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Unknown Ki-61

Old 07-11-2011, 12:54 AM
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Old 07-11-2011, 06:08 AM
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Dude,
That is very impressive!!
Did those oleo retracts come with the ARF ?
Are the panels lines already in the fiberglass fuse or is that a balsa fuse and you added the detailing ?
That is an awesome paintjob!!! Was that stenciled or free hand painted/ airbrished ?
It looks fabulous !!
Looking fwd to the flight eport and hopefully some video (hint-hint) [8D]
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Hey NoFlaps, I used to see you in alot of the threads I followed; You've produced some fine work too. Good to see you still active, Thank you for the kind words. I'm really suprised anyone even saw this old abandoned thread!

The retracts are the mechanicals that came with the kit married to a set of RC Skylite struts. http://www.rcskylite.com/categories/Struts/

The fuse was this boxy skeletal thing,(see further up in the thread..there's the whole ARF laid out) more like a cub fuse than anything else. I sheeted and reshaped for a more "curvaceous" shape...particularly the rear bottom fuse.

Covering was all stripped off and after fixing what I could and getting rid of some of the ARFyness I sheeted the thing and proceeded as I do on stick builts for panel lines(chart tape and primer), hatches and panels(HVAC aluminum tape).

I tossed the ailerons and flaps and elev, all solid blocks of basswood and scratched new ones. Modified what I had for the rudder-added ribs and angle braces. Used polyesther weave cloth and "Balsarite" heat activated adhesive to cover the fabric surfaces. Also the radiator that came with it(below) was a joke so that also was redone(above)
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:05 PM
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The paint was done using masks for the "meatballs" and stripes; airbrushed freehand for the camo; the "Baay suun"(phonetic) "I always win" text on the tail was done freehand with a fine brush; the pattern on the tail was masked; Lettering/nomenclature was done with a pen freehand since I never could find any Japanese stencils, decals or transfers....practice, practice, practice...then apply.

Vaccu formed blisters and details along with the intake and landing light lense covers. (Thank you Chad Viech for the tutorial thread...you've created a vaccuform junkie!)

The landing light is a mini maglight LED upgrade set I purchased at Lowe's building supply; reflector bowl and LED make a nice effect.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:26 PM
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Frets24,

Very impressive work !!
That far more comprehensive than I thought.
Top notch stuff you've got going on...Guys like you make this hobby very interesting and compelling.
I've got an 8 month old baby girl now and my priorities have enivitably shifted, but I still keep tabs on projects I live vicariously through now.
Keep up the great work !!!
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Yours looks fantastic.

I got the Ki-61 too. My came with an epoxy fuse.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:48 AM
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NF,

I thought I had heard of an addition to your family. Congrats, Enjoy her while she's young; they DO grow up fast. My boys all seem to have grown up over night. They're 17, 17 (twins) 22, and 24.

Pippin,

Cool, Who is the Mfg or distributor on yours? Is it the .60 size VQ? And does the canopy with the front deck come off as well?



I thought the whole front/canopy being removeable was neat at first. good place to put switches and battery ports. wound up screwing the top down and running a small push/pull wire out the side for the switch and I leave the top bolted down for the most part while I'm at the field.

I'll put up a few more pics later today or tonight when I have some time to pull them off the camera. Some more of the finished detail shots and such.

I'm still highly motivated to make up a plug and have a new canopy deck pulled from.o40 or .060 PETG. Thats the way this one is. It bugs me that the rear of the canopy is wrong-too short and doesnt have the right line at the bottom. The center part is also not as long as it should be and doesn't have the bubble on top. overall it makes the gun hood way too long and makes the canopy sit a bit too far back on the wing. After maiden and some other tweeks it may be a good quick winter project. The good part is there is very little paint and detailing on that hood.
Old 07-12-2011, 09:30 AM
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thats one hella good bash job !!! great work

what is the scale of this plane? wing span?
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Hey 77CH, Thanks!

72" wing so it works out to be 1:6. Each one is a new experiment in getting an improved result in "making it look real" and new techniques. I'm looking forward to getting past my next build so I can start on my Zero. The other thread we're both following has me itchy to start, but I hate doing 2 in a row from the same country.

I'm sorry to see that EasyTiger isn't importing them any more. It's good to know you can get another in case of a mishap like Shuglu's. YT International has them though and the shipping isn't too terrible from the UK. Or I could wait till visiting my wife's family and bring it home myself.




