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Old 01-09-2018, 07:15 PM
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Hoping to get a little warbird paint advice fellas,,

I have painted a few turbine jets, I have always used PPG base clear system with the ppg reducers and hardeners. I am very competent in painting planes, however my new project is different, I am having a buddy glass and panel line a TF P47 razorback for me, and I will do the paint. My other paint jobs have been high gloss, and shiney, except for one F16 I did 2 different sheens, the gray was a satin I obtained with a flattening additive to reduce the sheen.
The jug is going with the standard Olive flat color of the p47s with the gray underside, white on the cowl an white on the vertical stab. My question is what paint are you using, ( I will be using my HVLP sprayer) I have heard of some really good acrylic paints but not sure what others are talking about. I have no issues using modern paints, I am actually considering a single stage urethane paint on this jug, but wanted to get some input on what you guys are using, that looks good, lays down even, and is durable.

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I have painted all my war birds with Berh exterior latex paint top coated with Klass Kote flat clear. Home Depot sells small sample jars that they can custom mix to any color you want. I thin the latex with windshield wiper fluid which help it flow out and not fisheye. Here is a good article; http://www.vaillyaviation.com/docume...tspart1web.doc
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pkoury, Are you using the Klass Kote satin clear with the flatter additive when you clear coat the latex paint?
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Originally Posted by raron455 View Post
Hoping to get a little warbird paint advice fellas,,

I have painted a few turbine jets, I have always used PPG base clear system with the ppg reducers and hardeners. I am very competent in painting planes, however my new project is different, I am having a buddy glass and panel line a TF P47 razorback for me, and I will do the paint. My other paint jobs have been high gloss, and shiney, except for one F16 I did 2 different sheens, the gray was a satin I obtained with a flattening additive to reduce the sheen.
The jug is going with the standard Olive flat color of the p47s with the gray underside, white on the cowl an white on the vertical stab. My question is what paint are you using, ( I will be using my HVLP sprayer) I have heard of some really good acrylic paints but not sure what others are talking about. I have no issues using modern paints, I am actually considering a single stage urethane paint on this jug, but wanted to get some input on what you guys are using, that looks good, lays down even, and is durable.

Thanks fellas

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Sounds like a familiar scheme

Tips on how it was painted in this thread if you're interested
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...0-span-version

good luck
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scale only, thats the base scheme I am going with,,something about the white tail and leading edges just looks so good.

pkoury,, just standard house latex? It does not peel off?

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Ronnie,

I usually use PPG mixed to the specific color that i need for all of my planes. I will spray out a decent size paint chip using Model Masters paint with the correct FS# and have my paint shop scan it then mix it. I then also use the flexed and flattened clear that they sell
and usually all turns out great.
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Klass Kote seems to work well too. Weathering is next.
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Originally Posted by raron455 View Post
scale only, thats the base scheme I am going with,,something about the white tail and leading edges just looks so good.

pkoury,, just standard house latex? It does not peel off?
Latex with systems three satin clear,, No it doesn't peal off

Kingfisher was my first try with latex,,
Will it be good for another 15 years?
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This is Klass Kote over burnished Ultracote. I used the dead flat additive. I wet sanded w/ 2000 grit wet to break the lines and weather it a little. The star and bars are decals. I made stencils for for the lettering.
This is a Zeroli 72" bird I finished for a friend.
I shoot KK on all my pattern birds.
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Originally Posted by peter w h View Post
Klass Kote seems to work well too. Weathering is next.
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This is Klass Kote over burnished Ultracote. I used the dead flat additive. I wet sanded w/ 2000 grit wet to break the lines and weather it a little. The star and bars are decals. I made stencils for for the lettering.
This is a Zeroli 72" bird I finished for a friend.
I shoot KK on all mt pattern birds.
Nice work guys, I used K&B for years, Loved it but I can't spray epoxy in the basement,, wife would kill me,

Lots of ways to skin a cat,,, pick which ever works well for you

OK, lst of showing off for a while


ESM LA-7 From VQ Warbirds,, Rustolem rattle can again and latex on the bottom

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Nice work guys, I used K&B for years, Loved it but I can't spray epoxy in the basement,, wife would kill me,
The paint is bad but the reducer, well that's a different story. I shoot when she is out for the day and I can open up the house. I do run a fan that draws the fumes out my large basement window.
I have two vinyl cutters that I use for my masks. I now have a saved setup for the stars and bars.
On my Phoenix 8, all was done with stencils and home made decals.
Ironically, I shoot the colors in dead flat. It covers better and sands very well w/ 2000 grit wet to cut the edges. I then cover in gloss clear coat to seal everything.
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I use Home Depot exterior latex samples. You can take them the FS number of the color you want. Thin with windshield washer fluid. After its been on for a week I coat with matt lacquer. Works for me and is not expensive.
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I use Home Depot exterior latex samples. You can take them the FS number of the color you want. Thin with windshield washer fluid. After its been on for a week I coat with matt lacquer. Works for me and is not expensive.
Sir; are you using an airbrush? Could you simply apply the latex with a brush, after thinning with windshield washer fluid? And is it fuel (and nitro) proof? Thanks; Ernie P.
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I have an old Brinks air brush for small detailed work, such as the green mottling and exhaust stains etc. For the bigger areas I use a Badger model 400-2 touch up gun. The paint is fuel proof, but I have found the oil and gasoline will discolor the paint. The coating of clear lacquer prevents this. I lightly sand to arf finish with fine sand paper or steel wool, then use grey auto primer. For planes with a grey under side I just leave the primer.

I use a brush for small touch ups and to cover small hanger rash. I have been told there is an additive you can mix with latex that will prevent brush marks when you use a brush, but I have never used it an can't remember the name.

Harbor Freight sells a chinese copy of the Badger touch up gun for a relatively low price.

The good part of the latex is it is cheap, you can get in small samples, it cleans up with water, does not stink up the house and is not flammable.

Because latex, thinned enough to spray, can run, it is best to use two very light coats. I use a heat gun to speed drying and help prevent runs.

Here are some other planes painted with latex.
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Originally Posted by RBean View Post
I have an old Brinks air brush for small detailed work, such as the green mottling and exhaust stains etc. For the bigger areas I use a Badger model 400-2 touch up gun. The paint is fuel proof, but I have found the oil and gasoline will discolor the paint. The coating of clear lacquer prevents this. I lightly sand to arf finish with fine sand paper or steel wool, then use grey auto primer. For planes with a grey under side I just leave the primer.

I use a brush for small touch ups and to cover small hanger rash. I have been told there is an additive you can mix with latex that will prevent brush marks when you use a brush, but I have never used it an can't remember the name.

Harbor Freight sells a chinese copy of the Badger touch up gun for a relatively low price.

The good part of the latex is it is cheap, you can get in small samples, it cleans up with water, does not stink up the house and is not flammable.

Because latex, thinned enough to spray, can run, it is best to use two very light coats. I use a heat gun to speed drying and help prevent runs.

Here are some other planes painted with latex.
Sir; thanks for the details. I appreciate your response; Ernie P.
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