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Ziroli F6F Hellcat Builder's Diary

Old 02-14-2006, 10:27 PM
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For any not in the know, here's a good tip. Use alyphatic glue on all the surfaces of the wing to be glued, then carefully place the cut sheeting on top and get an outline of where all the glue lines will be with the glue on the sheet when you lift it off. Then, use a foam roller to spread all the glue out very thin on the sheeting and rib and spar tops and let it dry. When each is dry put the sheet back on and iron it on. Presto..done. No pressure necessary. It's how I sheeted my Dora foam wing, learned it here on RCU...works great.
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This part looks pretty familiar now, and also looks like it's going to go quick. Should get close to having the bottom ready to sheet here shortly. I got a chance to examine the heat 'em and sheet 'em technique on the center section when I cut the flaps off it. Wow. Probably the best job of sheeting I've done, bonded everywhere, no runs drips or errors. The second wing I've done like this now, the first framed one and I'm sold completely on this technique. And you can sheet a whole wing in an afternoon. Strong too. Hopefully can get the wing completely framed and sheeted by around the weekend. Pretty exciting now. I love this part.
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Old 02-16-2006, 09:57 AM
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Getting some idea of the size of the wing now. Big. I couldn't believe how perfect the outer panel fits. Couldn't have been any better than it is I think. Nice and snug on the tube, but just the way it should be on this half. Should have the other panel framed later today and have a pic of the whole wing finally.
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Shouldn't be long on the rest of the basic wing construction now. Hope to get it sheeted tomorrow.
Sure does give you some idea of the size difference between a FW and the Hellcat at the same scale...what a beast this baby was.
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Old 02-16-2006, 08:24 PM
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so has Lynn come up wit ha paint scheme yet? Gotta see some pics of that.
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:04 PM
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Hi Tony!

Just today I made a decision. I'll bring the scheme to our Scale Meeting on Monday. I think it will interest you.....

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Old 02-18-2006, 01:54 AM
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Lynn, your such a tease manlooking forward to it.
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:30 AM
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With a big jug 'o CA arriving at my house yesterday, I got to lay out the upper wing sheets with a template via Dave Platt method. Figured this would be a little easier since the wing is sheeted only to the back of the flaps, whence they get cut off and sheeted separately.

Should have the basic wing build done later today, with just the appendages like control surfaces, tips, doors, and bellypan then. I'll get some pics up of the whole wing later on today. Should be able to get the beginnings of the fuse going tonight. I'll save the control surfaces on the wing for later....wanna see that fuse now, and I can only cut parts when my wife's not home!!![X(]
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Old 03-09-2006, 03:51 AM
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What CG point are you guys flying them using? Did you fudge it a bit either way? Change the flying habits?....
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:03 PM
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Finally a shot of the whole wing together . That's not the joints on the wing that are gapped, there's just string attached to them so I don't lose the wires in there so they don't go all the way together right now...no worries there, they fit fine.

On to the fuse [8D]

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Old 03-14-2006, 07:01 PM
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I love doing this part and the stringers..... Hope you guys like the fancy crutch support technique....K.I.S.S. for me there.[8D]

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Old 03-14-2006, 10:09 PM
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:55 PM
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None of the stringers are glued in yet, just there for some support. I put some c/f cloth on the spar between F10 and F12 and also added some 1/2" x 1/16" hard c/f bars hysol'd to the formers inside of the crutch spars. I'm thinking I'll add the c/f cloth to formers 10-12 as well which should pretty much take care of any concern of shearing or breaking forces in there.
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:29 PM
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I love hellcat but always thought I was kind of alone
Just look at the number of HITS this Hellcat post is getting
Great infomation
Keep them coming
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:02 PM
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No problem there. Have to break a little for some glue dry time now, so here's a start on the c/f cloth layups on the formers. I'll have to mount the tailwheel blocks on the former first. before going much farther on it.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:52 AM
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Shouldn't need the c/f cloth, but nothing wrong with a little extra support!

Wow, it looks good so far. If I can convince my web master to do it, mind if I use some of these construction pics on my web site?

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Mace, use whatever you need, no problem with that at all. It might not need the c/f treatment in full, but Nick suggested himself that this area is prone to some weakness, and that maybe reinforcing it is a good idea. My thought was just to try to distribute some of the force that F11 --which the tailwhweel mounts to-- thru one former in either direction. One things for sure, after testing out a little "flex test" this morning....it made a pretty big difference between F10 and F12 in the stiffness there.

