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Old 07-22-2019, 09:57 PM
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I have the Robart in mine and don’t think they’re that great. There is a lot of side and forward movement against the trunion. I would try and fit Electron if I did it again.
Old 07-27-2019, 09:12 AM
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Hello HiCurrent,

I use the Sierra Gears with air system. Works great. Sierra makes them for the TopRc model Zero. Just a minor modification needed. Just call Sierra and ask for them.
Please see my posts here under "Totto"
For info: My friend "Flypilot" took the picture you are referring to. Also the video
Old 07-28-2019, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeJM

I loved my TopRc Zero, however I experienced 2 major structural failures with my Zero. First problem was a leading edge flutter at the root of the wing, right in front of the wheel wells I recovered from this and made a modification to minimize the problem. The second failure was unrecoverable.

BUYER BEWARE. Make sure you reinforce the tube mounts
Hi Mike,

We have 3 Zeros on the way. Can you elaborate on both structural failures, including pictures and where do you suggest to reinforce?
Has anyone else experienced these failures?

Thanks, Dror.
Old 07-28-2019, 12:48 PM
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Reinforcing the wing tubes is a good idea. If you check the fuse, in front of the tail section you will see that it is paper thin. I reinforced mine with carbon fiber after have one crack on me. It is a messy job so I tape off the fuse with plastic drop cloth so I can turn the fuse in multi directions to get back there and not worry about getting epoxy on the fuse. You will probably have to add just a bit of nose weight, no big deal as this plane can carry a lot of weight.
Old 08-25-2019, 08:14 PM
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Default Power Distribution Question

Any suggestion for power distribution? in smaller gas models i use 2 RXs - each with its own battery and switch, dividing the servos between the two RXs (i.e. one aileron, one elevator side, rudder and kill switch in one Rx, another aileron, other elevator side, throttle in 2nd Rx). i guess in the Zero with flaps and retracts i'll need a better solution, thinking about PowerBox Mercury SRS.
WDYT?
Old 08-26-2019, 03:23 AM
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If I were of the thought that I needed that then yes, PowerBox is the way to go.

What radio do you use?
Old 08-26-2019, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
If I were of the thought that I needed that then yes, PowerBox is the way to go.

What radio do you use?
Futaba 18 SZ
Old 09-03-2019, 11:45 PM
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Hello,

Regarding Zero tubes

I have also reinforced the aft tubes since those was paper thin. The front tubes seems much better on mine, but i will keep an eye on those also.
For sure.... do it !
Old 12-31-2019, 08:39 PM
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Default 2019 Scale Masters

My Zero showed very well at the 2019 Scale Masters in California last fall. My pilot, Adam Clement, took 1st place in Pro Am Pro division.
Here is a nice video of the Zero in action created by the RC Geek. Check it out.
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Old 01-01-2020, 12:12 AM
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Looks good.
Old 01-02-2020, 02:00 PM
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Hi guys. I'm still assembling my model but I did few modifications:
1. Elevator pushrods are hidden in the fuselage.
2. Flaps pushrods are hidden in the wings
3. Aileron pushrods are shifted to upper side of the wings like on the original Zero.
4. Exhaust heat protection sheets are sanded off and replaced with aluminium sheets in proper positions.
5. Stock exhausts are replaced with plastic tubes to have more realistic look.
6. Added few thousand of rivets and hundreds of screw heads.
7. Whole plane was slightly sanded and painted with silver , then finish coat. I used masking fluid to achieve paint chipping effect.

Unfortunately I can't share any pictures... forum rules says I need to have 10 posts to be able to attach pictures. So I will keep posting....
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Old 01-03-2020, 02:04 PM
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This is how cowl flaps operates in my plane:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2g9KL0Bjrs
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Old 01-03-2020, 02:12 PM
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And Saito FG-90r3 for my Zero with 3-blade Biela 22x12 prop and custom made ring muffler:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jakxqgu-VRw
Old 01-04-2020, 01:25 AM
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Very nice work
Old 01-04-2020, 09:15 PM
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Looks great. waiting to see the pictures. When you attach pictures, i'd appreciate a close look at the elevator, aileron and flaps links.

