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Old 05-16-2018, 12:20 AM
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Hi,
A question to the list. At the moment I am studying the Avenger plans and notice that on Sheet 6 wing ribs # 6 and 7 (the main connecting tube hole) has an oval crossection rather than circular as with the other ribs. Is this to make adjustments to the dihedral angle when connecting the outer wing panel to the wing centre section? BTW my plans have REV G printed under the sheet number. Would this be the latest version?
Thanks for your help.
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Old 05-16-2018, 02:52 AM
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Reuben,

You are correct. The holes are cut oblong because W6 and W7 will be set at an angle (64 degrees) relative to the wing tube.

See some of my early confusion and work to overcome this confusion here:

Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

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Old 05-16-2018, 03:26 AM
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Rueben - Give "Noah" your fullest attention. He is the corporate knowledge on this build. Him, Larry, Peter, etc. all got me through questionable areas on this build. I still have questions that these guys are there to ALWAYS answer. Hey Navy, have you started working on that Invader yet? Chic
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Chic,
Looking great brother. Can't wait to see the first coat of color.
Sat on the tarmac for over 2 hours on the way back home yesterday, a 5 hour flight turned into 7
Was gray, dreary and rainy the ENTIRE time except for when we headed for the airport yesterday, go figure
Have to order a larger battery for the Avenger, for a strange reason which is above my paygrade, one of the elevator halves is slower coming back to neutral than the other. My friend from NY thinks with all the servos and gyro that the 2000MA isn't pushing enough power
Back to the Trojan today after the daughter leaves

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Glad to hear you are safely home Brother. Chic
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Thanks Noah and Chic for the information. I will take a look at the earlier builds but it takes quite a lot of time to read the whole 3000+ valid contributions made. Am trying to see whether I could locate the possible unclear parts of the build and try to fix them before laser cutting. BTW would REV G plan revision be one of the latest versions of these plans?
Thanks guys. Much appreciated.
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Rueben,
Here are some pix of Charlie's build CD, hope they help

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Thanks Larry - I remember using the same items to set that angle. Ready to install the Power Expander and Throttle Servo. Chic
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See Everyone on Monday, heading off to N.C. for my God Child's graduation from college. It is that season. Chic
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Chic,
Safe travels
Love the muffler and we should have used a power expander but who knew, would have made the wiring much easier...
What engine is that and I love the fact that you can actually see the carb unlike our DA85 where the carb is nestled inside the motor box.

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Chic, I haven't even pulled her out the trailer yet. I actually had to leave again after returning from TOPGUN and I spent what time I have salvaging what I think I can reuse from the avenger. I really what another but I just don't know when I will have time for another build. I have to leave again this weekend for work and return on the 31st just in time for Fredericksburg.
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Here are a few more shots taken by david hart at top gun.
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Carl,
Just magnificent, sorry for the loss

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Chic
You are really doing some wonderful work. At WOD you WILL be a Star!
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Stop It Bob - Before I frame you and keep you with me. Carl - looked like a wonderful flying airframe. You haven't told us how well it flew on the flights before the accident. Gotta love those photos. Again, Carl, great color scheme. One more God child graduation (Bucknell) Sunday, then back on the Avenger. Rain forecasted all next week. Chic
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Sorry, it flew amazing which is why i want another one. You will definitely enjoy flying it. I used about 10 degrees of flaps on takeoff and it rotated on its own. It was very stable and easy to land as well. Theonly down side id she dont like flying dead stick. If you lose you motor get the nose down aggressively to keep the airspeed up. Thats one thing i think i could have done differently.
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Noah - I certainly put your recent post on gluing two pieces of 0.010 G10 together for the landing gear doors is right on point. Slow as I am, I epoxied the pieces together and will trim them to size in the morning. Always appreciate your corporate knowledge on this build. Attempting to clear up the rat nest in the back of the bomb bay area. Ha, Ha. Chic
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Hey Larry - How is that T-28 coming along? Working hard on this bird, I pray I get it finished by mid June otherwise I won't make the Nats... Chic
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Drying well, will clean up, trim, and set mounting holes and install wooden supports tomorrow. Then prime and prepare to paint. Chic
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Chic,
You are moving right along!! good job!.
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Hey guys,
I was talking to Brett Kellogg about buying another avenger kit and he notified me that ziroli plans will be distributing the Avenger now and he will still be selling the skyraider.
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Hi Carl,
By any chance did Brett also mention as of when will the parts will made available from Ziroli? Thanks for the info.
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Looks great, Chic. Bob is right, you are powering your way down the home stretch!

Excited to see it in full paint.

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Chic,
Beautiful work, forget about trying to clean up the rats nest of wiring, I tried 3 or 4 time. Got it better but just waaaayyyyyyyy too many wires, having the gyro seems to help a bit with the wiring but it's still a mess when you get to the receiver..
You may want to think about getting EDR-102 One Click Multi Connexfrom Electro Dynamics, makes plugging wing servo leads much easier.
Waiting for new receiver battery so I can finish buttoning up the Avenger.
Here's a pix of the balancer I built, when Avenger is on it the bottom of the wheels is only 1" off the ground, should have it balanced next week depending on my friend schedule.
Can't wait for the 12 page spread in Model Airplane news about WOD and YOUR Avenger
Take care guys

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Noah, do you have anything to bring to Warbirds Over Iowa this year? Here's some photos of your Avenger the last time you were there.


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