RC Warbirds and Warplanes Discuss rc warbirds and warplanes in this forum.

Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

Reply

Old 09-07-2018, 05:35 PM
  #3376  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

I need that, I need to know you are still there with me. Appreciate it Noah. Know that you, Larry, and that Army Colonel are important to me.. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2018, 05:07 PM
  #3377  
lkahn4
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 925
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Okay guys, don't everyone book their flights and rides at the same time HEHEHE
https://www.rockymountainwingcaf.org/
lkahn4 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2018, 05:23 AM
  #3378  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

It would be kool but Larry, I don't have $750 for that TBM ride. I am sending Shirley and daughter on a 14 day trip to the "Med" in a week. I am going to be broke for a loooooong time. Then you asked me to take her credit cards away so I can CG the Avenger in "Her" house, now you want me to spend money on an airplane ride in a TBM which isn't the TBF that I am building. Do you want me beat half to death by two crazed women? I thought we were "Bros". Ha, Ha, Ha. Temps are coming down but rain is forecasted all week. CG????? I can't win for trying. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2018, 05:41 AM
  #3379  
lkahn4
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 925
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Chic,
Problem solved, she'll be gone for 14 days, what's the problem? LOL
Get Ranger to come help you, buy him a steak at Ruth Chris for his trouble and Shirley will be none the wiser, just trying to help a Bro out!!!!!
If I could convince the wife I'd do it in a heartbeat but alas she's thinking of taking the entire family to Italy next year, guess I'll have to get another part time job
Turns out there is another Planes of Fame Museum here in AZ, only 3 hours away but even that will be a tough sell as I just spent 2 days in the hospital and she now has me on an extremely short leash (about 6")
But at least the rivets progress on the Trojan wing, should be ready to start gluing by Tuesday

P.S. If you balance in the house DO NOT take pix

Stay well brother
lkahn4 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2018, 11:18 AM
  #3380  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Ha, Ha - Say what Larry - buy Ranger a steak, he is on the west coast. Smile. I'll buy myself a steak at my favorite house, Ruth Chris, for sure. My Brother, you are killing me, I can't stop laughing. I know the first lady can not be that hard on you. Heck, you are working 5 jobs, giving her all your money, working outside in the heat. She is tougher than Bootcamp Training Instructors. Smile. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2018, 12:38 PM
  #3381  
lkahn4
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 925
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Chic,
put the girls on the boat and hop out to see Ranger and if it's not too far I'll join you HA!!!!
Shirley went have a clue and I would never tattle as long as you spring for the steaks 😁😁😁😁
only working one job for now, more if I need to help fund the trip to Italy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lkahn4 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2018, 01:13 PM
  #3382  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

I'm broke, not going back to work, and I told them, don't call for more money while there. I won't answer the phone. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2018, 06:44 PM
  #3383  
Ranger1-00
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: FT. Belvoir, VA
Posts: 65
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Chic, tell the girls I hope they have a fantastic time! I wish I could get out there to help you with the final instal of all the major systems and the CG. Keep at it. Iím sure itís going to turn out amazing!
Ranger1-00 is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 04:29 AM
  #3384  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Hey Colonel, will pass on your thoughts and wishes. Hope they do have a wonderful time and she said to tell you, "Hope everything is going well with your Girls, and she missed all of us going to the Japanese Steak House." Many thanks. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 05:12 PM
  #3385  
Kinner
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ladson, SC
Posts: 348
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Took a while finding the file but here it is. The rescued TBF/M that the caretaker let me have at for some pix. I mentioned a morse code keyer and found them. The first one is just to the right of the radio/bombardier panel. to the right of the trigger in the turret.

Interesting to note that the aux air slot fwd of the ailerons were attached to a hinge strip. Was it adjustable. The task was to increase aileron efficiency at low airspeed high angle of attack associated with landing.

