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Old 01-21-2008, 01:38 AM
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Have been doing some fiddling around this weekend. I was looking at the cooling vents for the wing. They look ok, but I think I will scale them up, give it some relief to make it look more realistic. I glued the alum spar to the plywood insert. This will slide into the wing, and is epoxied in place. Just checking for fit right now. The starboard wing was not cut deep enough so I needed to remove 5/16th of an inch for a proper fit. A hacksaw blade made this an easy task. I hope tomorrow I will have a little time to do at least one wing, just need to make sure it is aligned well, so the sheeting will be flush with the fibreglassed part when it is attached.

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Old 01-21-2008, 03:19 AM
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man you are screaming through that thing!
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:23 AM
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Just pluging along. I am trying to do at least one thing per night. Tonight I epoxied the spar into the port wing, and I plan on doing the starboard wing tomorrow.

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Old 01-22-2008, 06:56 AM
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well I have just spent last 2 nights setting up our new Vista based PC and migrating all of our files, favourites, emails .dbx files etc etc

Thank goodness we have an ethernet hub and can network both boxes.

Just a few programs to install on the new one and I am done, then I can get back to building!
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:57 PM
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I just took Vista off my computer.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:16 PM
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man you are screaming through that thing!

He's working fast to stay warm



Nice build, Looks like she is falling together.

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Old 01-22-2008, 05:52 PM
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Geez Craig, You make all that look so simple I might pull my Hellcat out and start doing something, other than looking at it.
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:06 PM
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Hi Craig,
Very nice build. I have had 5 of the Byron Corsairs and everyone flew great. Just a heads up. When you get to gluing on the stabs Byron only has a small spar piece at the trailing edge and the rest is butt glued to the fuse. This is a weak point and is prone to breaking or flutter. I glue in a 12 in. piece of 1/2 in. aluminum tubing that spans both stabs and is glued against the ply bulkhead where the tail retract goes. This makes the stab bullet proof with very little weight. In essence it's a front spar.
Just a thought. Good luck with the rest of your build.
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:04 AM
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Hi Craig,
Very nice build. I have had 5 of the Byron Corsairs and everyone flew great. Just a heads up. When you get to gluing on the stabs Byron only has a small spar piece at the trailing edge and the rest is butt glued to the fuse. This is a weak point and is prone to breaking or flutter. I glue in a 12 in. piece of 1/2 in. aluminum tubing that spans both stabs and is glued against the ply bulkhead where the tail retract goes. This makes the stab bullet proof with very little weight. In essence it's a front spar.
Just a thought. Good luck with the rest of your build.
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Craig,
I don't mean to hijack this thread but I feel that Fred has a great suggestion and I needed some clarification. If others are building the same kit they may also have the same question; so I decided to post it rather than a pm.


Fred,
The Corsair I am finishing for my buddy had the stab already attached. After reading what you did, I would like to also do the same. However, the bulkhead that the tail retract unit mounts to is about 1 1/2 inches or so (I didn't measure it) in FRONT of the leading edge of the stab and the linkage for the rudder torque tube is on the AFT side of that former lwhich will impeed the aluminum tube. Did you add a couple blocks of wood glued to the bulkhead and then glue the aluminum tube to those blocks? Or am I missing something?

Thanks!

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Old 01-23-2008, 01:34 AM
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Great input. I was actualy reading the instructions for the horizontal stab this evening. I was concerned with the butt joint and only the 1/8 plywood at the rear tying it all together. The other issue that I was having was finishing the stab before I attached it. Not the rivet stage but the glassing and sanding, just before painting. Sure would be easier before it is attached.
Don't even worry about hyjacking this thread. The more input the better, and I am learning as I go. Some clearification is also needed on my end regarding the set up with the 1/2 inch alum tube. I am concerned with it not aligning properly. I was planning on using a robart tail wheel retract on the corsair, putting it in the scale position, therefore rejigging the linkage hook up. I dont plan on attaching the rear fuselage until everything is done as it is much easier to get at.
I glued the starboard spar into the foam wing tonight, and sheeting will be next. I intend to sheet the whole wing, which is a change from the instructions.

