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Old 01-08-2015, 02:45 PM
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Z yes mate I have Velcro across that lines up with the strap and that pack is as far forward as it will go. Same spot every time and can not move.

Yeah still light weight even with the additional, will give it a bit more penetration.
Programmed the ESC for brake off too so that will help with power off instead of a bit 4 bladed airbrake.

Bob thanks for the birthday wishes, yeah my mate Ron has 20 years on me and says the same things!

Hot, humid and a cyclone forming up North, too far away to cause us any grief though.

Back to work on Monday! Had a month off, glorious too.

I'm glad I found it too!

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Old 01-08-2015, 05:39 PM
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Oz,

I seen that earlier... I had a cranial rectal inversion at the time. I did miss wishing you a Happy Birthday. Hope it great and as you stated nice the little lady made it special.

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all good mate and thanks for bday wishes.


Not a lot to report. still far too humid to do any painting so 47 is on backburner till weather improves.

Vampire nearly done, just need to get the new 125A ESC - $$ tight till pay day.

Flew Corsair with the extra nose weight, flies nicer. Only flew once as the turbine boys were playing scramble launching 4 turbine jets at once so stayed put on the ground while they flaunted the 400ft AGL limits . . .

then it rained so packed up and went home.

back to working on the Cub repairs.

Pulled the heads off so I can check the valves and do a lapping on them.

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Old 01-12-2015, 02:50 PM
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Hi Pete I needed that. Didn't remember you had had bent the cub so I back tracked the thread and found a pic of it. not sure why but I don't get note's of postings some times from RCU, so you have the cub to work on and the 47. Nice pic of your Corsair.

My Dragon Lady is now 23 and is real tired, but still flyable and was thinking of an overhaul, But by the time I get my current repairs project are done (Corsair and weeks) figured the build season would be over. but santa was good to me with and ARF Extra-300 78" span, so I have been putting it together, while waiting for paint for the weeks and the weather to warm up a bit, Hi's for the last 2 weeks have not been above 20 and lows have been down to - 35 deg's with wind chills to 50 below, so staying in side in the shop to keep my sanity. Out only to go to work 4 days a week and one trip to the LHS for bits to put in the 300. Will take some pic's of the shop just to keep things going.

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Old 01-12-2015, 04:36 PM
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Bob,

yeah I pranged the Cub about 3 months back, dropped a cylinder on the OS FT-160 during climb out, tried to fly around the back of a largish gum tree to get back to land but hit the top of the tree, down it went on its nose from about 70 feet. Wings are intact but you can see the fuz damage.

All fixable. Just annoys me as I want to get onto new builds.


I have the heads off the engine and contacted an engine expert by name of Brian Winch, world renowned, you may have heard of him.

Here is what he advises to do:


"Yo Peter,
A sticking valve is generally due to a thin layer of carbon or oil varnish on the stem. Don’t use grinding paste unless you want to buy a new valve and head as it is too harsh for that job. Use a genuine Scotchbrite pad with some detergent and water to scrub the valve stem back to shiny metal. Use a bamboo skewer or round toothpick in a Dremel or other drill and spin it in the valve guide with a couple of drips of metal polish (Brasso etc). As it is spinning, move it up and down. Doesn’t take much to clean both items. Lubricate the valve stem with a drop of fuel (oil is too thick) and let it slide in the guide as a test to see that it is clean. Good idea, as you said, to not strip the engine down as they tend to get all upset for some time after. If it ain’t broke – don’t fix it is a good adage.

Let me know how you get on or if there is any problem."

I'm enjoying the corsair though it does have a few little problems with electrical connectors causing retracts to play up. Will get a can of electrical contact cleaner and give them all a good clean and hopefully that will fix that issue, if not I'll discard their connectors and fit my own. The model is delightful to fly, very easy to take off and land and does all manourvers with ease. Not overly fast with the big 4 blade prop but that is ok. Happy to fly around at half to 3/4 throttle and enjoy it.

