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Old 06-03-2015, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BOLTMAN
Good news re the foamy Corsair. So it should be all go for Bundy? I will have my foam Thunderbolt & Lightning there. We are planning on getting to the field early arvo Friday.

Mick

mick,
mate yes I have the new one and assembled it last night. Added the extra nose weight from the old one and did the mod to move motor forward 5mm. All surfaces are connected but not yet adjusted.

I'll fit the Rx tonight and do the setup. Have to do a little mod on the retracts as well.

Have 3 new LiPo packs that cost me a fortune, even at wholesle prices. Predator 6S, 5 amp. More compact than the HK ones but similar weight. Have to fit the connectors to them yet.

Not sure what time I'll get away, I have a busy morning Friday. Will do all the battery charging early morning, quick trip to Amart to grab a foam mattress then get everything loaded up. Hoping to be on the road no later then 1pm so should be up there just on darkl. Will have to print off how to get to the field as I forget

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Dave,
you won't be doing any drifting in that go go mobile!

Welcome to the yuppie AWD club :-)

Now start saving your pennies for servicing and tyres hehe

Get the Dora out and take up there :-)

cheers
P
Old 06-05-2015, 05:42 AM
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Pete has reported in as having arrived in Bundaberg for our warbirds weekend, if he does not freeze camping out at the field tonight we should be in for a weekend of warbird fun. Plenty of other campers already set up when I left the field this afternoon. The weather is looking pretty good although it might get a bit breezy.
Old 06-05-2015, 05:55 AM
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Good luck with the warbird weekend,, I hope it turns out to be a fun weekend for all. Post some images if possable
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It wasn't that bad. Sleeping bag and big dooms over and me and I was quite cosy. Watching star gate Atlantis on my iPhone 6 via Netflix for ambit of entertainment.

Now ow if you happen to be bring coffee I'll have a very large skinny late'
Old 06-05-2015, 01:02 PM
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He He He He He
Old 06-06-2015, 05:04 AM
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The Bundy warbirds turned into a Jug-a-thon



Weather was not too bad. Lots of flying and plenty of variety of other warbirds.
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:39 AM
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Bundy warbirds , saturday a bit windy but still lots of flying & lots of fun. Sunday unfortunately was pretty much blown out, with only a few keen / crazy flyers braving the wind.
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Pete's Mustang



My new Robart Jug



My composite 85" span Jug



Did I mention there were a few Thunderbolts there.......



Some of the other warbirds



All in all a good weekend.
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:44 AM
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good turn out of models and good to catch up again with you Mick & Helen.

Too windy for me so mine were hanger queens. Lost he FMS Corsair after it shook itself to bits, its fixable but very
Old 06-08-2015, 06:46 PM
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Nice group out there. Missing one P-47 by my account but that shouldn't be for long right Pete? Hell this thread is about as old as my daughter. I can't wait and your so close. Thinking of ya down under.

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Z,
yeah mate the straggler still on patrol!

Ok Corsair, my mate Ron came over yesterday and we checked the prop, one plade considerbly heavier than the other 3. Lots of sanding and I have a balanced prop and it runs smoothly.

Now consdering that these are essentially a PnP degin will just basic assembly one would expect prop to be balanced. Not in this case.

Wing is quite an easy repair, bit of epox and cut 2 small troughts to epoxy in some thin CF rod. Should be fixed by weekend then back to the P47.

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Old 06-09-2015, 03:53 AM
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Pete

All depends on how well the materials were mixed prior to and during injection, once worked nest to a small plant that did injection molded parts some time they would get more bed parts than good, I think it was mostly do to quality control, oh well that was a long time ago.

We have a fellow the is into repairing foames, and he does it quite well

Chreers Bob T
Old 06-09-2015, 10:18 PM
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yes mate and in the rush to get it ready for bundy I did not check it as well as I should. Should not have tried to fly it. Grrrrr
Old 06-13-2015, 03:55 PM
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Back in 2008 I got all of the stencils and spray masks for this build.

They have been sitting in a box ever since. Now I finally dragged them out and tried to apply the "hailess joe" image on the cowl yesterday without any luck. These are waterslide decals and when immersed in water the ink started to run and it crinkled up. I was supplied with 4 decals and tried 3, all of them stuffed up.

Perhaps these things have a shelf life? Has been 7 years after all.


I'll send supplier an email and see what they say.

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Old 06-13-2015, 05:20 PM
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That's the pitts, I have not done the water slides in a long time, but you will get it sorted out.

Cheers Bob T
Old 06-13-2015, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_OZ
Back in 2008 I got all of the stencils and spray masks for this build.

They have been sitting in a box ever since. Now I finally dragged them out and tried to apply the "hailess joe" image on the cowl yesterday without any luck. These are waterslide decals and when immersed in water the ink started to run and it crinkled up. I was supplied with 4 decals and tried 3, all of them stuffed up.

Perhaps these things have a shelf life? Has been 7 years after all.


