COMP ARF 110" F4U ARF WITH FOLDING WING ASSEMBLY
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ORIGINAL: docgboy
I am a new memeber of the foling wing corsair club. I can't wait to get going on her. I am choosing a very different paint scheme than most.
Hope it looks as nice on this plane as this picture shows.
Scott
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I am a new memeber of the foling wing corsair club. I can't wait to get going on her. I am choosing a very different paint scheme than most.
Hope it looks as nice on this plane as this picture shows.
Scott
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flew the comp arf today,perfect,glad its over,thanks for all the help,its a super flying corsair.
flew the comp arf today,perfect,glad its over,thanks for all the help,its a super flying corsair.
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Iam sorry but we run Warbirds over Del. we are in the first day of the event,there will be many pics posted as the event moves along this week, ck: out WOD. later this week. Pete
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Front wing hinge mod:
While at WOD, I met Dave and Pete who flew the F4U at the half time demo show.
They have modified the front hinge (inner wing side) so part of the outer wing doesn't have to be cut.
I emailed Darrell at Sierra Giant scale and he said he would make the part, hopefully, in a few weeks.
(I'm glad that I haven't painted mine, yet!)
They also added a micro servo to open/close the center cover between the wings.
They used a contact switch so when the outer wing is completely down, the contact switch closes a circuit so the servo operates the center cover. They also used this as a visual device to know that the wing is in the 'locked' position.
mmmm: thinking about this, I'm not sure how they get the servo to open the center panel before the wings start to fold!
pic 1:
I got under the plane and did some rudimentary measurements and this drawing is what I came up with.
For those who want to make their own, this should get you started.
pic 2:
While at HD to pick up some electrical tape, I saw this five colored tape package (GTPC-550).
I'm going to start using the colors to match my wing wire/air extensions to the fuse extensions: it'll save me having to try to read faded lettering and be much easier to visually identify which wires get connected to each other.
While at WOD, I met Dave and Pete who flew the F4U at the half time demo show.
They have modified the front hinge (inner wing side) so part of the outer wing doesn't have to be cut.
I emailed Darrell at Sierra Giant scale and he said he would make the part, hopefully, in a few weeks.
(I'm glad that I haven't painted mine, yet!)
They also added a micro servo to open/close the center cover between the wings.
They used a contact switch so when the outer wing is completely down, the contact switch closes a circuit so the servo operates the center cover. They also used this as a visual device to know that the wing is in the 'locked' position.
mmmm: thinking about this, I'm not sure how they get the servo to open the center panel before the wings start to fold!
pic 1:
I got under the plane and did some rudimentary measurements and this drawing is what I came up with.
For those who want to make their own, this should get you started.
pic 2:
While at HD to pick up some electrical tape, I saw this five colored tape package (GTPC-550).
I'm going to start using the colors to match my wing wire/air extensions to the fuse extensions: it'll save me having to try to read faded lettering and be much easier to visually identify which wires get connected to each other.
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I saw the plane at WOD on Saturday and it is certainly well done. Pete and Dave engineered some super refinements that will help all of us. But, when I saw it fly at the noon show all I wanted to do is go home and build. Thanks for the inspiration guys.
Scott
Scott
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Finally, the plane and engine are on it's way. I purchased the RCS 250 and the ARF version of the corsair. Right now they are sitting in Miami waiting to be shipped to my country.
I have already purchased several things for this plane, but I still have some doubts specially because of the available space and I would like know your opinion.
Servos: I already purchased Futaba 9157 servos (425 oz-in @ 6v, Speed .14 @ 6 v) which should be more than enough for this plane.
Ignition Battery: I'm thinking of using a Fromeco Lion 2600 mah battery with a voltage regulator. All my planes are equipped with this brand of battery so I want to standardize. I guess a battery this size should be OK for several flights..... Is the ignition of this engine consuming a lot ? What are you guys using for ignition batteries ?
Batteries / Power Box: In all my big planes I'm using the Powerbox Royal, which gives me the capacity of installing double batteries and double receivers (Futaba 6014FS). Because of the Corsair configuration, maybe the use of a Royal is not worthit since I'm not going to be able to look at the screen, but I'm thinking of another Powerbox model (not yet decided). For batteries, I was was thinking of two Fromeco Lion 5200 mah. This should give me enough flying time between charges. What are you guys using ? Is there enough space to install a Powerbox with these two batteries ?
Air System: I want to use the Airpower EV5UPRO valve which I have been using in my other planes with good results. There should be enough space to install it since its not too big. I will have to check how I will install the air bottles since I like to have some spare air (that means extra bottles).
Do you have more pictures of how you guys have distributed all your equipment inside the plane ?
I have already purchased several things for this plane, but I still have some doubts specially because of the available space and I would like know your opinion.
Servos: I already purchased Futaba 9157 servos (425 oz-in @ 6v, Speed .14 @ 6 v) which should be more than enough for this plane.
