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Old 07-10-2017, 02:58 PM
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I don't intend to use bigger throws than given in the manual, but I think the control surfaces should always be able to move at least a little bit further than that, just in case that I later decide, for whatever reason, to increase the throws. Usually my control surfaces can move much further than the throws I end up using, but with the P-47 I'll probably limit that excess throw capability to a minimum in the attempt to end up with a somewhat scalish looking hinge line. How well that will work out remains to be seen.

With most planes I start programming the high rate throws given in a manual and use quite a lot of expo. So I have fine enough control if the plane turns out to be twitchy, and plenty of authority to counter any nasty maiden flight surprise. More often than not I pretty much stick to that programming except for a few minor adjustments, as it allows for smooth flying and emergency maneuverability.
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More than 20 flights always with low rates, I think that is more than enough for every kind of flight...
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Old 07-10-2017, 03:29 PM
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Sounds like a good approach.

I have seen way too many planes damaged or lost due to excess control throw, particularly pitch and roll. I always recommend a conservative approach.
Old 07-10-2017, 06:38 PM
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The only control I leave on high rate is the rudder, I have seen way to many planes lost to to much elevator and aileron inputs. The P-47 is or has to be the best flying warbird to fly. I have two a 63" TF, 20 years old still flies great, and a GS TF .

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I will add my thoughts as I have G/S T/F 47 @30 + lbs. G-62 for power, Hi rate on the rudder, hi rate on the elevators with 30% expos, and low rate on the ailerons this has proved for me to be a good combination

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Some pics from the Warbirds Over Missouri meet last Saturday.
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Old 08-07-2017, 04:12 AM
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I've started cutting pockets for the elevator hinge point covers but, comparing to some photos, these seem a little to big. It seems the 3-view drawing which I've taken the measurements from isn't very accurate. Now I'm having some difficulties finding a good photo of a P-47 elevator to take measurements from. Most pics are taken at a much too flat angle and distorted by perspective. The 3-views I have are either too small or drawn with too thick lines to display this little detail accurately. Also I'm not completely sure I which drawing is trustworthy and which is wrong. Maybe you have a link or a pic to help me out here?

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Old 08-07-2017, 12:20 PM
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Does this help a little bit. It's the right Elevator trim tab on TarHeel Hal. Just a suggstion check out Wickapedia for the location (meseum) where the P-47 is U wish to model, Call them and see if some one won't lay a ruler on the area in question and take some pictures with a cell phone and EMail them to you.
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Old 08-07-2017, 12:32 PM
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Any one know what these light are and how they work? They are on the under side of the right wing tip of TarHeel Hal. I think they are Red, Green, & Yellow. Some one told me they were formation lights but if so how do they function?
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Old 08-07-2017, 12:32 PM
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Might be of interest:

Old 08-07-2017, 12:44 PM
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Aircraft Recognition Lights – A series of colored lights (White, Red, Green and Amber), were installed on aircraft (see Figure _ TBM-3 Recognition Lights) that were used to recognize friendly aircraft at night. These lights were used in different combinations, or could be used for signaling purposes. They were limited to reliable use during daylight. The control switch-boxes were usually positioned on the right-side in fighter aircraft (see Figure _ P-61), and would be located on the aisle stand on bombers. The White recognition light would be mounted on the upper fuselage of the aircraft and was teardrop shaped and protruded slightly upward. The Red, Green and Amber recognition lights were flush mounted usually on the bottom of the fuselage or on the right wing tip.
Old 10-15-2017, 11:33 PM
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Photo from past weekend Greek scale national competition with my friend's Hangar9 Kansas tornado scheme.. I am very satisfied with the model!!!!!
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:46 AM
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I have a TF p-47 giant arf whit saito 60 it flies great 23x8 porp 22lbs. keep the thread going.
Old 11-24-2017, 02:39 AM
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Another interesting video:

Old 11-26-2017, 06:19 AM
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I need to figure out which landing gear I'm going to use for my P-47, so I have a few questions.

Is it possible to realize fully closed inner gear doors with the Robart gear and without radical wing re-design (like cutting the main spar)?

How about the quality of the Robart gear or other products fitting the construction? Some pics showing the mechanisms in some more detail would be highly appreciated. I've seen some other Robart product which left me somewhat sceptical about their price/quality ratio.

