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Old 02-20-2016, 12:52 PM
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Reason why I bought this probably the ugliest ARF Spitfire over the world is that the flight season 2016 is too close and I havenīt any giant warbird! The price is very reasonable, and she hase two pieces wing and elevator.
Because of the allwood construction Iīm awaiting flight weight similar as my ESM Dauntless (7715g).
I have DLE 30, this engine will be perfect in this Spitfire. There are many mistakes. For example shape of the tail, cowl which looks as something between Mk XIV and Mk IX, flaps and the other... but it would be good for flying. Probably I will make some small changes.
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Old 02-20-2016, 02:13 PM
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That pilot looks like something I wouldn't want?
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I donīt know, why they add this sport pilot with warbird. Thatīs not suitable for Spitfire, and wider than the cockpit frame.
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:52 AM
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Hatch hinges on flaps? Sure? I suppose the nylon pinned hinges will look much better.
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:41 AM
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New flaps are almost ready. Meantime I cut of the landing gear covering. I suprised that the black stripes are stick labels!
I have two choices with retracts. Both of them are from HK and servoless. The all metal retract is heavier than the plastic one. Both of them are suitable for planes up to 12 kg (33 lbs)So any reason why to use the all metal one?
Anybody has experience or use these retracts?
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Old 02-21-2016, 08:27 PM
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Nobody here use the HK servoless retracts?
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:15 AM
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I have to think the metal would be the way to go, might have a little more weight but it would seem to me to be a lot stronger ?
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:47 AM
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My first think was the same. The metal one will be heavier but stronger. After them I looked at the details. Both of them are for the planes up to 12 kg!
So, how could it be stronger?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._10mm_Pin.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...unt_2pcs_.html

It looks like, the only differences are the weight and price.
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Interested in your build as I also recently purchased one. Thought it would be a good kick around plan. Not a good scale plane but pretty good looking airplane for the price and intended use. Like you I liked the wing and stab assemble plus the removable top deck.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:13 AM
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Interested in your build as I also recently purchased one. Thought it would be a good kick around plan. Not a good scale plane but pretty good looking airplane for the price and intended use. Like you I liked the wing and stab assemble plus the removable top deck.
Youīre right dmyers. Not a good scale plane but pretty good looking for the price. Probably I wonīt have assemble stab. In my opinion the servos in the tail are some useless weight in the tail. Which servos do you have in stab?
Iīm thinking how to pass the pull bars through the fuselage.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:25 AM
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When I bought this ARF kit I said, only the put she together and fly her. But I canīt. The cowl is appalling. After two days thinking what to do with it is decided. Make a new one! I use my moulds for B.T. 83" Spitfire cowl and chin scoop and made a new parts. The resin exhaust set is ready
So, which one is better? The new cowl is only 200g (7 ozs).

Now I know, she will be repainted.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:34 AM
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JPwarbirds cowl, chin scoop and the resin dummy exhausts. In last pictures my exhaust set on Edīs H9 30cc Spitfire.
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Like you I bought with no intentions of changing much but may rethink it as your cowl mod is awesome.
Have not started assembly yet. Intend to keep removable stabs.
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:28 PM
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I hope, that the take off weight will be up to 8 kg (17.6 lbs).
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169 mm oleo legs ordered, they will arrive during next 3 weeks. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...9mm_2pcs_.html
I need 160 mm, so no problem for me make them shorter.
I decided for the plastic retracts. Because the HK said, this retract is suitable for planes up to 12 kg. Iīm sure, this Spitfire will be up to 10 kg, so the lower weight retracts will be better. The retracts are already fitted in the wings. Iīm thinking about the wedge the rectracts and get the wheels 20 mm forward.
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As I wrote, she will be repainted. Here are some possible paintschemes. The conditions:
1) Czechoslovak SQN
2) Mk. IX with rounded rudder
3) Invasion stripes.

Interesting is marking DU J without the black stripes on the tail. Itīs evident in the first shot. DU L with "window" in the stripes. I found some shots, where we can see, stripes ended before the ailerons.
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Old 02-23-2016, 12:34 PM
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Another DU J. But with the black stripes. Probably only the Spitfire pilot could say which camouflage is the right.
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Sorry for the late reply on the retracts,, I have a set of the metal retracts on a PC21 which weigh's in at around 7.5kg. These have worked faultlessly for over a year and will take a bit of punishment. Go with them mate.
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Personally I would stay away from the stripes if possible, they are overdone on about EVERY WARBIRD model you see. Dare to be differ, the stripes pull away much of the classic lines of the Spit., P-47, P-51 and so on.
just my view, 2 cents worth.
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Thank you for your answer G T. I will use the metal retract in my 80" La-5 FN when I done this Spitfire.

The cockpit desk is cut off. I will make some cockpit boards and instrumet panel.
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Personally I would stay away from the stripes if possible, they are overdone on about EVERY WARBIRD model you see. Dare to be differ, the stripes pull away much of the classic lines of the Spit., P-47, P-51 and so on.
just my view, 2 cents worth.
Youīre right Gizmo. Iīm still thinking about it. But I also still work on BT 83" Spitfire Mk IX. She will be with the pointed rudder and without stripes. So I thinking about one Spitfire without stripes and one with the stripes.
Probably the stripes will be good for orientation in the air.

And last think is to make two Spitfires DU L. One with pointed rudder without stripes and the second one with the rounded rudder and with the stripes (last picture).
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The base of instrument panel I made from 3 mm foamy desk. On this base I will glue the colour picture of the origin desk.
The boards of cockpit are made of 1.5mm plastic desk.
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Rear part of cockpit is ready to paint. Iīve done the backplate of instrument panel and set two HXT 5010 for flaps. During next days I will cover them with covering film.
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Here is the left wing flap. Is the colour of the inner part flaps same as a cockpit paint?
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Nice looking model and great job on the flaps.
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