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Old 04-30-2018, 10:17 AM
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I put some more flight time on mine last Sunday . I removed the lip at the bottom roughly 1/4-3/8" at the lower portion. I have not hit rough enough for any compression of the springs yet. When I did a grass landing I could hear the grass hitting them as it went by.

One of the strut scissor's link bent under side load when taxing back to the pitts on the 4-5th flight ( dissapointment ) Being rectified asap. The plane is nowhere near as quick as friends 2blade gassers of the same size. But mine sounds "COOL" more scale and about 10lbs heavier. The 90 is still over temping after about 6min into the flight
Some say this is normal till its fully broken in, Im not sure I always try to keep the temps on 4stroke multi cylinders below 200f I am seeing 230f. So I climb pull back on power the glide down till the warnings quit. then keep going throttle consciously.

Love the door camber offset above ! Can you show how it is to operate?
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Originally Posted by warbirdfan2 View Post
Is this a new motor from UMS? Can't seem to find much info on it. Looks like it would be a perfect power plant for this and the corsair that TopRC is working on.
yes it is....Morris James is going to be the distributor and service guy for UMS. He is also running all engines before releasing them for sale. Iíll post some pics when I get the engine in. UMS is doing some cool stuff to their engines and Morris will be coming out with a new engine line built by UMS
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Old 05-01-2018, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by n8622t View Post

yes it is....Morris James is going to be the distributor and service guy for UMS. He is also running all engines before releasing them for sale. Iíll post some pics when I get the engine in. UMS is doing some cool stuff to their engines and Morris will be coming out with a new engine line built by UMS
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to seeing more on it.
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:13 AM
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Old 05-05-2018, 07:29 AM
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I wonder if this engine might come to Horizon Hobby as an Evolution engine?????
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Originally Posted by warbirdfan2 View Post
I wonder if this engine might come to Horizon Hobby as an Evolution engine?????
Horizon actually contracted UMS to build the evolution radials. The word is that Horizon offered no feedback to UMS regarding problems and would not allow changes to be made by UMS recommendations, so Horizon is ultimately dropping some or all of the evolution gas radials. Not sure about what the glow radials are doing with respect to Evo
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Old 05-05-2018, 10:10 AM
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Interesting..... It does seem as though Horizon pushes the Saito line more.
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DrScoles View Post
A few other observations that may help others. Don't put masking tape near the decals! Using low stick masking tape, still pulled them up...

I saw that Dave (wingspar) had to do some surgery to get the Sierra tail wheel in, I think Darrell may have changed it??? Mine was easy. Just had to prop up the top attachment on about 3/8ths of ply. It was a pain to run those cables once the tailwheel is mounted! Main gear went in easy as well with a little kit that he sells with it. Way to go Darrell!

I made spacers to get the prop on the EME 70 about 3/16ths off the edge of the cowl. I just completely spaced the distance, if you need it, I can measure... I think it was 46mm.

My machine guns turned out well. :-).
You have Darrell's Sist, Platt Models 1/5 Scale FW190 Tail Retract. Not the same tail retract. By chance do you have pictures of the main retracts and the add on kit? Wondering what little kit he sales, as with mine I'm going to need two 1/4" shims of plywood to make my mains fit. I'm still waiting on replacement parts for bad parts that came in the kit from TopRC ( 6weeks and counting).


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Old 05-07-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JFandL View Post
You have Darrell's Sist, Platt Models 1/5 Scale FW190 Tail Retract. Not the same tail retract. By chance do you have pictures of the main retracts and the add on kit? Wondering what little kit he sales, as with mine I'm going to need two 1/4" shims of plywood to make my mains fit. I'm still waiting on replacement parts for bad parts that came in the kit from TopRC ( 6weeks and counting).


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the mounting kit would be nice to see
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:10 AM
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Still waiting to see some video's of these birds; anyone want to share?
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Old 05-15-2018, 11:44 AM
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Little more progress on mine. Just waiting for a new rudder and I'll be ready to go. They had the decal on upside down... In efforts to keep the gear doors on the plane, I split them like the full scale. Designed a little block to mount the bottom half of the door.

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Looks good. I was wondering how you were going to do it. Did you change the paint anywhere?
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Originally Posted by LtMash1A View Post
Looks good. I was wondering how you were going to do it. Did you change the paint anywhere?
I guess if we need paint thereís always exterior latex 👍
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Spoke with Morris James and he’s expectin to get the UMS radials in his possession this week so I’ll pass more along as I get it
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I maidened mine this weekend. First flight was almost the last... One of the ball links on ONE flap cracked and popped off when I brought the flaps down... good times ensued. Flipped over and was heading in, flipped the switch fast and got control of it again. Went to my local field that has a very short runway, instead of my normal field thats over 1000' long. So landing on a 400' unfamiliar runway with no flaps on a maiden wasn't pleasant. Cut the motor about 20' up and dead sticked it, crisis averted. :-)

I looked at the 40mm elevator throws and was very suspicious, so I dialed it back a bit, still not enough. I have it at about 15mm now and it feels normal. At 35mm or so, it felt like it was on crack or I had the CG wrong.