Dragon Lady is a nice model and worth fixing up. I started the Cub in 93 and completed it in 2001. Astrohog was started and flown in 2001, took me only a few weeks from memory. My little Spitfire (Pica) is over 30 years old. The Mustang must be 20 years if not more, same for my 90" spit which I have not flown yet.

Sounds like Santa was good to you indeed, have fun with that model. Mate I really don't know how you lot can hibernate in artic condtions, I like the warmth! Mind you I am over the humidity and constant rain from storms. The yard grows so fast too. Had to mow twice last week as the grass had grown over 6 inches within 3 days. It will need a haircut again by the weekend.

Photo of our weather radar showing a few storms skitting about.

Will do some more on the Cub tonight after I have been for a walk.

can't do anything on the P47 for a while till humidty settles down, probably around March I would think.

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Old 01-12-2015, 05:07 PM
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Yes I know of him have read some of his advice on 4 stroks, and way back when I had problem with my G-62 in the first corsair, as I recall he was the one that but me to Ralph Coningham in Az for Zenogh engines.

his advice sounds like a plan.

I have not been kind to the Dragon lady has had the gear ripped out 2/3 times been in the trees about the same and my son went right through the side of a scotch pine and only a nick in the prop we all heard of go wack when in went through and could not belive it was still flying, and there is more for later, may just bench it in mid season for a job next winter as the engine will go into the 300 but have to waite for Lance a Bison to build another one of his custom mufflers to fit.

By the way the artic is about 500 miles north of hear and we seldom see 100 deg's and humidity just the way the world turns

Cheers Bob T

P S have not heard a word from Old Tom there weather has been similar but about 48 to 72 hrs after what we have so I would bet he is wholed up in his shop to or went south maybe.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:27 PM
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yup very knowledgable chap and quite funny too, he writes in our local RC mag, airborne. Has a lot of funny aussie style things to say.


I'll get some scotchbrite pads over the weekend and get the engine sorted, should be a quick fix. Needs a new prop too as the one that haqd been on it since 93 broke :-(



mate you haqve given that poor old lady a hard time indeed. treat her with some TLC now.



Maybe Tom turned into a Hungarian snowman?


Very quiet all around. Once I get the 47 test flown this thread will probably die off, it's nearly that now but we had some fun along the way!


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Old 01-12-2015, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_OZ View Post
all good mate and thanks for bday wishes.

Flew Corsair with the extra nose weight, flies nicer. Only flew once as the turbine boys were playing scramble launching 4 turbine jets at once so stayed put on the ground while they flaunted the 400ft AGL limits . . .

then it rained so packed up and went home.
Hey Mate, should be home this weekend if you can make it?

What jet scramble??? were was my invite? have to give those boy's some curry next time i see them...

And don't go throwing stones, your starting to turn to the dark side.......

Thanks

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P.S Brian Winch also writes for quite a few of the pommie R/C mags as well
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yes mate I should be around, you home Sat? Probably mid morning.

It was a good scramble, rminded me of my RAAF days when the larger formations of Pigs would depart Amberley. You will have to get the kero burner of yours down there, quite a lot of jet guys at TMAC now. Was a very nice L39 flown in a very scale manner too.

Yeah yeah I hear you about the dark side but given my background is electronic engineering it is a wonder I lasted this long. I still like my IC engines though!!


cheers big ears!

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Old 01-13-2015, 10:43 AM
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Been following this thread for a few year now, but when you brought up Brian Winch I just had to chime in. Haven't heard of Brian since RC Report we south, but sure do miss his articles. Is he still talking about his sidekick thats always up to something pretty silly? Pete, keep this thread going. How else are we yanks going to learn OZ 101?

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Old 01-13-2015, 11:07 AM
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Eathan

I have been trying to learn OZ sense pete posted the 101 list and it still give me the giggles and I do get most of it as it is a form of English aah

Cheers Bob T


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Originally Posted by CCFPILOT View Post
Been following this thread for a few year now, but when you brought up Brian Winch I just had to chime in. Haven't heard of Brian since RC Report we south, but sure do miss his articles. Is he still talking about his sidekick thats always up to something pretty silly? Pete, keep this thread going. How else are we yanks going to learn OZ 101?