Ray W

Kinner is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 05:16 AM
  #3386  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Hey Ray, very Interesting Set of Photos. Especially the Hinged Strip in front of the Mailbox Slot, Is It "Adjustable" - to widen or narrow that slot. Besides shooting the turret gun, we now know the gunner might also need to be qualified in Morse Code. Thanks Ray
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 05:29 AM
  #3387  
Kinner
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ladson, SC
Posts: 348
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

I've other pix if interested. Latest pictures on the Deland NAS museum show remarkable progress. This museum got this project from other museums who gave up on it. Looking at the old bird, I wondered if this short staffed crew could manage. Looks good.
The engine is an old worn slam out issue to replace the corroded one that couldn't pass a compression test for sure.

We've a TBM in the Yorktown and , if I can ever remember, to check on those slots and piano hinge and confirm. I'd do it Thursday but the storm has preempted everything. City and surrounds are closed down tight.


Ray W
Kinner is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 05:40 AM
  #3388  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Hey where are the spark plug wires? Smile. Great photo Ray. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2018, 05:41 AM
  #3389  
Kinner
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ladson, SC
Posts: 348
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Kinner is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2018, 08:14 AM
  #3390  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default



OK, the mid section flaps are installed and functional. Sooooome progress.
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2018, 08:57 PM
  #3391  
Ranger1-00
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: FT. Belvoir, VA
Posts: 65
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Nice! Looking good Chic!
Ranger1-00 is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2018, 04:15 AM
  #3392  
butlern
My Feedback: (15)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Iowa City, Iowa (again!)
Posts: 1,545
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Outstanding!!
butlern is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2018, 04:25 AM
  #3393  
Kinner
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ladson, SC
Posts: 348
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

I'm running out of words. Most unique treatment. Ought to be an award for "Not Your Ordinary Livery"

Ray W.
Kinner is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2018, 04:33 AM
  #3394  
lkahn4
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 925
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Chic,
Just looked for my dictionary for more words to describe your build, only one I can come up with is Speechless
Great work my friend....

Larry
lkahn4 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2018, 06:07 AM
  #3395  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

All of you "GUYS" are a Blessing. Thank You. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2018, 12:00 AM
  #3396  
F86_SABRE
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Malta, MALTA
Posts: 1,505
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default Grumman avenger

Chic here is what I found today which ma y be of help.
Reuben
Attached Files
F86_SABRE is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2018, 03:49 AM
  #3397  
redtail
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,339
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Reuben - Thank You Brother, "ALL" information is very helpful. Many thanks. Chic
redtail is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:42 PM
  #3398  
butlern
My Feedback: (15)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Iowa City, Iowa (again!)
Posts: 1,545
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

Chic, I don't think Robart lists those gear anymore... they used to be found under the Gear Finder tool, and the F7F was listed under CBA Models. Not there anymore.
butlern is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:45 PM
  #3399  
butlern
My Feedback: (15)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Iowa City, Iowa (again!)
Posts: 1,545
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

I should say that Steve Keesey and Boyd Maser have my old F7F... and my old landing gear, naturally (maybe even some extra mains or an extra nose gear).

If they're not using them (i.e. have no plans to use them again), you should reach out to Maser.

Maybe Boyd will see this message if he still checks in on this thread now and then.

Noah
butlern is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Today, 06:37 AM
  #3400  
Kinner
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ladson, SC
Posts: 348
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default

An update on TBF wing details. The Yorktown re-opened Tues and I got these pix shortly afterward of the "mail slot"detail forward of the ailerons.

There was no piano hinge on the Yorktowns wing slot. I have no explanation except the Deland TBF had been passed down through a few earlier entities that,for what ever reason, were unable to complete the resurrection. Maybe an early attempt at some modification?
Anyway , this TBF came to Yorktown some time ago. I remember it sitting on the dirt parking at Charleston's FBO waiting for a lift. The rear turret was removed and the ASW gear and crew member in it's place. In time, a turret




became available but the Yorktown's bird only has the glass bubble and makeshift gun barrel.

Interesting to see the larger air intake vs. the narrow upper slot. A neat way to capture and accelerate the airflow at low speed high angle of attack applications. Kept the air sticky and adhering to the wing surface to make the aileron work better.
Kinner is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service