The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
12-08-2006, 07:53 AM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
Specifications (Do 335 A-0)
General characteristics
* Crew: 1
* Length: 45.4 ft (13.85 m)
* Wingspan: 45.1 ft (13.8 m)
* Height: 15 ft (4.55 m)
* Wing area: 592 ft² (55.00 m²)
* Empty weight: 11,484 lb (5,210 kg)
* Max takeoff weight: 19,500 lb (8,590 kg)
* Powerplant: 2× Daimler-Benz DB 603A 12-cylinder inverted engines, 1,750 hp (1,287 kW) each
Performance
* Maximum speed: 474 mph (765 km/h)
* Combat radius: 721 mi (half load) (1.160 km)
* Service ceiling: 37,400 ft (11,400 m)
Armament
* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon
* up to 2,200 lb (1,000 kg) of bombs
From google
General characteristics
* Crew: 1
* Length: 45.4 ft (13.85 m)
* Wingspan: 45.1 ft (13.8 m)
* Height: 15 ft (4.55 m)
* Wing area: 592 ft² (55.00 m²)
* Empty weight: 11,484 lb (5,210 kg)
* Max takeoff weight: 19,500 lb (8,590 kg)
* Powerplant: 2× Daimler-Benz DB 603A 12-cylinder inverted engines, 1,750 hp (1,287 kW) each
Performance
* Maximum speed: 474 mph (765 km/h)
* Combat radius: 721 mi (half load) (1.160 km)
* Service ceiling: 37,400 ft (11,400 m)
Armament
* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon
* up to 2,200 lb (1,000 kg) of bombs
From google
12-08-2006, 07:59 AM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
And Another
Type fighter-bomber
Manufacturer Hawker
Designed by Sidney Camm
Maiden flight 1945-02-21
Introduced 1947
Retired 1955, FAA
Primary users Fleet Air Arm
Royal Netherlands Navy
Number built 860
So I Think that answers the wwII answer
Type fighter-bomber
Manufacturer Hawker
Designed by Sidney Camm
Maiden flight 1945-02-21
Introduced 1947
Retired 1955, FAA
Primary users Fleet Air Arm
Royal Netherlands Navy
Number built 860
So I Think that answers the wwII answer
12-08-2006, 08:39 AM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
Just putting together the Seagull Sea Fury model, It is simply awsome. Fitting it out with an OS 120 4stroke. should look go good. Addies did me a good deal on the complete kit Multiplex synth receiver, servos the works. arrived 2 days after the order was placed to boot.
12-08-2006, 02:19 PM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
I've gotten the WILLHOBBY version SEAFURY and it is a nice piece of work! Came with retracts and all. I'm fitting mine with a saito 150!! 4-blade apc and ROBART retracts. She will absolutly be a reno racer. It also came with BAD ATTITUDE decals...YES!
12-08-2006, 04:39 PM
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Fastest WW2 prop plane Like the orginial question DO-335
It did see combat--or at least avoided being shot down by a P 51--Pilot said he was on a flight and was jumped by a P 51--said he just advanced the throttle and ran away from the P51-pretty smart because the 51 would probably have eaten his lunch very easily
I have a 335 G-26 in nose and O S 1.08 in rear--the model is extremely fast-I just love it.
The hawker you mentioned built in 45 but was not used in combat and was introduced in 47
WW2 over 5-1945
Fastest WW2 prop plane Like the orginial question DO-335
It did see combat--or at least avoided being shot down by a P 51--Pilot said he was on a flight and was jumped by a P 51--said he just advanced the throttle and ran away from the P51-pretty smart because the 51 would probably have eaten his lunch very easily
I have a 335 G-26 in nose and O S 1.08 in rear--the model is extremely fast-I just love it.
The hawker you mentioned built in 45 but was not used in combat and was introduced in 47
WW2 over 5-1945
12-08-2006, 04:55 PM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
I will say GERMANY has always produced awsome technology...BMW M3 is my obsession! And they produced wonderful aircraft engines back in the day. We still have about 20 io540s that we train our AMT guy's on. Nice plane HELLCAT56.
12-08-2006, 06:37 PM
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Speed is relative; each fighter has a specific altitutde where it will acheive max performance. The TA-152H's best spee was 472 at 41000', while at sea level it's top speed was 350mph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152.