Ignition Battery: I'm thinking of using a Fromeco Lion 2600 mah battery with a voltage regulator. All my planes are equipped with this brand of battery so I want to standardize. I guess a battery this size should be OK for several flights..... Is the ignition of this engine consuming a lot ? What are you guys using for ignition batteries ?
Batteries / Power Box: In all my big planes I'm using the Powerbox Royal, which gives me the capacity of installing double batteries and double receivers (Futaba 6014FS). Because of the Corsair configuration, maybe the use of a Royal is not worthit since I'm not going to be able to look at the screen, but I'm thinking of another Powerbox model (not yet decided). For batteries, I was was thinking of two Fromeco Lion 5200 mah. This should give me enough flying time between charges. What are you guys using ? Is there enough space to install a Powerbox with these two batteries ?
Air System: I want to use the Airpower EV5UPRO valve which I have been using in my other planes with good results. There should be enough space to install it since its not too big. I will have to check how I will install the air bottles since I like to have some spare air (that means extra bottles).
Do you have more pictures of how you guys have distributed all your equipment inside the plane ?
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Gonzalo38:
Your servo's are overkill but what they heck. Remember, this is a war bird and throws are minimal.
I use the same Fromeco batteries but reversed in size. I use a 5200 regulated to 5 volts on the radial. Remember, one flight is like 5 flights on a single. Then I use 2 -2600's on the radio regulated to 6 volts through a SmartFly system. This have been plenty.
Using 2 large air tanks from Sierra will give you 6 to 8 cycles of the landing gear with air left over.
There is lots of room in the fuselage even with the DBalsa cockpit kit installed. I read where guys that have the arf version like yours are having to add a couple pounds in the nose so be careful what you do in the tail section and install everthing as far forward as possible.
My fixed wing version required no added weight for balance.
Welcome to the club..............
Your servo's are overkill but what they heck. Remember, this is a war bird and throws are minimal.
I use the same Fromeco batteries but reversed in size. I use a 5200 regulated to 5 volts on the radial. Remember, one flight is like 5 flights on a single. Then I use 2 -2600's on the radio regulated to 6 volts through a SmartFly system. This have been plenty.
Using 2 large air tanks from Sierra will give you 6 to 8 cycles of the landing gear with air left over.
There is lots of room in the fuselage even with the DBalsa cockpit kit installed. I read where guys that have the arf version like yours are having to add a couple pounds in the nose so be careful what you do in the tail section and install everthing as far forward as possible.
My fixed wing version required no added weight for balance.
Welcome to the club..............
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David:
It noticably pulled the rpm's down and I did not like the throttle curve. Seemed like there was nothing past 1/2 throttle and touchy landing rpm's. My motor really likes the Menz 32 X 14 two-blade . It sounds and fly's good with it so I have not gone back to the 3 blade yet.
The four blade is out of the question. Nothing past 1/4 throttle and scarred that crap out of me. Broke it on the first flight and probably will not try another.
Was having trouble with the landing gear folding on me and that cost me a few props. Landing gear is ok now but it is still a tough one for me to land. Definetly need to land with power on and no flairing or it will bounce which is not good.
Oh, one more tip. If you bounce the landing and decide to go around, never under any circumstances give it full throttle at slow speeds. There is so much torque it will roll the plane and there is not enough aileron or rudder to stop it. (Don't ask me how I know). Lucky to still have the plane.
LOL
Paul
It noticably pulled the rpm's down and I did not like the throttle curve. Seemed like there was nothing past 1/2 throttle and touchy landing rpm's. My motor really likes the Menz 32 X 14 two-blade . It sounds and fly's good with it so I have not gone back to the 3 blade yet.
The four blade is out of the question. Nothing past 1/4 throttle and scarred that crap out of me. Broke it on the first flight and probably will not try another.
Was having trouble with the landing gear folding on me and that cost me a few props. Landing gear is ok now but it is still a tough one for me to land. Definetly need to land with power on and no flairing or it will bounce which is not good.
Oh, one more tip. If you bounce the landing and decide to go around, never under any circumstances give it full throttle at slow speeds. There is so much torque it will roll the plane and there is not enough aileron or rudder to stop it. (Don't ask me how I know). Lucky to still have the plane.
LOL
Paul
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Hi all,
Just placed the order for the CARF Corsair, retracts and Moki 250.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for the best servos for the control surfaces; I’ll be using a JR DSX9 Radio, is anyone flying the model with this Radio?
Any suggestions on Power boxes? I was thinking of using the Royal IAC – 453.
Once I get delivery and start construction I’ll post what I find out.
Thanks for all the comments so far on this site, it has been invaluable to me, keep it up.
Regards
JAM.
Just placed the order for the CARF Corsair, retracts and Moki 250.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for the best servos for the control surfaces; I’ll be using a JR DSX9 Radio, is anyone flying the model with this Radio?