What other products would you recommend? I'm not even sure about electric vs. pneumatic. This is my first warbird and my first plane with retracts, I need to get an overview, some options to consider.

Greetings,
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Old 11-26-2017, 06:55 AM
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Sort of new to BIG electrics so
Is a Hacker A60-6XS 28 Pole V2 big enough to fly the TF GS P-47 ARF like the TarHeel Hal?
Old 11-26-2017, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hardy_H
I need to figure out which landing gear I'm going to use for my P-47, so I have a few questions.

Is it possible to realize fully closed inner gear doors with the Robart gear and without radical wing re-design (like cutting the main spar)?

How about the quality of the Robart gear or other products fitting the construction? Some pics showing the mechanisms in some more detail would be highly appreciated. I've seen some other Robart product which left me somewhat sceptical about their price/quality ratio.

What other products would you recommend? I'm not even sure about electric vs. pneumatic. This is my first warbird and my first plane with retracts, I need to get an overview, some options to consider.

Greetings,
​​​​​​​Hardy
Yes you can with 5" wheels in the stock location. I have been using pneumatic retracts for 25 years and no issues, but then I use the best valves and the best retract, no HK. Lots of guys use electrics, I have one with electrics and they seams ok.

Ron
Old 11-28-2017, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hardy_H
I need to figure out which landing gear I'm going to use for my P-47, so I have a few questions.

Is it possible to realize fully closed inner gear doors with the Robart gear and without radical wing re-design (like cutting the main spar)?

How about the quality of the Robart gear or other products fitting the construction? Some pics showing the mechanisms in some more detail would be highly appreciated. I've seen some other Robart product which left me somewhat sceptical about their price/quality ratio.

What other products would you recommend? I'm not even sure about electric vs. pneumatic. This is my first warbird and my first plane with retracts, I need to get an overview, some options to consider.

Greetings,
​​​​​​​Hardy
I've had good results with Robart air,over 600 flights(yes I keep a log)
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Plus one on the air retracts. The only problem I've had was the air tank spinning and tying the airline into a knot. Glued the tank down with Sho Goo and no problems since.
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Originally Posted by Lifer
Plus one on the air retracts. The only problem I've had was the air tank spinning and tying the airline into a knot. Glued the tank down with Sho Goo and no problems since.
I've had that same problem,just got to goo her in
Old 12-10-2017, 04:20 PM
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Does anyone happen to have an extra set of Top Flite 1/7 P-47 plans that you are not using? I need a set.

Thanks
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardy_H
I need to figure out which landing gear I'm going to use for my P-47, so I have a few questions.

Is it possible to realize fully closed inner gear doors with the Robart gear and without radical wing re-design (like cutting the main spar)?

How about the quality of the Robart gear or other products fitting the construction? Some pics showing the mechanisms in some more detail would be highly appreciated. I've seen some other Robart product which left me somewhat sceptical about their price/quality ratio.

What other products would you recommend? I'm not even sure about electric vs. pneumatic. This is my first warbird and my first plane with retracts, I need to get an overview, some options to consider.

Greetings,
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If you have not purchased retracts yet. Take a look at " Down and Locked" Warbird 180 Electrics. These are the retracts I will put in My Razorback and the quality is superb, They are mech better than the Robarts. Good quality stuff from Mitch Stott. WWW.Downandlocked.com You wont be dissapointed
Old 12-30-2017, 04:02 AM
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I have Ro bart air retracts on my TF P47 Razorback and have never had a problem with them. I've had their electrics on an ESM P47 and did have a few problems, and my son had their electrics on an FW190....the retracts couldn't even lift the wheels (they are long on that model). Their electric retracts used to be provided by Down & Locked, but they parted ways over sourcing. Wikes RC provided the electronics to D&L'd. If you're going with air, you'd probably do ok with Ro bart as long as there's no nose gear (there isn't). Their nose gear yoke alloy is way too thin and bends with almost any grass landing. I'm not sure they do much design validation lately. They have problems, for example, with that new air compressor. If money is no object, go with D&L'd, especially with electric retracts.
Old 12-30-2017, 04:32 AM
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Like every year now is -20% Christmas discount on all my sets + discount if you order three or four sets!!!

For P 47 I can offer: Detail set, Mirce Finish set, Extra rivets set and Paint masc...

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hey guys!!!! its been a while, but hows everyone doing??


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