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Old 09-13-2017, 03:51 PM
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Please post your techniques for achieving amazing detail results!
Mini how to's or just tools you have made would be great.

I'll be posting photos of some new tools I've just made and tested to make rivet and screw surface details. I just tried the nose cone on a Yellow P-38 and it turned out great.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:00 PM
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Rivet tools
Made from brass tube and heated by a Top Flite Trim Seal tool. I looked around for a heating tool that wasn't as hot as a soldering iron and had a removable tip. This tool is pretty good for burning the rivets in the surface quickly.
If you make a variety of tips you can change them out on the fly while it's hot and keep going.
The dzeus style tip was harder to make but now I understand how to do it. Next one will be a Phillips head screw.
Mat first I soldered the tubes together but I needed very high temp solder to keep it from falling apart. Now I just drill a safety wire the assembly and so far that's fine.
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YA P-38 nose, 1/6 scale
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Rivet Tips version 1
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Reference books and photos are very important but it's easy to get confused. I suggest settling on one good source and sticking to it to maintain continuity. Know the subject well enough not confuse different versions of the same plane.

Another useful tool has been the Top Flite scale template because it has different scale rivet spacing templates. That's the only reason I bought this. Don't use it with the hot tool!
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:11 PM
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Aero Details #28 P-38 - out of print but a great series of books, just buy one if you see it don't hesitate.
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:35 AM
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The right cowl is basically done now
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:35 PM
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Got the left Cowl done last night. Setting my sights on the plane next and what a job that's going to be!

No no other builders willing to post on here?

No interest in this stuff?
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Its cool stuff. Can you give more detail on how you made the tips?
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Nice work Chris-the cowlings are looking good so far.
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@ C550
The tubes are just K&S tubes that are telescoped together but the largest one is the base tube. It's the tube that adapts them all to the Trim Tool. So they all end in different tubes which are the tips to make the impressions. I don't have the measurements on hand but something I do when I go to airshow she is take close ups of rivets on different planes with a plastic scale for reference.
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:24 PM
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Thanks! Wings are next and yes I do realize what I've decided to do to myself so no turning back now!
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I should add that you can see I have safety wired the tubes. That's because they get too hot for typical solder.
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More rivets...
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It goes pretty fast actually...
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Chris what kind of finishes are you burning the rivets into? Is this something that works strictly on paint or would it work on other finishes list iron finishes and metal laminates like AeroFoil and FliteMetal?
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This plane is all fiberglass with PPG paint and some Tamiya laquers. So it burns in with little physical effort just letting the tip do the work. On sheet metal, I have not tried these tips, you would have to press in the rivets to get the desired effect. If you have any vinyl type film or shrinking covering you would have to test it and see if it's good. Typically the building material like balsa behind a film will not produce a great result. The best way to go there is with a paint mask and airbrush to ghost on the rivets. Combined with a sharp tip marker you can get a nice look especially if you airbrush shading on panels to break up the surface.
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When I get to making a Phillips screw tip I'll post pics as I make it.
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Very helpful thread! I know about similar technique how to make rivets. The are not heated, but the brass tube is putted in some power drill like a Dremel. But there is no chance to make a screw head.
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Thanks Max
yes I know about the turning method too but I felt like it has less control over the final effect and too risk. This way you just touch the tip to the surface for a moment and move on to the next one.
I see guys draw out every rivet and line before making them and that too takes a very long time. I'm using the tape as a spacing guide and a straight edge to guide me. I found this works as long as you double check the measurements.

I hope more guys try this and post pics
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