Any suggestions on Power boxes? I was thinking of using the Royal IAC – 453.
Once I get delivery and start construction I’ll post what I find out.
Thanks for all the comments so far on this site, it has been invaluable to me, keep it up.
Regards
JAM.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjfZMe7Q-7w
Making some progress. Test ran the moki this weeked and can now finish prepping the plane for paint.
Making some progress. Test ran the moki this weeked and can now finish prepping the plane for paint.
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Well my Carf Corsair has arrived, it is brilliant. The retracts and Moki engine should arrive this week, hope to have it sitting on it's gear by next weekend.
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Comp-ARF Corsair Builders
We now make a Scale Inner Wing Fold Hinge so you don't have to cut the Outer Panel Fiberglass Skin.
E-mail me if you want to purchase an aftermarket Hinge Set.
The Hinge has been tested on several flying models.
Darrell Tenny
Sierra Giant Scale
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We now make a Scale Inner Wing Fold Hinge so you don't have to cut the Outer Panel Fiberglass Skin.
E-mail me if you want to purchase an aftermarket Hinge Set.
The Hinge has been tested on several flying models.
Darrell Tenny
Sierra Giant Scale
[email protected]
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I got an email for the colors that I used on my F4U so I thought that I'd post them.
I used exterior satin enamel by Behr from home depot.
I have not yet painted my plane.
I don't claim that these colors are 'accurate' in that they match exactly any color codes for contest purposes.
The two color pictures below are of my TF F4U that I took to HD and had them scan the colors.
The last picture is of the Comparf F4U presently in the 'hanger': not sure when I'll get to finishing it as I have five projects for the winter. Since the flying season is virtually over for me, I'm in no hurry but it will be in the air next season.
DARK blue:
COLORANT OZ 48 96
V MAGENTA 1 12 0
E THALO BLUE 7 10 0
B LAMP BLACK 3 4 0
KX WHITE 0 18 0
DEEP BASE NO 9853 (ONLY CAME IN GALLONS)
LIGHT BLUE
V MAGENTA 0 2 0
E THALO BLUE 1 2 1
B LAMP BLACK 0 21 0
ACCENT BASE NO 9856
OFF WHITE (MORE A CREAM COLOR AND NOT WHITE: SOME PILOTS MAY WANT PURE WHITE)
C YELLOW OXID 0 6 0
B LAMP BLACK 0 2 1
BASE COLOR: ULTRA PURE WHITE NO 9850
I used exterior satin enamel by Behr from home depot.
I have not yet painted my plane.
I don't claim that these colors are 'accurate' in that they match exactly any color codes for contest purposes.
The two color pictures below are of my TF F4U that I took to HD and had them scan the colors.
The last picture is of the Comparf F4U presently in the 'hanger': not sure when I'll get to finishing it as I have five projects for the winter. Since the flying season is virtually over for me, I'm in no hurry but it will be in the air next season.
DARK blue:
COLORANT OZ 48 96
V MAGENTA 1 12 0
E THALO BLUE 7 10 0
B LAMP BLACK 3 4 0
KX WHITE 0 18 0
DEEP BASE NO 9853 (ONLY CAME IN GALLONS)
LIGHT BLUE
V MAGENTA 0 2 0
E THALO BLUE 1 2 1
B LAMP BLACK 0 21 0
ACCENT BASE NO 9856
OFF WHITE (MORE A CREAM COLOR AND NOT WHITE: SOME PILOTS MAY WANT PURE WHITE)
C YELLOW OXID 0 6 0
B LAMP BLACK 0 2 1
BASE COLOR: ULTRA PURE WHITE NO 9850
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would anyone have measurment specs on the sierra gear like mounting holes; strut length from bottom of mounting bracket to wheel axcel reason is I have a set of gear and would like to know if it would fit with a little mod.
Thank's Tony
Thank's Tony
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new front hinges so the outside wing will not have to be cut for hinge clearance.
pic 1:
Got my two front modified hinges from Darrell.
pic 2:
I'm assuming that they go on the inside wing.
Only three holes are used instead of the original four but that should be enough since this does not appear to be a high stress point.
They should go on easily since I have four blind nuts epoxied on the other side of the ply.
Since Darrell made the original hinges, I'm sure the hinge point holes align up perfectly on the new modified hinges.
(now I'm glad that I didn't finish the plane last spring!)
pic 1:
Got my two front modified hinges from Darrell.
pic 2:
I'm assuming that they go on the inside wing.
Only three holes are used instead of the original four but that should be enough since this does not appear to be a high stress point.
They should go on easily since I have four blind nuts epoxied on the other side of the ply.
Since Darrell made the original hinges, I'm sure the hinge point holes align up perfectly on the new modified hinges.
(now I'm glad that I didn't finish the plane last spring!)