I'd be glad about some suggestions. Guess I'll have to get some books on the topic.

This post is getting too long, I'll have to cut it here. But I'll be back with many more questions, hopefully not too annoying, about landing gears, cowls and canopies and more. Can't hurt to think things through before starting a build. And as they always say, there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.

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