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    Electric Byron F-16 Build

    This is a model that I bought 10 years ago NIB never started. It has all the options that Byron offered at the time. I done the basic setup and installation but never finished (Photo 1). It will not be converted to a kero burner as I have already been down that road and am sick of all the crap that had to be taken to the field for a quick flight. I am looking at doing it in electric power as the hi-power 90/91 fan engines are NLA, or I can buy two to three flight packs for the same price. I will be replacing the elevator control with separate mini digital servos, as well as the rudder servo (also mini digital) will be fitted where the original elevator servo was installed, I am also looking at fitting the Hitec HS-125MG servos in the wings replacing all the Byron control stuff (Photo 4) The Rohm retract gear will be replaced with up to date gear that will work and won’t leak (Photo 5). Lots of other little changes we will see on the way.

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Looking good Ghost!,

    That F-16 Fighting Falcon is looking meaner then real ones in photo 1...hehe
    I do believe in KISS (Keep it simple silly), but doesn\'\'t mean my models fall in this category!
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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    hey that's a great title for a thread you have there

    all the best with your build and let me know if you needs any bits as I have access to all sorts of nice things.

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Thanks guys.

    Peter I will keep that in mind. A lot of stuff I will make myself. Being a retired machinest/tool maker making parts don't cost me anything other than time. If I don't do it today, I can always do it tomorrow.

    It may take some time as its been 6 years since I done any thing on it. Peter the elevators will be put away and will do the second set that I have and I will pick the best two out of them.

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Hey Ghost,

    Good to see your build here too look out for those HS-125MG. i discussed these with a gliding mate of mine and he said they have a shocking report on the forums. really bad centering, even the digital versions of these.... shame really, because i also wanted to use them on my Byron f-16.

    thank

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Hey Ghost, i have an Byron F-16 hanging in my family room that I did in 1990 and flew for a while. got tired of replacing head gaskets in the OS .91 and those darn header pipe connectors. I will be watching your progress with the electric change over with thoughts of doing the same with mine.

    Regards,
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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Done a bit of thinking last night(I know, it hurt)[8D] I am already changing the elevator to seperate servos, so why not loose the ailerons altogether and go with elevons. The elevators are a very large surface and I can only see that maybe the roll rate may be a bit slower. Any ideas?

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Orignal Ticketec
    Good to see your build here too look out for those HS-125MG.
    Dave, I might not use them at all if I change it to Elevons

    Orignal gary9648
    got tired of replacing head gaskets in the OS .91 and those darn header pipe connectors
    Gary another reason why I am going electric.

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    I have also been toying with the idea of going just elevons, but then you loose the ability to use the aileron as flaps and then be able to slow the model down even more.... never mind the "digital, or not to digital" question that i haven't made my mind up about.

    I have been bogged down with work and other commitments with mine so you a racing ahead of me with yours

    Thanks

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    what about the JR range of small digitals?

    much better quality
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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Orignal Peter OZ
    what about the JR range of small digitals?
    Thats all I was going to use. Did not know that JR made a 10mm thick servo for the wing.

    Orignal ticketec
    I have also been toying with the idea of going just elevons, but then you loose the ability to use the aileron as flaps and then be able to slow the model down even more....
    Not really worried about supper slow flight.

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Has anyone looked at the elevator(flying stabs) to compare them. I have two sets and one set is almost 1/8" thicker than the other. I know that Byron had heaps of moulds, just wondering weather one was a mod for a weak flying surface.

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    You know I'm flying my cermark F-16 on electric power and it goes Really good

    I'm about to test fly my new Tam A-4

    this plane will go great on E Power go search the other site in the EDF jets fourms
    right now Bruff is converting a byron mig

    I know there is a conversion for the byron fan

    But I'm really sold on the Schubeler Fans : http://www.schuebeler-jets.de/

    I'm running the DS-94 in both of my planes and they work very good and sound really nice

    PM me if you need any help at all

    There is also a new fan called the TF 8000 it's a drop in replacment for the Byron fan but has 28 pounds of thrust it's wicked and not cheap..lol
    Heres a link make sure to watch the video of it in action : http://www.ductedfans.com/Turbo_Fan_...edfanscom.html

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Hey pete,

    Can you PM me through some prices for the JR thin wing servos?

    Thanks

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build


    ORIGINAL: ticketec

    Hey pete,

    Can you PM me through some prices for the JR thin wing servos?

    Thanks

    Dave

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Thanks pete, you were right they are a little pricey

    Looks like the few items i have put up for sale on ebay are going to be sold so i should be starting to order the bits and pieces for mine.

    The best prices for hitec servos are at troy built models. They have the HS-5645 digital metal geared servos for $45 if you buy a pair of them! they are .7" thick so they should fit into the wing too. that's the cheap price i normally paid for the non digital ones (HS-645).

    thanks

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    thats good buying!
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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    I've managed to get some time with the 16 today and finished removing all the old paint. It was a fair bit of work in the end! Now i'll have to start applying the filler to all the ding and dents.

    Hey Ghost, have you got retracts installed in yours? i'm trying to get my hands on a set for mine, but might just buy a set for the flymodels f-16. same sized model and the retracts, oleo's wheels and brakes come as a set and are worth about $450. I would like to know how they were originally fitted, but what i would especially like to see is how the nose wheel is mounted? do you have any pic's of your retracts installed, other than the oes post above?

    I've emailed iron bay about 1/2 doz times now to get a replacement canopy with no reply other thna their initial response that it would be $45 inc shipping[:@][:'(][:@]

    thanks

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    ticketec,

    The original retracts were mounted on thick wall formed aluminum brackets. The brackets were bolted in on the lower shelf of the fuse and the retracts mounted on those brackets.
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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Hey Ghost, have you got retracts installed in yours?
    Yes it has. Can't load any photos as I am away in Bathurst seeing my daughter. Will be back home on Monday. Dave it looks a lot better now that all that crap paint work has been removed. The orignal builder did not wash the fuse before painting by the looks and left the mould release on it.

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Back home again, and ready for a sleep, 6 hours in a car.

    Update, flying stabs covered. Photo 1 ready for glassing, photo 2 glassed

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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Dug the rudder out. A few dings that need repair before glassing.

    Has anyone that built these models noticed that the moulded foam cores are made of different foam. Some sand easley while others are rubbery.


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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    surprised they don't get sheeted first????
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    RE: Electric Byron F-16 Build

    Don't sheet them, They were directly covered with a low heat film in the day,(in instructions,unglassed, Black Baron or Econokote) wanted to be a bit stronger as well as not being able to get the low heat film any more.

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