KMP / YT FW-190 Build Thread
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Hi irocbsa a I would love to hear about your maiden. I have flown mine now a few times now with all that weight an I'm sure I have way to much in the nose. It flew very nose heavy. I was adding so much weight to gain only mm in cg forward. I believe I could have removed almost 1 kg in weight and it still would have flow ok. I have retired the fw for a while. I had a hard landing and ripped the gear out. I firmly believe I had it far over weight. I tried to get it too close to 130 ish when I'm sure this thing will fle at 145-150mm cog. I have the composite model. I was adding 50g per mm to move the cOg forward.
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Hello to all friends, after some time of inactivity, i started the build of my model again! One reason I quit the building was that I wanted to collect some money to order a pair of better retracts. Those that I get from the Chinese they worked well and seem very robust, at least on the bench that I've tried.I just wanted a better brand to inspire more confidence. So it became, ordered by Lado the new series the RS333 74 degrees so i have finally the scale result on struts! After contacting him, he assured me that I will not have any problem with these retracts and can comfortably withstand the weight of my model. He also told me that has given many of those retracts for thesame model and that for years had no problem! So I was convinced and I ordered and am now waiting for their arrival!
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Hi Harris, with those LADO retracts you should be OK, they work very well on mine! What I did do is to connect them to my receiver via a Y-cable. Before I had them on seperate channels on the receiver.
Never figured out why but it happened to me that after retracting one leg was up and the other still down!! Very bad situation. Then when I put the retracts down one went down.... and the other went up! Still only only leg out. Then I switched a couple of times with the result that both were out! Coming in for the landing one went up again! Disaster. In the end I was able to time the landing in such a way that I touched down just when both were out. Hairy experience! So use a Y-cable.
Volkert
Never figured out why but it happened to me that after retracting one leg was up and the other still down!! Very bad situation. Then when I put the retracts down one went down.... and the other went up! Still only only leg out. Then I switched a couple of times with the result that both were out! Coming in for the landing one went up again! Disaster. In the end I was able to time the landing in such a way that I touched down just when both were out. Hairy experience! So use a Y-cable.
Volkert
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Hi Harris, with those LADO retracts you should be OK, they work very well on mine! What I did do is to connect them to my receiver via a Y-cable. Before I had them on seperate channels on the receiver.
Never figured out why but it happened to me that after retracting one leg was up and the other still down!! Very bad situation. Then when I put the retracts down one went down.... and the other went up! Still only only leg out. Then I switched a couple of times with the result that both were out! Coming in for the landing one went up again! Disaster. In the end I was able to time the landing in such a way that I touched down just when both were out. Hairy experience! So use a Y-cable.
Volkert
Never figured out why but it happened to me that after retracting one leg was up and the other still down!! Very bad situation. Then when I put the retracts down one went down.... and the other went up! Still only only leg out. Then I switched a couple of times with the result that both were out! Coming in for the landing one went up again! Disaster. In the end I was able to time the landing in such a way that I touched down just when both were out. Hairy experience! So use a Y-cable.
Volkert
Hallo Volkert thank you for your tip, i am using Y cable and not separate channels and they work just fine. I haven't airborne yet but i will next week.
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I was flying hammerhead stalls but it got quite windy in the end of the day. When I got into the stall the plane was flipped horizontal and got into a flat spin out of which I recovered too late. The plane got barely flying when it hit the ground.
Anyway, I ordered immediately a new ESM FW-190 so now the question is which scheme to put on it. I liked the Rote 13; possible alternative is below. Open for suggestions! I am looking ideally for a plane that flew here in the Netherlands, IV/JG-1 flew in Berlin at that time so in principle does not qualify!!
Anyway, I ordered immediately a new ESM FW-190 so now the question is which scheme to put on it. I liked the Rote 13; possible alternative is below. Open for suggestions! I am looking ideally for a plane that flew here in the Netherlands, IV/JG-1 flew in Berlin at that time so in principle does not qualify!!
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Hi all, I dug my electrified version out of the garage (it had not flown for a few years),and it flies as well as ever. Here is a movie shot by my mate Bob. Cheers, Al
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WphqiepMkEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WphqiepMkEg
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Airfix, very nice flight!
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Airfix... Nice smooth flight. How did your cameraman manage to stay with you zoomed in so close??? Could you tell us about your electric setup? Motor, battery cell count,esc, prop?
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Thanks for the kind comments :-).
The aircraft uses a Turnigy 6364 230kV motor with a 21 x 13 APC 2 blade propeller, a Turnigy Sentillon 100 Amp opto ESC, and 8 cell 5000mAh battery (2 x 4 cells in series).
All up weight is 18.5 lb, and no ballast was needed to get the CG. The batteries are on a ply board which slides down on rails fitted on the front of the firewall in between ali stand-offs. A rectangular hatch was cut at the top rear of the cowl for battery access/removal. The motor is mounted to a ply mount on the standoffs to get it in the right place.
I posted some pictures way earlier in the thread.
Yes, Bob is pretty good with the camera, we practise a lot together so he knows pretty much the routine I will be flying, which helps a little.
Al
The aircraft uses a Turnigy 6364 230kV motor with a 21 x 13 APC 2 blade propeller, a Turnigy Sentillon 100 Amp opto ESC, and 8 cell 5000mAh battery (2 x 4 cells in series).
All up weight is 18.5 lb, and no ballast was needed to get the CG. The batteries are on a ply board which slides down on rails fitted on the front of the firewall in between ali stand-offs. A rectangular hatch was cut at the top rear of the cowl for battery access/removal. The motor is mounted to a ply mount on the standoffs to get it in the right place.
I posted some pictures way earlier in the thread.
Yes, Bob is pretty good with the camera, we practise a lot together so he knows pretty much the routine I will be flying, which helps a little.
Al
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Airfix thanks for the pics on your battery placement. Forward of the firewall is always more problematic but I am finding that is the only way to get this bird to balance without adding weight. The instruction set I have suggests an AUW of 12 pounds and I'm at 17 now with two 5s, 5000mAh lipos plus seperate receiver and separate retract packs. It also gives a single 130cm COG from wing root and not a range up to 145cm as stated back on page 25 of this forum. I have installed the Gen4 electric retracts from VQ. They are heavy and they work nicely but the doors bind so I'll have to fine tune the door mounts for an exact fit that doesn't bind. One hard landing and they'll need to be readjusted/remounted. Also the VQ4's have a separate controller which has a nice convenient test button but also seems to have a proprietary wiring scheme from controller to RX which does not follow the standard servo wiring of signal, positive, negative. I hope VQ's wires aren't actually crossed and will still work in a standard RX. We'll see. I am going to scrap the installed Hacker C50 14xL inrunner which is too bad as I love the turbine sound the Acro gear box creates. I'm turning the 3 bladed prop option for scale realism over power. The Rimfire 50cc on wide standoffs will have more power, 12s capability, more weight forward and the standoffs will give room for the lipo ahead of the firewall like Airfix's. I do hate the idea of cutting the top of the cowl as I am not practiced at cowl cutting. Perhaps I'll have a hatch on the bottom. I guess I'd use a dremel with a cutoff blade for cowl cutting; any suggestions?
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Hey everyone, this thread has been asleep for a little bit. I am considering getting one of these models. I am currently wondering how much torque I will need for Ailerons, Elevator, Rudder, and Flaps. I am also debating on the engine. OS33, DLE 35 Evolution 33, or EME 35. It seems that in the 35cc range that most need weight on the nose still.