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Old 07-08-2014, 01:22 PM
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Do the wheel wells accept 4.5 inch wheels or 5"??

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Old 07-08-2014, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vatechguy3
working on a parts list for a new build.
planning to go with futaba 9156s for the ailerons, elevators and rudder.
trying to decide between 3305s and 9156s for the flaps. thoughts?

also, does the robart control box come with the retracts, or is that purchased separate?

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I'm sure you mean 3306, as 3305 & 9156 nowhere near the same. 9156 has three times the torque of the 3305.
9156 would be great but a bit of an overkill. The rudder needs the biggest servo, somewhere around 180 oz., especially if you mix it with the ailerons as it works a lot then. I have burnt up lesser servos on the rudder.

The orange control box comes with the Robart electric retracts. They had problems with the early ones, mine was replaced free of charge by them.
Old 07-08-2014, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vatechguy3
Do the wheel wells accept 4.5 inch wheels or 5"??

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4.5", unless you want to grind away at the spar...
Old 07-08-2014, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Remaking
4.5", unless you want to grind away at the spar...
And ribs.
Old 07-08-2014, 04:18 PM
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Actually I had not considered the 3306s.
But they look good and are not expensive, but they do have nylon gears.

I was leaning towards the 9156s because I want to make sure I don't have any flutter issues.

Does futaba make the 3306s with metal gears?

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Old 07-08-2014, 04:19 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on the wheels, 4.5s it is.

Tony
Old 07-09-2014, 04:59 AM
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Hi guys

I have only had time to watch, to many family med problems but things are getting back to normal SO

flutter is NOT generally coused by a week servo, But buy sloppy linkage, and control surfaces that are not properly aliened or to much gap in the hinge lines are the most likely culprits, and when paired with one or more of these and a week servo you can have disaster.

IMHO you have to look at every point that can be the week link. Maybe we each need to make a list of the areas we feel need to be addressed during a build or the assembly of an ARF and post it.

Cheers Bob T
Old 07-09-2014, 11:55 AM
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has anyone considered or used the Tactic TSX57 servos for ailerons, flaps, elevators and/or rudder?

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Old 07-12-2014, 02:29 PM
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Hello All,
Having a problem with the dubro 2-56 ball & ball link the nylon ball won't stay on Oh by the way these are brand new. I should add these being used for the gear doors.
Does anyone have any ideas???????????
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Old 07-12-2014, 03:50 PM
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Are those the ones that the nylon part screws to the rod and pushes onto the small metal ball? I had a bugger of a time getting one of those to work for my tail wheel, turns out I wasn't getting it far enough on the ball.

Oh BTW, if there is any twist in its motion, it will pop off. Should be linear smooth all the way through its range of motion. I only use those now for something like a tail wheel steering link since there is no twist involved. I switch to the brass embedded ball and nylon links, more expensive, but they dont pop off when twisted any little bit, perfect for the wheel doors on my Mustang.

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Old 07-12-2014, 04:32 PM
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I would say the same George. Try squeezing it on with a pair of needle nose. Especially when there new there a pain to seat properly.
Old 07-13-2014, 05:18 AM
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Hay George

acdii is right you really have to snap them together (first time can be a *****) I generally push them join and separate a time or two before installing, but since I have gone to all gassers I am only using them on the gear doors and chock, every thing else is the captured ball type.

hope this helps

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Old 07-13-2014, 05:31 AM
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adcii

About the captured brass ball type, with a little ware they can pop off, So on control surfaces I add a trapping washer on both sides of the ball, don't ask how I know. just the way I do them now

Cheers Bob T

PS when building I have made double horns from G-10 material to trap the ball much like the new horns that du-bro is furnishing.

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Old 07-13-2014, 02:04 PM
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Has anyone tried to fit an eme70 twin with an on board starter?
It's looks like it should fit and the starter would be nice instead of lead.

Tony
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Double post.

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Tony

I don't have a clue on that engine, So what are the spec's, seeing I have all the engines I need at the present I have not kept up on the brands, but if it will swing a 22 X 10 at 7k or more, and your bird's total weight is not more than 32 lbs, I would say your good to go. Any more weight the wing loading gets a bit hairy. and electric start would be neet.

Cheers Bob T
Old 07-13-2014, 05:35 PM
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Thinking it should turn a 22x12!

With a dle55ra you need 3 pounds of lead to balance so a twin should be smoother!
It's 250mm from plug cap to plug cap.

Tony
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Originally Posted by vatechguy3
working on a parts list for a new build.
planning to go with futaba 9156s for the ailerons, elevators and rudder.
trying to decide between 3305s and 9156s for the flaps. thoughts?

also, does the robart control box come with the retracts, or is that purchased separate?

thanks
tony
if you buys the robart retracks electrics the box comes with everything else i did the 230$ conversion on a set of neumatics an it works great in going to do the same on my tf gs p-47
Old 07-30-2014, 06:09 PM
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After months, I finally finished the hardware (scratch building) for the gear door closer and with the doors installed to them I can honestly say that they work by manually
operating them,so with that being said I can only hope they will work with power,
SPECIAL THANKS to RT3232 (Bob) for all his patience in telling me how to go about it.
Thanks again RT.
George
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:43 PM
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George

You are more then welcome, and that is what this thread is about Helping one another. due you have any idea when you will get to maiden it ?

Weather hear still sucks so have not been able to get my 2 birds out.

cheers Bob T
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hi guy's has anyone tried the RCGF 60 cc engine. I just got one and was wondering how it is on power?
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:11 AM
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Not the 60, but I had other rcgf's that were good. Ran great with plenty of power and the price was descent.
Old 07-31-2014, 10:10 AM
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Hi John

Don't have the 60 so I can't really say, I do have the 62 and it is a screamer, have it in a 23 lb. weeks bipe and the only time I am using full throttle is for take off, till it gets on the step from then on it is half to three quarter's, It now has about 1/2 gal of fuel thru it so far, as I am flying it to break it in, I have it set, Hi needle 1/8 rich, Lo needle 1/2 turn rich so it drift's a bit at idle 1750 to 2K swinging a zor 22 X 8

Cheers Bob T
Old 07-31-2014, 02:18 PM
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Hey Guys , I just purchased the Top Flight Giant Corsair Kit, Although this is my first kit build I will be envoking the help of fellow club members and your help also. I am in the planning stages still and have a question about the power plant, I did a search but could not find a definitive answer, Will a DA 85 fit in this beast?
Old 07-31-2014, 03:54 PM
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Reefmonster, I think the DA 85 would be overkill on the giant Corsair Kit. When I built mine last year I put a Taurus 52 cc engine in it. It was more than enough power. And turned a 20-10 4 blade prop from TBM. You will be cutting away a good amount of the cowl. I have a DA-85 in my Meister P-47. So I know the size of the engine. The only plus is it would cut the amount of weight you would need in the nose. I needed 2.5 lbs. of steel powder to balance mine. unfortunately I lost mine on it's maiden flight. I'm assembling the ARF version now and have a RCGF 60 for power.
Keep your tail section as light as possible. That's all for now. John Taylor Corsair Brotherhood #96


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