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hi Ethan,
yeah he is a funny chap. He tailots his articles to the locale I would think. No mention of sidekicks here but he is always going on about his latest tech/tafe course ( technical college where you can learn the fine art of basket weaving) and giving his rather well buxomed teacher a hard time.

If you go into the airborne website and take a subscription out you can read the articles. I stopped buying the mag because it just became too full of ARF reviews that are all cut and paste with a few details changed - boring! BW articles were the only saving grace. He also has a segment calle the airbone engine-ear where he showcases the lastest gadgets and products as supplied by local importers.

He is a character!

I'm trying to keep thie thread going but would help if another GS P47 build would start. Seems everyone has gone to ARF these days and no one builds TF kits.

Its a shame as the TF kits were very good though the liberties with scale fidelity left a lot to be desired.

I am also a big fan of SIG kits.

I think until the cost of making ARFs in China and other flea pit countries goes past the profitable mark will we see kits make a comeback. I think about 5 years from now you will cost of ARFs get too high and we will wander back to our old ways.

Foamies will be the exception as cost to make one is very low compared to a normal ARF and they can absorb costs more readily.

Anyway we have a state election here in overcast and very humid Queensland end of the month with a choice between the resident LNP ( conservatives) and the ALP (socialists) with many fringe parties as well. Greens being one notable bunch of despotic rabble hell bent on giving all to bludgers and allowing annd those who want to behead us into our great land.

I have named the greens the watermelon party as they have a green facade with a red centre. the greens came out of the opld communist party, hence the nick name. Their polocies are pure far left wing socialisim. Even worse then oh bummer.

LNP are a coalition of the liberal and national parties. Liberal here is not liberal like you have. Here the libarals are sort of between the republicals and democrats though not that far to the left but not as right wing either, more centerist.

ALP was in powere here for many years and rang up huge debts, sound familirar? LNP swept into power with a huge majority and set to balance the books but did so far too quickly, sacked my of the public servants in very short period of time plus other costs cutting measures. Now they want to sell off/lease the major assets like ports and energy companies to pay off some debt. Huge quandry. Debt needs to be paid down but I don't agree with selling off major assets or leasing them. They simply get run right down, prices go up to end consumer and service suffers. the return is not a true refection of their worth and it is a political band aid at best.

So who to vote for? Dumb or even dumber! Bah lets all become anachists and stuff the lot of them! hehe

anyone who will stand up to the mecca crowd and get rid of them gets my vote.

my diatribe for the day.

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long live Oz 101
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:07 PM
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Hi Guys, yes still lurking the back ground although I haven't been on for a while.
First Seasons Greetings and a Very Happy, Healthy and Prosperous new Year to everyone.

Hey great shots there Pete of our day fishing, especially with the Old Wilga adding some interest.
Mate don't know about you but I got sunburnt and feel like snake peeling its skin at the moment.

Been doing a bit on my small P-47 a lot of work still to go.

Went flying again last week, still nervous, need a stack of more stick time.

Anyway once again Cheers Guys. Have a great 2015.
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hey D,
was good fun out fishing and that grunter bream put up a good fight. Did he taste good?

Wilga was very interesting, how cool to see a plane taxi past as you fish like that.

I did get burnt on the temples, chin and a bit on one ankle. All the places I missed slipping goop on.

Post some piccies of the 47 as it progresses mate.

Nerves, nah just get out and fly. I'm heading to Gratton field on Sunday with the P51 and F4U.

cheers
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Hi Pete and P-47 crew,
Yep was a good day out mate, the big Grunter and the Bream tasted Beautiful, just fell apart and sweet.
OK re the pics will try and take some over the weekend.
Currently satisfying (Nah Never "Impossible") the good lady wife as I am currently installing a swimming pool in the back yard.

A lot of very accurate work required! Any takers "Unpaid Assistants Appreciated".............................Yeah just I thought.