This is the last of the pics; 55 of them....any more would be self indulgent[8D] Oops! too late! Actually I was going to do a build follow along for this one but, when they stopped being readily available in the USA I figured it wouldn't be any fun with no one able to participate along with me. I suppose this will count as a consolation prize[&:]

A few are doubles, with and w/o flash or a slight angle change, since it brings out different subtlties.

pics 1-4; I really like how the cloth took paint and retained it's cloth effect, especially with a light sanding. the sanding really gave a nice weathering/wear effect at the ribs too.
pics 5,6; I needed a hatch at the bottom to get to the wing bolts. The angle, even with a ball end hex driver, was just too difficult to monkey around with. You can see some of the vaccu formed detail bits from above pics as well.
pics 7-10; The guns were relatively easy with a drill press, a bunch of brass tubing and a soldering iron. The end result is one of my favorite details....I'll be doing more of these where ever they apply! They're actually German supplied MG-151's so I'm sure I'll be doing more. (Japs renamed them HO-103)
pic 11; Flap detail... internal or hidden actuator is visible in the middle
pic 12; one the reference pics for the MG barrel
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:35 PM
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pics 1; intake from vaccu form pics above as it is in place and painted. under it shows the wing fillet detail. taped the outline of the panel and built it up with primer. I like the effect. 1st time using that one...don't know how I missed the technique for so long

pics2,3; Saito FA-91 and another shot of the intake with some nomenclature. though the cut out seems small for cooling, It seems to do fine in the ground run ups with 12oz fuel and various in flight type throttle settings for timing purposes. I usually run several tanks to guage available flight time but, more importantly to hunt down vibration induced failures, loose fasteners and such on the ground before actually putting it in the air.

Pics 4-7; Vaccu formed some lenses and painted them inside with transparent paint; cut out the relief in the wing tip for the lights. The ARF just had some stickers to put on the tips. Used the same vaccuform plug for the light holders as for the fuel sump/fuel test port bumps as in the bolt access hatch pics 5,6 above.

Pics 8-11; head rest and rear canopy additions. 9 The inside of the removable canopy and cover peice. 10 Inst panel is just a photocopy glued to the scratch built panel assy scratched gun sight. 11 switch, charge jack, receiver and rudder servo, pull-pull and tailwheel pushrod beneath rec.

pic 12; there's a pic above of these hatches before paint. The HVAC tape works out great. Much like "flite metal" only more economical-4"x 35yds for $17.00
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pics 1-5; General shots along the side, bits of nomenclature and weathering, etc.

pic 6; This is a nice shot in that it really shows the fillet detail with the raised panel primer technique result visible...especially where the red and the white come together.

pic 7,8; tail jack tube, nomenclature, simulated leather tail wheel oleo cover. used some of the polyesther covering and various brown paints. intentionally oversprayed the "leather" with camo 'cause I saw it in one of my research pics details, details, details. One day I'd like to try for a "Top Gun" entry...Lots to learn before then though...for now ARFs are a good palette to practice on.

pics9-11; acces cover from below. access cover removed to reveal tail wheel set up. This is a Du Bro tail wheel assy that is shock absorbing so the "leather" actually gets a work out. double because the darker ones acent the relief in panel lines and light ones 'cause you can't see the TW assy install
in the dark ones!
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:23 PM
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pics 1,2; HVAC tape hatches and panels chip, weather and peel nicely, light and dark shots. some more nomenclature.

pics 3, 4; a couple of the leading edge featuring the landing light and 20mm cannon, powder burns and weathering.

pics 5-8; several of the same wing area with and without flash and diff angles trying to catch how much I really like how the raised edges of the HVAC tape weather and allow the paint to be peeled and chipped. This stuff is thin, light, sticks like crazy and works on compound sufaces. A bit more nomenclature. I was puzzelled in my research pics why it had 5.7mm on the ammo tray cover but I reproduced it anyway. Further research revealled that the German supplied cannon that Lt Kobayashi favored had a different Link size to the Jap cannon...The 5.7mm is a reference to insure that the 20mm ammo had the correct links. At least this is what I've been told. Wish I could find someone who speaks english and reads japanese. For all I know i've written "I'm constipated" on the sides of my plane! [&:] Who'd have thought that the owners of all the Japanese restuarants, groceries and drycleaners in town are Italians and Greeks and all of the employees are Hispanic, Phillipino and Korean?!?!?

pics 9,10; a couple of the pitot tube complete with my cat's teeth marks on the end

*note* right next to the "t" looking letter on the TE of the wing in pic 7 is my greatest disappointment in the paint work...[X(]a giant blister that welled up in the paint from a few weeks ago when the paint was still relatively new. I was running the engine and it was miday with a hot, hot sun bearing down on us, Oh well!