Put Dubro 4-40 HD ball links on everything and went back out the next day. Two perfect flights. I pulled the flaps back quite a bit as well, and it still lands super slow. The factory rec is almost 90 degrees...

So, plane is a keeper, I would suggest swapping out the ball links.... ;-)

Video of third flight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4re...ature=youtu.be
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Originally Posted by DrScoles View Post
I maidened mine this weekend. First flight was almost the last... One of the ball links on ONE flap cracked and popped off when I brought the flaps down... good times ensued. Flipped over and was heading in, flipped the switch fast and got control of it again. Went to my local field that has a very short runway, instead of my normal field thats over 1000' long. So landing on a 400' unfamiliar runway with no flaps on a maiden wasn't pleasant. Cut the motor about 20' up and dead sticked it, crisis averted. :-)

I looked at the 40mm elevator throws and was very suspicious, so I dialed it back a bit, still not enough. I have it at about 15mm now and it feels normal. At 35mm or so, it felt like it was on crack or I had the CG wrong.

Put Dubro 4-40 HD ball links on everything and went back out the next day. Two perfect flights. I pulled the flaps back quite a bit as well, and it still lands super slow. The factory rec is almost 90 degrees...

So, plane is a keeper, I would suggest swapping out the ball links.... ;-)

Video of third flight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4re...ature=youtu.be

Thanks for the posting. Any down trim on the elevator with flaps down? Also, did you reduce the aileron throws from recommended?
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Originally Posted by DrScoles View Post

I looked at the 40mm elevator throws and was very suspicious, so I dialed it back a bit, still not enough. I have it at about 15mm now and it feels normal. At 35mm or so, it felt like it was on crack or I had the CG wrong.

Put Dubro 4-40 HD ball links on everything and went back out the next day. Two perfect flights. I pulled the flaps back quite a bit as well, and it still lands super slow. The factory rec is almost 90 degrees..
Agree,
I put my elevator at about 20mm, also moved the aileron to about 25mm mid-rate. This is where it felt Good to me. Left the ailerons at 30 for high rate..
Also I added 30% Expo on elevator 25% on Aileron and 20 rudder. I have 13% of down elevator when flaps are at full deployment.
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What Tim said David... ;-). I added quite a bit of down elev on flaps, just guessed and it seemed fine. Ailerons down too. The biggie was the flaps and elevator suggested throws.... no where near close and arguably dangerous.
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Good info, guys. Might save someone from a heart attack
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Originally Posted by TimD. View Post
Agree,
I put my elevator at about 20mm, also moved the aileron to about 25mm mid-rate. This is where it felt Good to me. Left the ailerons at 30 for high rate..
Also I added 30% Expo on elevator 25% on Aileron and 20 rudder. I have 13% of down elevator when flaps are at full deployment.
Tim, just checking. When you day elevator trim is 13%, is that what you set in Flap System on the radio? or 13 degrees down from level as read on a deflection gage on the plane? Thanks, Dave
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Originally Posted by LtMash1A View Post
Tim, just checking. When you day elevator trim is 13%, is that what you set in Flap System on the radio? or 13 degrees down from level as read on a deflection gage on the plane? Thanks, Dave
That 13% is what was added in by radio configuration. I took NO measurement from the stab/elevator itself.
Mine has been sitting for the past month. With Zero luck or reply about getting a scissor link end, Guess I will have to contact Darrell at Sierra and drop another $700 on gear.
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Originally Posted by TimD. View Post
That 13% is what was added in by radio configuration. I took NO measurement from the stab/elevator itself.
Mine has been sitting for the past month. With Zero luck or reply about getting a scissor link end, Guess I will have to contact Darrell at Sierra and drop another $700 on gear.
Thanks, Tiim
You could be waiting forever. I had the TopRc Gear and sent them back. I kept the tail wheel.The main gear is just too flimsy for that airplane especially if it gets side loaded. Darrel's gear rock solid and looks 100% better.
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Hi folks

Just found this thread and have enjoyed reading the various comments (and changes) that have been done to this kit. I received my FW190 in February and have the Robart gear "upgrade".... so I went searching for tips on installing the mains as they don's fit very well.... and here I am!

As noted, they bottom out on the top of the wing so as previously mentioned in this thread, I'll need to add some shim material. arghh! Stabs & Wing's done with the exception of the gear of course. I'll go through the pages and look for additional information.... some great stuff on here! Thanks everyone for posting!

Futaba S-bus, Saito FG-90R3, Keleo Exhaust

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hello
is the centering of the manual good? 166 mm
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