Giant scale STARTER
10-09-2019, 11:16 AM
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Giant scale STARTER
Aight people.... whas the best starter out there to start giant scale 100cc...85cc....60cc.....
pro,s.....con,s......
what are people using..... I need to get a good one...
thanks in advance......
pro,s.....con,s......
what are people using..... I need to get a good one...
thanks in advance......
10-09-2019, 01:02 PM
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Sullivan 24v starter with a Miller belt drive. I’ve also seen guys use cordless drills with the high voltage batteries, with a large Miller Cone. I don’t recommend using a starter on an engine larger than 60cc. If it is DA, you don’t need a starter if the engine is properly tuned. A DA will always start by the fifth flip after the choke pop. If not, something is wrong and a starter won’t help.
The reason why I don’t recommend using a starter on larger engines, is due to the forward pressure pushing the starter on the spinner. If it is an IMAC plane, the airframe is too fragile to hold tight enough pushing the plane into the starter. And the biggest reason is pushing the starter hard, slipping and falling into the running prop. I don’t like the sudden jolt of the starter on the spinner for the crank pins and holes.
Again, if it’s a DA, a starter isn’t needed, and shouldn’t be used. DLE’s will bite you if not properly tuned, so a starter on 60cc and less is understandable. And, Zenoah with a magneto needs a starter, because it is difficult getting the prop and magnets at the correct position.
The reason why I don’t recommend using a starter on larger engines, is due to the forward pressure pushing the starter on the spinner. If it is an IMAC plane, the airframe is too fragile to hold tight enough pushing the plane into the starter. And the biggest reason is pushing the starter hard, slipping and falling into the running prop. I don’t like the sudden jolt of the starter on the spinner for the crank pins and holes.
Again, if it’s a DA, a starter isn’t needed, and shouldn’t be used. DLE’s will bite you if not properly tuned, so a starter on 60cc and less is understandable. And, Zenoah with a magneto needs a starter, because it is difficult getting the prop and magnets at the correct position.
10-09-2019, 04:30 PM
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Thas some great info and outlook,s on why not to use a starter..... but on the other hand they make a big starter,s
so i guess they work.....provided the person has help holding the plane....i personally dont want to put my hand near carbonfiber prop on a DA120.....lol
i also have DLE 85cc 100,cc BME on a bipe....3 cy 60cc Saito converted to gas.... 60cc DA on a Giant Zero...couple DLE 55,s i dont really want to flip to start....if i dont have to
so i guess they work.....provided the person has help holding the plane....i personally dont want to put my hand near carbonfiber prop on a DA120.....lol
i also have DLE 85cc 100,cc BME on a bipe....3 cy 60cc Saito converted to gas.... 60cc DA on a Giant Zero...couple DLE 55,s i dont really want to flip to start....if i dont have to
10-09-2019, 11:13 PM
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I’ve been using a Makita drill!
Made an adapted cone with a hex shaft and I just use it like usual. Works great. Used on Saito 84, 90, 60 three cylinder engines, DLE 61 and many more. Much easier than anything else and more ergonomic plus it charges like normal.
I have the other starters like the big belt drive unit and the small gear drive one too. I modified them to plug into a 3S LiPo and they work OK but the LiPo packs don’t last as long with all the sitting around and then hard use. It’s easier to just use the drill which sees regular use so there’s no real pack maintenance.
Made an adapted cone with a hex shaft and I just use it like usual. Works great. Used on Saito 84, 90, 60 three cylinder engines, DLE 61 and many more. Much easier than anything else and more ergonomic plus it charges like normal.
I have the other starters like the big belt drive unit and the small gear drive one too. I modified them to plug into a 3S LiPo and they work OK but the LiPo packs don’t last as long with all the sitting around and then hard use. It’s easier to just use the drill which sees regular use so there’s no real pack maintenance.
10-12-2019, 02:42 PM
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Im sceptical that a makita drill will start my twin cylinder bme 100cc or my DA 125cc lol.... ive built my own starters for anything from 30cc and smaller i will post pics of them later when I get home.... im needing a starter for my bigger gas motors...
10-12-2019, 02:55 PM
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I am also not a fan of using starters on anything larger then 30cc. I have been retuning gas engines since 1997, everything from 50cc to 170cc and have never felt the need for a starter. I have attended close to 100 IMAC contests and have yet to see anyone get smacked by a prop. I have seen at least a half dozen warbird guys using starters on their G-62s and have the cup slip off the spinner and into the prop. A well tuned engine is very easy to start by hand, if you want to be cautious simply wear a welding glove. Once you have fired up that 120 a few times you will wonder what the big fuss was all about.