The P-47M on the otherhand, which was flown by the 56th fighter group at the closing stages of WWII had a top speed of 470mph at 30000', but could do 400mph on the deck:
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p47_12.html
The P-47M on the otherhand, which was flown by the 56th fighter group at the closing stages of WWII had a top speed of 470mph at 30000', but could do 400mph on the deck:
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p47_12.html
12-08-2006, 10:48 PM
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Hellcat, What an unusual plane. Did yu build it from scratch? Can one get a set of plans. I haven't seen it advertised as a plans kit or ARF. Would be very interested in this bird.
Cheers,
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Cheers,
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12-09-2006, 01:35 PM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
ORIGINAL: Swiso
Hi Peter !
Yes , the Ta 152 saw combat....here is a small report of a combat between Ta 152H and Tempest
http://hem.passagen.se/chla/stories.htm
http://hem.passagen.se/galland/Reschke.html
The Ta 152H is my favourite plane of WW2 , and i have many books about this wonderufl aircraft.
Interesting is the book "JG 301/302 Wilde Sau" written by Willy Reschke, the German ace of the fight above... , the Ta 152 is not treated in detail , only with some anectdotes , but at the end You find a list of all the aerial victories of JG 301 and 302...
Suffice to say that Willy Reschke valued the Ta 152H as his life insurance during those last months of the war....( his quote )
About the Do 335 , i agree with You that it was such an technological jewl , if You think at the situation of the German aeroplane industry at that time....being able to devlop , build , deploy such airplanes.... incredible !
Luckily , by beautiful they might be , they had not a decisive influence to prolong that aberration called war....
Best regards.
AA
Hi Peter !
Yes , the Ta 152 saw combat....here is a small report of a combat between Ta 152H and Tempest
http://hem.passagen.se/chla/stories.htm
http://hem.passagen.se/galland/Reschke.html
The Ta 152H is my favourite plane of WW2 , and i have many books about this wonderufl aircraft.
Interesting is the book "JG 301/302 Wilde Sau" written by Willy Reschke, the German ace of the fight above... , the Ta 152 is not treated in detail , only with some anectdotes , but at the end You find a list of all the aerial victories of JG 301 and 302...
Suffice to say that Willy Reschke valued the Ta 152H as his life insurance during those last months of the war....( his quote )
About the Do 335 , i agree with You that it was such an technological jewl , if You think at the situation of the German aeroplane industry at that time....being able to devlop , build , deploy such airplanes.... incredible !
Luckily , by beautiful they might be , they had not a decisive influence to prolong that aberration called war....
Best regards.
AA
Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks... that is so cool! [8D] Kurt Tank designed planes for Argentina and the United States after WWII. Personally, I think he was a Genius.
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12-09-2006, 06:23 PM
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The fastest single engine german lufwaffe airplane of WWII was the TA152H.
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero...ocke_ta152.htm
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero...ocke_ta152.htm
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
We will all have our opinions on who is the fastest and find alot of statistics to back them all, but it really came down to who was flying the aircraft and what the weather was like when they got the figures. As you probably already know, the sound barrier can be broken at various speeds depending on the weather! But it doesn't make any difference what you're in when you have a P51 or Spitfire breathing on your empanage. Needless to say ,you won't be there long enough to tell about it.
03-31-2011, 09:20 AM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
I'm intersted in the Seagull Seafury .
What is the ground clearance for the prop with the Wheels down ?
I'm interested in turning it into a Hawker Tempest and want to make sure I can get that big chin airscoop down there.
Thanks !
What is the ground clearance for the prop with the Wheels down ?
I'm interested in turning it into a Hawker Tempest and want to make sure I can get that big chin airscoop down there.
Thanks !
03-31-2011, 10:05 AM
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ORIGINAL: roydefiant
The fastest single engine german lufwaffe airplane of WWII was the TA152H.
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero...ocke_ta152.htm
The fastest single engine german lufwaffe airplane of WWII was the TA152H.
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero...ocke_ta152.htm
The C model, after all, had a DB603 engine, while the H model had a Jumo.
03-31-2011, 10:12 AM
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As mentioned above...