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Hay D

I would be glad to assist, but I afraid you would get me mixed up with the pile of debre as my buddies tell me I am older than dirt Rosemount is only about 10 miles west for me. upps that is rosemount mn sorry

Cheers Bob T
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don't tell me you are digging that hole by hand??
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not much too report except it is too friggining hot and humid.

Only flew the Corsair that is till one of the aileron connecting rods fell off!

1 retract would not work and the tail gear doors decided to stop working too.

Got 3 flights in with it though. Getting the problems looked into by supplier.

Did not fly the Mustang as it was simply too hot and I did not feel like it!

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Oz,
Pity the Corsair is giving you fits. That shouldn't be happening on that plane. I'll be interested to hear what is going on with it. I've been plugging away at rebuilding a Pica Spit that's wing has met it's demise. Not sure why I take these things on. Not to mention I'm working on trying to mount a G45 or G62 on a plane that was built for a Super Tiger 3000 or so. Interesting... been hurting the brain on occasion. Cheers to you and I hope the weather breaks so you can get out some.

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wing does not look too bad. I broke mine in half on my smaller Pica Spit a few years ago, broke at the gull where it is butt jointed. Glued it back together, opened up a 1/4" channel from about a 1/3 way out to opposing point on opposite wing.

Made a card template to get angles correct then made a ply spar and epoxied it in place. Filled over and painted. Invisible.

Picas spit are renowned for flapping in flight.

As for the engine forget those choice and consider an MVVS 30, loads of power and quite compact. similar in size to the ST3000


Agree on the Corsair, supplier has been advised so waiting to see what they suggest. Lots of little electrical problems. One of the landing lights has stopped as well, seems to be dodgy connectors they have used.

rain predicted for next 4 days. None yet so fingers crossed for Sunday. We have a long weekend as the 26th is Australia Day, our national holiday. Mind you the muzrats are demanding it be changed as it offends them. Everything offends those subhumans.

Foxtrot Oscar to them grrrrr
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Oz,

Thanks for the repair tips, pretty much confirms where I'm going with it. I have the rib templates made. Used a sacrificial piece of balsa and have them fitted. Just need to cut the ply ribs. My wing also relieved itself at the butt joint. So my buddy suggested the same as you have.... to add a ply spar to secure it properly. Just got a set of used Yellow Spitfire gear and they won't fit. My fault really so back to the shopping. Looking like Shindin or Spring Air are the kids for this. More to come.

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yeah the PICA Spit has a bad habit of letting go there. I have the 90" Vailly Seafury and it has same issue. About to build a new wing for it actually.

Just ensure you extend out to about a 1/3 of the wing half length and taper the new spar, dont have it ending as a 90 degree cut off, I tapered mine over about 3 inches from memory.


Buger on that gear. Spring air is ok, pretty much bullt proof, just get some functional oleos. You can fit robart restrictors in series with the lines which slows the down / up cycle a bit. I have that on my little Pica spit.

Hope it works out.



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Well we just had our national day Australia Day come and go for another year! Took off to the beach down Lennox Heads on Sunday after flying, glorious spot down there. Fish and chips up on the headland with the girlie while a storm rumbled in.

Couple of piccies

Weather is still horendous, humidity that is just so oppressive, almost as bad as leftwing censorship of free speech!

Anyway suffice to say nothing to be done on the 47 for a bit till weather is suitable for painting.

I did get the HK Vampire over to ticketec's place Sat arvo to set up the new YEP 120A ESC. Very happy with that setup and it seems to be putting out a lot more thrust then the old one.

Have to tidy up all the wiring and secure the ESC within the fuz yet. Few hours work once it is cool enough to get into the shed without dying of heat stroke.

Poor old cub patiently waiting too.

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Old 01-27-2015, 06:29 PM
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Beautiful pics Oz.

All I have right now is some snow covered ground with Dog turds littering it about. I really have had zero interest in the Hawaiian Isles with the exception to a visit to Pearl Harbor. But I still would like to bring the wifey to Australia for a visit. I find your country extremely interesting and rugged like where I grew up. Maybe some day. .

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