Also, how did you place the radio and ignition switches? i'm looking for a way to keep them internal, but without the need to remove the cockpit every time to turn then on and off.

I will start assembling mine in a week or two.
Old 01-05-2020, 02:16 AM
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Hi,
I didn't finish assembling my model yet. Remaining is: cockpit (will be made from scratch), flaps servo mounting, undercarriage hatch with door actuators. All electronics and fuel system to be installed in the fuselage.
I'm planning to bring all electronics as much forward as possible. Despite that I will need more then 1kg of ballast in the cowl to achieve correct CG. For sure there will be no any switches outside of the plane, removing cockpit is not big deal in this model.
Old 01-05-2020, 07:18 AM
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Finally I can attach some pictures:

1. Ailerons:
I cut another hatch in the wing to install servos, pushrods and control horns to have scale look





2. Elevator linkage
I cut hatch in the tail like the original Zero had to have an access for linkage connetion. It is slightly overscaled but then I can put my fingers inside to screw upper part of control horn and connect it to pushrods.For elevators I used 8mm alu tube with inserted wooden core. On the elevator side lever is M4 screw . The other side is heavy duty control horn M3. Once horizontal stabilizers are in place I can instal control horn with srewdriver through the tail wheel hatch. Servos for elevator are Savox SV-1260MG. I'm still missing one piece because was out of stock in shop so pictures doesn't shows how everything is connected.








Old 01-05-2020, 07:45 AM
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3, Flaps. I think pictures are self explaining:




4. Cowling.
I used 2 plywood brackets to fix cowl to the fuselage. 2 screws for each bracket, alligned to positions in the cowl as original Zero had. In such a way no extra screws are visible to spoil scale look.



Old 01-05-2020, 07:54 AM
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5. Pilot is 3D printout treated with spray filler and hand painted by me









Old 01-05-2020, 08:09 AM
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Other pictures showing details of my Zero project at present stage :















Old 01-05-2020, 07:47 PM
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Fantastic job on the Zero!!!!. I'm wondering what spinner you used? it looks more scale that the one from TopRC. I would submit that the prop looks like a 22X12 Broad blade folk wulf prop. The 22X12 WW II Beila (sp) is a good choice but I think the FW type with the broad blade over loads the engine. I flew the FW type for 2 years on my Zero and it gave good performance and a great sound but my engine eventually did blow up on take off. Very dramatic loud BANG. Sent it to Ray for repair and he surmised it was most likely the prop. Just passing that experience along. I have no expertise in the matter, just an observation. I can't say enough about how good the TopRC Zero flies..
Old 01-06-2020, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LtMash1A
I'm wondering what spinner you used? it looks more scale that the one from TopRC.
It's indeed TopRc spinner with Biela Focke Wulf prop. Maybe weathering and engraved rivets makes such an impression that it's not TopRc. I'm planning to make spinner more to the scale by extension of it's body behind the prop.
What a pity that your Saito blew up.... I'm worrying now because while choosing prop for my Zero I followed Your input in this thread.
I don't know if this will help, but I use a Beila 22X12 3 blade Folk wulf prop on my Zero with the 90...Combined with the Keleo Exhaust Ring people are going to asking you "What have you got in that thing? It really sounds great"
Anyway if you managed to fly 2 years with this setup it's not bad for me....it's average lifetime of my models .
I'll try to be carefull with power management just not to overload my Saito. In fact I think that FG90 is bit overpower for this Zero. On full throttle it flies like a bullet , way to fast for me.... If there wouldn't be quality issues, FG60 that would be my choice. With this engine Zero would fly more to the scale.

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Old 01-10-2020, 12:16 PM
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Assembling of tail section is finished. This is how it looks:




and how it's done:

Old 01-10-2020, 09:31 PM
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This is amazing. Thanks for sharing the details.
Old 01-12-2020, 04:02 PM
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Few pictures from today's airfield tests:







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