The ME 209 does hold some of the official paperwork on some standard speed tests of that era..its also interesting to note, it held it for nearly 30 years
http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/me209cd_1.htm
Not a warplane however..just a test bed...
The ME 209 does hold some of the official paperwork on some standard speed tests of that era..its also interesting to note, it held it for nearly 30 years
http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/me209cd_1.htm
Not a warplane however..just a test bed...
03-31-2011, 01:06 PM
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Hmm. The Ta152c could reach 753 km/h with MW50 booster at 10500mtr.
Ta152H had GM1 and MW50 booster and reached 760km/h at 12500mtr.
Ta152H had GM1 and MW50 booster and reached 760km/h at 12500mtr.
03-31-2011, 01:31 PM
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The official FW testing, according to my documentation, lists the 152C (fighter-bomber) with DB603E as 617kph at sea level and emergency power, 687 kph at max boost altitude with emergency power. 152H-0 at 10800m reached a max of 708 kph, but without GM1 or MW 50. No doubt the H-1 with the added performance boosters would do a bit better, but there is no record of any official testing with the additives that I can find. I would guess that service pilots would have used the stuff, but generally at much lower altitudes than the full boost altitude, so we really don't know how fast it was.
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03-31-2011, 01:53 PM
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
For single engine prop planes:
According to several sources the Republic XP-47J (a variant of the P-47 Thunderbolt) reached 813 km/h (505 mph) in testing, while the Supermarine Spiteful unofficially reached 494 mph (795 km/h).
The fastest Axis Single engine, was the Nakajima Ki-84, it had an average speed of about 400 MPH. It was followed second the German Focke-Wulf Fw 190.
Messerschmitt Bf109 379.38 mph - 1937 speed record
P-51 Mustang 437 mph
For Twin Engine Prop Driven Airplanes, the fastest in WWII was the German Dornier Do 335. It had a top speed of 475 MPH.
Jeff
According to several sources the Republic XP-47J (a variant of the P-47 Thunderbolt) reached 813 km/h (505 mph) in testing, while the Supermarine Spiteful unofficially reached 494 mph (795 km/h).
The fastest Axis Single engine, was the Nakajima Ki-84, it had an average speed of about 400 MPH. It was followed second the German Focke-Wulf Fw 190.
Messerschmitt Bf109 379.38 mph - 1937 speed record
P-51 Mustang 437 mph
For Twin Engine Prop Driven Airplanes, the fastest in WWII was the German Dornier Do 335. It had a top speed of 475 MPH.
Jeff
03-31-2011, 02:06 PM
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To Extra 230
Fastest WW2 prop plane Like the orginial question DO-335
It did see combator at least avoided being shot down by a P 51Pilot said he was on a flight and was jumped by a P 51said he just advanced the throttle and ran away from the P51-pretty smart because the 51 would probably have eaten his lunch very easily
I have a 335 G-26 in nose and O S 1.08 in rearthe model is extremely fast-I just love it.
The hawker you mentioned built in 45 but was not used in combat and was introduced in 47
WW2 over 5-1945
To Extra 230
Fastest WW2 prop plane Like the orginial question DO-335
It did see combator at least avoided being shot down by a P 51Pilot said he was on a flight and was jumped by a P 51said he just advanced the throttle and ran away from the P51-pretty smart because the 51 would probably have eaten his lunch very easily
I have a 335 G-26 in nose and O S 1.08 in rearthe model is extremely fast-I just love it.
The hawker you mentioned built in 45 but was not used in combat and was introduced in 47
WW2 over 5-1945
-Ed B.
03-31-2011, 02:19 PM
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I read once that the Alison mustangs were the fastest prop planes through the of the war, but only at very low altitude. I found that very interesting... given that the airplane was built in 1941, practically at the start of the war.
And lots of folks will say high speed at low altitude is worthless... but tell that to Tactical Recon.
And lots of folks will say high speed at low altitude is worthless... but tell that to Tactical Recon.
03-31-2011, 02:39 PM
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P-51 Mustang 437 mph
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P-51 Mustang 437 mph
Jeff
P-51 wusstang.
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RE: The Hawker Seafury was the fastest Prop driven plane
What about the P51 H? Does anyone have info on that one?? From what I read some place it would do 485 or more??p.s. actually the record says 487,just checked Tom