Thanks for posting guys, and the heads up for some possible problems ahead

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Old 01-23-2008, 06:09 AM
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Hi Les and Craig,
The fix I stated can be done after the stab is glued and aligned up if you prefer. I believe there is a 1/16 0r 1/8th ply former between the tailwheel bulkhead and the end of the fuse. The tailwheel retracts in the middle of it. This is where the aluminum tube glues to. If the stab is attached already I cut a 1/2 in slot on the bottom of both stabs and a slot in the bottom of the fuse, slide the tube through, apply epoxy, and imbed the tube into the stab. The middle part of the tube should be in contact with that middle bulkhead. I then glass that part to the bulkhead. If that bulkhead is not there simply run some lite ply or balsa from side to side in the fuse and sandwhich the aluminum spar between them. When all is dry, I cap the tube in the stab with 1/2 in balsa sheet , reglass the slot in the fuse,and finish as normal. You will be able to stand on this stab when it's finished. LOL. I hope this clears it up for you.
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:21 AM
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Fred, thanks for the explanation regarding the 1/2 in tubing. I will think about this for a while to see what method will work best for me, not to sure at this point. I was also thinking about maybe using some 1/8 ply, and make the support spar that would go through both stabs and the fuselage close to the front. Just kicking around a few options.

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Hi Craig,
Whatever you decide will work and give the stab considerable strength. The main thing is to support the front of the stab . I was always suspect of butt gluing the stab to the fuse. Good luck with your build , I'll be following it. Your doing a great job and you will have an awesome looking and flying Warbird. Check out my Dave Boddington Hurricane build on RCU Warbirds Forum if you get a chance.
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:39 PM
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Just checked out your Hurricane thread. That looks like a great project, with lots to do.
I need to work on the sheeting for the wing. I must go get some more sheeting as the kit only has enough if you do the ribs as it was fabric covered in some area's. I want to do the complete wing. I have also been looking at the wingtips, getting idea's for the lights. I will have to do these before I attach it to the wing tip.

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Hi Guy:
Does anyone know were to get belly tanks and pods for the Byron Corsair

Thanks,,, Dave
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:49 PM
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I just took Vista off my computer.
well it is ok I guess, very memory hungry, we have 4GB on board it is uses about 1.5gb just idling along doing SFA.

wife likes it so don't want to go rocking that apple cart any more then I normally do [:-]
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I made up the sheeting for the wings. Six pieces of 3/32x3x24. Gave them a light sanding, they turned out well. I managed to sheet the bottom of the wings this evening using probond wood glue. I have them stacked on my bench with my scroll saw as weight. I used the probond on my lancaster and it worked realy good. I had one piece that began to delaminate before I glassed it, so I ran a hot iron over it and it re adheared itself. I will let it sit in the foam shucks until tomorrow evening. Run it through the scroll saw and remove the excess. I hope to do the top of the wings tomorrow night.

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Took the wings out of the shucks tonight, cleaned off the extra balsa, and sheeted the top, put them back into the shucks. I will leave it sit at least 24 hours before I remove them. I also cut out the 3/8 firewall and will mount it to the front ring using 6 bolts with blind nuts.

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Installed the Firewall. I first marked out the hole locations on the firewall. Situated it in the centre location on the end of the fuselage. Taped it into location to ensure it did not shift as I drilled out the holes. Started drilling with a 1/16th bit all the way up to 1/4. Removed the firewall and opened up the fuselage ring to accept the blind nuts. Placed the firewall back on, and slowly tightened the bolts so the blind nuts are in position. I am happy with the way it turned out

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Old 01-25-2008, 04:12 AM
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luverrly work mate
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Craig,
Where'd you get those flat head bolts?
I don't recall ever seeing bolts like that.
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I picked the bolts and blind nuts up at Home Depot in the bolt section. They have different lengths and I have used them on a few of my aircraft. They work real good and I also use a washer with them. Here is a pic using them to attach my G-62 to the firewall of my 1/3 Pup.

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Craig,
I think I mis-interpreted the bolts in the picture.
I thought the bolt heads were very wide (about 1" ) but I'm now guessing that those are actually washers under the bolt heads and the bolt heads are just 'normal' size.
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I think the heads are 1/2 an inch. Just use the washers for more surface area. I also use a lock washer between the bolt and large washer, just for piece of mind. When they are secured I put on a verticle line with a marker, so I can do a quick visual inspection to see if they have moved.

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Craig, love that shelf bracket to hold the cowl on in the Pup
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