I'll send supplier an email and see what they say.
Nope, they shouldn't have that short a shelf life at all. I have used commercial decal sheets (on plastic models that is) that were 15+ years old without a problem. well, at least not an age of product problem anyways. If the ink started to run, then that's the first indication that they clear they put on didn't cover the surface properly to start with.

Commercial decal makers use laser jet printing or even better screen printed for the colours. These will not run when wet with water. If the decal inks start to run like yours have, they were more than likely printed with a normal home inkjet printer. They can work ok, but you have to spray a clear coat over them to make sure that the water does not touch the ink for reasons already mentioned. I print my own at home because they are relatively cheap to make, i.e. about $1 an A4 sheet of decal paper, and then a few light coats of a clear spray bomb. if you paid good $$ for them, I would be a little annoyed. I have been burnt in the past which is why I do nearly all my own markings decals etc at home now.

Also, can't see from the pic there pete, but is the area where you are trying to apply the decal gloss cleared? and I mean a really glossy finish? water slides will not adhere to matt finished surfaces at all, and will tend to tear as you try to position them into position.

The correct way to work with water slide decals is,

1: Gloss clear the entire model if you applying a whole heap of them all over the place, or just the areas that they are going onto if it;s just one or two.
2: Apply decal onto the area once your clear is properly dry.
3: For best results gloss clear over them once they have all been applied.
4: Clear in the finish sheen level required for the model. i.e. matt clear for warbirds.


Thanks

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Dave,
so you have to clear coat them before applying? Seems odd. I've never seen waterslide decals that dissolve in water!!! I'm far from happy.

Might have to get you to print off some if possible?

Yeah I did pay good $$. You have used same mob before, not sure how you found them?

Anyway that aside I started doing the insignia and it went on very well till I realised I had the outline upside down, US insignia is not centre with the bars and I know this yet forgot to check!!! I was PISSED @#$!$%%^144134!!!!!!!!!

Anyway so as to not have rub it all off and repaint the wing I elected to use the decals that came with the kit. Handy save.

Have also painted the fin.

Pics to keep Bob happy

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Nice pic's . and looks like you will have it finished for your down under spring.

Cheers Bob T
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plodding along. All fiddly bits now.

I found a can of polyurethane clear and have sprayed the decal. Will try applying it in next few days. Hopefully that will prevent the ink running and cracking up.
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Just checking some real old water add slides I have seams the ink is on the underside and will not come off with out scratching it with a knife point.

but that is just me cheers bob T
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Originally Posted by Peter_OZ
plodding along. All fiddly bits now.

I found a can of polyurethane clear and have sprayed the decal. Will try applying it in next few days. Hopefully that will prevent the ink running and cracking up.
The spray can polyurethane clear I have found is solvent base, and although water clear at first, yellowed after a while. I have used Lucite clear gloss acrylic spray paint with good results. Or, water base polyurethane from the can. I hope your poly paint does not yellow on you, and that the formulation down under is different than ours. Good luck.

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thanks for that, I forget what brand it was but think it was a water based one.

I will put them on and see what they look like. If I am not happy I will have to get some more made.

Get Stencils have changed hands since I purchased them back in 2008. I did get a replay from the new owners who said they stopped using the waterslide decals because of this very issue. Seems a better production method would have been a better option.

They offered to do some on vinyl but at a cost!! What the? their product fails and I have to pay for a new one. hmmmm

What are the vinyl decals like? Is it a think folm or is it thick?
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thanks for that, I forget what brand it was but think it was a water based one.

I will put them on and see what they look like. If I am not happy I will have to get some more made.

Get Stencils have changed hands since I purchased them back in 2008. I did get a replay from the new owners who said they stopped using the waterslide decals because of this very issue. Seems a better production method would have been a better option.

They offered to do some on vinyl but at a cost!! What the? their product fails and I have to pay for a new one. hmmmm

What are the vinyl decals like? Is it a think folm or is it thick?
They should of sprayed the clear when they made them all that time ago.... how did yours work out in the end mate?

As for vinyl, it would be the same thickness as a normal sticker for a bumper or window. about 40-60mils thick depending on what brand material they use. find out if what they are currently offering you are digitally printed or just layered vinyl. if it's just layered vinyl, I can do that here. Printed onto the plastic media is the way to go, and it's kinda expensive equipment which is why they normally charge a fair bit for it.

Another option is to make up some spray masks and paint it on? back in the day before I had my own equipment I used Getstencils as well ( I think I put you on to them??) and I did the markings all as spray masks and airbrushed them on. I could help you do that on the '47. the work is actually in getting the artwork done for the stencils.

Thanks

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Well the polyurethane over hairless Joe decal worked. No ink run etc and it has gone on nicely. See photo.

The he kill markings though are printed on white paper though. Hopeless. They need to be printed on clear otherwise I have to cut out ever individual cross. What sort of an idiot would print that on white ?

dave I might get by with just some kills markings printed by you. Will have to pop over at some stage.

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have also applied the pilot & crew cheif detail dry rub transfer. Went on reasonably well.

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