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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Larry, sent you a PM with email... but whatever, here it is: noah.s.butler@gmail.com

    All the best,

    Noah

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Noah,
    Thanks, i NEED TO SEND IT TO MY OTHER EMAIL.. HOPE THE FLYING HAS BEEN GOOD

    Larry

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Meandering around on the net looking for "stuff" and found this.   Nothing notable but it is Avenger related so I'll stick it here and y'all can meander with me.

    http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...-the-Navy.aspx

    The Guppy modification I remember well.   In my youth, my Dad was stationed at MCAS Miami and there were  a few of the radar modded planes.   The rear turret removed and the radar operator station was in it's place. 

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Cool, Ray!

    Thanks for sharing.

    Jim, are you finished? Balanced and taxied yet?

    Keep us posted!

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Although I am working on it, I will not be ready to test fly for some time. Kids activities always get in the way.

    Jim

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Jim
    The Avenger looks great. I love the paint job too. We all look forward to video of the maiden flight.
    It is interesting reading your info on painting. I have had about the same experiences and ended up doing pretty close to the same steps with the same equipment as you describe. The PPG store recommended a gray high build primer called Shop Line JP202. A quart of primer with hardener costs about $32. It is enough for two coats. I have switched away from the PPG finish paints to Klass Kote epoxy paints. Klass Kote costs about the same as PPG. It is available mixed in Federal Chip colors and does not need a clear coat since it is epoxy.

    I have been really busy finishing the Beech and working on re-habbing a Vailly L-19.

    Charlie

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Hi Guys,
    As always, I am going to school off you fellows. You guys are great teachers. School is back in, especially now that Jim has painted his Avenger. Another lesson learned. After reading both Firebar and Jim's write-up, I will probably follow Firebar on the paint with Klass Kote. Will practice on the Bird Dog that I too am re-habbing. Starting on the 2nd wing panel of the DAWG. Stay well everyone. Chic
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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Peter
    I while back you were looking for trailer suggestions. I too got a trailer this summer and after a lot of reading of posts on how to configure the plane hold down I came up with this. I used a 3" x 3" angle iron mounted to 2" x4" wood vertical supports. The angles are bolted to the 2"x4"'s with lag bolts. I velcro the landing gears to the angle iron. So far it has worked out great. By adding 2"x4"'s at different locations and moving the angle iron, I can reconfigure for different planes.
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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    That Skyraider really fills the hold.  Good for the folding wings.

    By chance, anyone reading has a lead on some swing hinges for the Avenger or other Grumman planes. 

    Some years ago, I was at an model flyin and a young fella had a large Corsair built from plans (don't remember which plans).  Even thow it had fixed gear, the wings folded up as the prototype.   He designed the hinges from round bar stock.   Mearly pull the wings out from the center section about an inch which revealed the hinging and the wing just lifted up to the stowed position.  Sure fit in his van much easier.

    I dream about some kind of mechanism to keep the Avengers wings folded up.  

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build



    Sorry for the double post. Anyone know how to delete a message by chance?

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Charlie,
    Great idea, the Skyraider looks great in there. Chic, as much as I follow all of you I can't tell you how easy it was using the rustoleum colors, though they are slightly off in color it worked for us, will be a bit different when I get my workshop setup in Arizona
    We are going to do the final balance and tidying up of the wiring this Thursday, and then get the beast ready for its maiden flight, I am hoping that we misread the the scale the last time and the plane will be less than the 48lbs that we saw on the scale 2 weeks ago.
    On a happier note, the wings for the P38 are repaired and painted, need to reinstall the aileron servos and mount the new outboard flap servos and run the new wiring from the receivers. The last thing to do will be to redo the throttle linkages to make sure that they are moving at exactly the same speed, since I really think that the starboard engine spooled up a tad quicker than the port one and that's what caused it to tip stall..well hopefully that was the problem.
    Chic, I'm hoping to see your finished beast before I move to as, so that means you have 16 months, give or take.
    Hoping to get back to the T-28 within the next week or two.

    Hope everyone is having a great summer of flying
    Larry

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Hey guys,

    Finally back at it.

    Nice Trailer Charlie, I like the angle iron idea, good thinking.

    Couple pics of the gun turret almost finished, few more little things to add then paint.

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Peter,
    What can I say, I'm speechless... gorgeous work on the turret and I thought mine was nice.
    You are a true craftsman, can I ask how long it took you to build the turret?

    Larry

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Hey Larry,

    Have you done your maiden?  So looking forward to it.

    Man,  have I been busy  finishing off the outside of the house.
    All along I kept saying to myself  "I must finish all this before Labour Day Weekend so I can return to the Avenger" 

    Only seven months left until Toledo, hope I can finish on time for the show.

    The turret so far has taken about three and one half days to construct, with an estimated  two days to completion.

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Larry, what are we going to do with Peter and his out of sight constuction techniques. What beautiful work, Peter, you lead the path for the rest of us to follow. Hope my looks half as good. I'll finish it Larry, might be just before you leave. Smile. Just kidding. It better be done sooner then that. Chic
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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Hi guys,
    SO to anwser Peters question first, we hope to final balance the beast on Thursday and finish tidying up the wiring so it doesn't look like linguini minus the clam sauce.
    Hoping to do engine start before the end of the month and then the maiden flight.
    I do have a question though, can anyone enlighten me on why when you think you will have something done by a particular time it never seems to work out that way. Of course in the last 4 weeks we have had to deal with vacations, funerals etc. but it seems like every time we set a goal the clock moves faster than what we thought it should.
    And Chic, as far as Peter is concerned, I'm waiting to hear back from the company that sells those rubber band powered planes, I asked them to give me a price on a gross. half going to you and the other half coming to me.
    Chic, I'm hoping that when we both retire we aren't too old or far sighted so that we too can hone our skils to be 1/3rd as Good as Peter and the rest of the gang.
    SPeaking of retirement once I get to AZ, antytime you guys are out that way and would like to join me for a walk through the pima MUSEUM AND THE BONEYARD I would be honored to finally meet you, as for your significant tohers I'm sure my wife can entertain them with an indepth tour of all the malls and upscale boutiques


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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    All very well said Larry, I may have to go to Toledo this year just to admire his work. Age, well I guess aging is better then the alternative. Smile. Will certainly take you up on the Museum Visit oooooooone of these years. Hummm, we are running out of birthdays as my flying buddy tells me. Chic
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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Chic,  Why don't we all meet in Toledo, could be a blast.

    Larry,  I was in AZ  last January outside Scottsdale in and area called Pinnacle Peak, loved it.
    Don't be surprised if I show up on your door step.

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Okay guys, I truely give up now... going back to knit 1 pearl 2
    Peter magnificent I have NO other words to describe

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    I'm sitting here shaking my head. This man is building a world class scale model. He needs to be on Team USA. I'm proud to follow his lead. Aluminum door, he is tooo good. Just simply "WORLD CLASS" . Chic
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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    I'm at a loss for words...

    Absolutely astounding!

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    Thanks for the kind words guys.

    Following this thread has made this build a joy. 

    Struggling with the canopy now @$#%%&.

    What's up with you guys any new stuff?

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    RE: Charlie Kellogg's TBM Avenger Build

    What struggling with the "CANOPY". Hope my struggling looks as good when I get there. Chic
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