Thank you guys for indulging me and perusing my pics, Hope you like em



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Old 07-13-2011, 02:06 AM
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Frets,
my one came from Ebay. The box said "Made in China". VQ is from Vietnam and comes with a wooden fuse.
Out of the box, my Ki-61 was painted in silver. The fuse has no hatch.
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Your Ki looks amazing Frets, awesome work & detail.
May I ask where you got the reference for the different labels / warnings etc you have put on, it adds so much to your plane, I ask as I,m building a Zero at the moment & would like to add similar details.
Cheers Steff.
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Pippin,
I would love to see some more pics of your "Tony". Whats the scale/wing span? How long ago did you get it and do you know if they had more? I really like that yours has a more correct canopy outline and frame, as well as being more properly placed relative to the wing as it looks in the photo. Nice paint work..looks just like the hard edged mottel(sp?) as on this one.
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Steff,

First I googled "KI-61 Tony images", "ki-61 Tony photos, "kI61-images" and "KI-61 photos". Changed from upper case to lower case and any variations I could think of. You get a lot of overlapping pics and info but you get a lot of stuff that you wouldn't otherwise too. I also googled KI-61 tony plan view, 3 view. nomenclature, 1:32 decals, 1:48 decals, model decals....etc. Again, anything I could think of. I found lots of message boards devoted to WWII planes and websites on all sorts of WWII stuff, like the armament and variations of arms, Japanese armament, German supplied armament, modifications of German supplied arms.....I probably have 150 links to sites that are great research fodder for all sorts of WWII planes over all. Then there's 200+ photos and 20 or so links just for the KI-61 in my KI-61 research folder as well.

Google is your friend. Just search anything you can think of on your subject A/C and follow links. I always open new tabs so I can follow all the links from a particular site without having to back track or lose the original reference. Lots of blind allys and garbage to sift through, but then, I like the research probably a bit more than the building and flying[&:] Info junky..that's me.

I'm also doing a 70" CMP Zero that is #2 in que now, so I'm already beginning to gather info...Here's the thread I like best on it: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_90...40/key_/tm.htm

If you're dilegent and tenacious(along with a bit of luck) in your googling you'll get neat stuff like this:

http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/walkarou.htm

http://svsm.org/gallery/a6m-zero-family

Or this, which is where I got a bunch of the nomenclature from:

http://markkaiser.com/japaneseaviation/hien.html


Also these pics, from who knows where....some may be in the photos from the above site.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:45 AM
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Unbelievably, I still haven't been able to put this one in the air yet.

First time I was ready for it I left the wing tube behind, second time I left the receiver on after assembling; the battery was flat after the three hours I spent flying other planes and chit-chatting before I was ready to actually fly it. Not enough time left to top it up before the light faded. Third time out the wind kicked up and I wasn't comfortable with a stout direct crosswind on a maiden so I just played with xwind skills using a different plane. Fourth time out one of the retract servos failed/wasn't behaving properly during assy...geez

Now I think maybe I'm going to modify the mounts and install a set of the wingspan E-tracts.

Maybe it's all because I don't have my pilot situation sussed out yet...the plane knows it's not right to fly without a proper pilot bust in the cockpit. No worries though, there's one on a ship somewhere between here and Australia on it's way.
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Update, Wow, has it really been that long?!?! Sept 2012, successful maiden and subsequent upgrade to Saito FA-125 as the 91 proved worryingly underpowered. 125 seems a perfect match and carried it through 3 more great flights.

Now it's back off into the workshop to finally finish the ongoing 28 year Royal/Marutaka P-51 project and the current push; a build/bash of a CMP 120 Zero. The P-51 has been interesting. Started back on it a few years ago after a 24 year break. I can't believe some of the building methods and materials I thought were a good idea back in the day[X(] Took two years of dedicated and tedious work to undo some of the blunders....wish I knew what kind of concrete hard material I caked on the tail fillets and never sanded out or shaped
Old 10-31-2012, 12:22 AM
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Thread started 4 years ago...........

Good to hear about the maiden.
Old 10-31-2012, 01:01 AM
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Great work frets. Im seriously impressed!
Old 10-31-2012, 06:58 AM
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:53 AM
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Frets24

That is some really nice impeccable work you've done on that airplane frets. I wish somebody would come out with a 1/5 scale one of these. I would love to bash one of those
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Frets24 does amazing work. He sent a carb scoop for to use on my KI 61. Not up to Frets' standands, mine is the Flight Model KI 61 ARF from Hobby King. It is much more stock than his with some mods. Relocated the servos to the middle of fuslage, bigger wheel wells and larger wheels. Installed a DLE 20. I had some overheating problems but they are all corrected now. Total weight is 10.4 lbs. It is a good flying plane. I have over 100 flights on the plane.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:50 PM
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Bean,
Yours looks great. Side by side on a low and slow pass they, yours and mine, could be from the same Sentai! It would be fun to get together with Dogshome and do a formation[&:](at his field of course)

77CH,
I hear ya, buddy! I'd love to see one of these in 1/5 and more faithful lines. That would definitely get me to seriously consider moving from glow to gas[8D]
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Is frets still around to give more detail on how you rounded the bottom of the fuse?

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