I figured doing stuff with the c/f cloth and bars is an easy way to keep any reinforcement respectively light. Looking at the way the tailwheel and stab mount areas on the plan, I just kind of cringed that if she were nosed over, this would be the spot anything cracked off at---hence a little safety measure.

Should be able to get the tailwheel in and some more work putting stuff on/in the fuse later on today.
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Decent progress today. Got the motor box mostly in there, cutting a new box from 1/4" aircraft ply vs. the 1/8 ply that was stock. Should be able to get everything finished on the inside tomorrow and have it fully ready to plank.
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Chuck said it well when he came by yesterday...."Man, now that things got some character.".
Probably one of the prettiest fuses I've seen in this state. Really nice plane Lynn. No problems whatsoever in the fuse construction. What did it take, like 2 or 3 days to do this much? Liking Ziroli kits more and more. I'll fiddle with it some more in some spots before the dreaded planking.
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Nice work. IMHO you can't beat a Ziroli build.
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Got started on the planking/sheeting last night. Going from side to side and up and down equally to avoid any tendency to pull in one direction unevenly. Funny when I put the first sheet up to side....It was like when I was a kid on the farm and my Dad would send me out to cultivate the hundred acre plus fields (back when cultivating was still a necessary evil before chemicals did it all). I would take that first pass with the 4-row cultivator and think........Man this is going to take a while!! Thought that feeling was over [X(]....guess not.

I'll just keep at it doing some each day now. Probably about 1/3 done now. It won't look like much till it's done and sanded, so I'll save the ugly shots and post when it looks worthy of the effort. Getting some idea now of the finished fuse look and cool factor is pretty huge. We should be in good shape for when I get the engine from you pre-Toledo Lynn. By next week we'll have a Grumman production house with all 3 on their legs for a shot in the driveway.
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Great Mike! I'm looking forward to the visit. I have another box full of parts and engines that I'll bring with me. You're going to need to clear some more space in the building room......(lol) I found a source for the stainless steel flex exhaust pipes that we will need to plumb the mufflers, offset as they are.
Also have some more reference pics for the RN paint scheme. And I've manage to dress up a BBI RAF pilot to a very credible RN kit.
Oh! And I've been corresponding with Carl at Solo Props. He has super looking F6F pattern Hamilton Standard flying props. A 26" 3-blader is gonna' look GREAT!

regards and Happy Building!

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Lynn, you'll have to forgive my honesty when I say I'm developing a little 'love affair' with your Hellcat here, especially since I walked into my house this evening to find the big paint box from WarbirdColors on my doorstep!

Man, this was the right choice from what I can see of the paint swatches on the tops of the cans....More importantly, what a FANTASTIC selection of colors and contrasts now that I can see what they spot out like next to each other. This is going to be one unbelievable plane. I took out the pic of Nick Jr's plane again, and thought, "wow, this is really going to something when it's done"---all the sky on the bottom--and the contrast between the two upper colors is super. Chuck Graves did an excellent job on the other stuff too as the roundel blues and reds are the most accurate matches I've seen on these colors. There's just so many colors that are unique and blend well, the white and blacks, etc..

I can post the shot of Nick Jr's plane up for anyone who hasn't seen it, but not sure that's the exact one, but colors I think are similar it appears.
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Just to show you a different paint job
This is not a Zirolli but an 80 in holman
I will start on my Z hellcat this summer
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Lawrence,

I went back through the thread last night and looked again at the beautful 'cats you guys have posted on the thread here. I particularly like the job done on your marking paints. They've got a nice washed look to them on the finish rather than being sparkling new....very effective job on the paint.....same for the earlier one built by Sean....really beautiful.

I think I am going to "pull rank" though and keep the scheme a bit of a "secret" once I see how it will fully be......I can tell you one thing.....it's one neat scheme. We'll get to posting it eventually probably down the road whence it's painted and all, but, will keep scheme and painting pics part of the "contest secret" until way down the painting road for it as no need to give away what other guys might be competing against with this thing, and that way if another twin happens to show up for it someday, it will be totally by chance.

Chuck and I are doing our FW 190 A versions in similar schemes, but planes are from the same squadron from the two top aces in it, and we'll fly together, so that doesn't really count.
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