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Old 12-02-2009, 09:17 AM
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Thanks for the info George. Yes I had thought about a 3W 80 but I hate the fact of having the rear carb , it is very long come inside the Firewall. I also love the G62 and have one now on a TFGS Corsair but I agree with you it will not carry this load well. Thanks for taking the time to give me some ideas. I will continue to weigh my options, and I will continue to follow your threads. Kevin.
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ORIGINAL: DENTO

G-DAY GEORGE
Just a couple of shot of my gear lot of stuffing around but will look good in the end also a shot of my wheel 5.5 in DUBRO ALLI HUB I GOT IT FROM ZORILIES now I know thats not spelt right but looks good ,Mate you paint job is certainly looking good just hope mine turnes out half as good, Can,t get the paint products you can got over there such as the latex have tryed every where not luck hope to find something if not shall have to go auto laquer.Have to say have lernt a lot for your build.
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How many layers of Fiberglass did you use to make the Gear Doors?

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Dento if the strut cover or wheel cover door is flat you can cut it out of flat fiberglass sheet, if you are going to lay up fiberglass on the wing sheeting to get the curved shape I would use two layers of thick fiberglass cloth.
I am repairing one of my P-51 now, made a rough landing and took the gear out so.. A- I repaired the wood around the retract area and repainted... B- recut the panel that covers the gear mount screw area and primed gray out of 1/32" plywood... C- the strut covers are held on with aluminum straps and screws.

I am not going after flush scale covers but rather using strut covers on the surface with no wheel covers, my cover is cut from thin aluminum and curved to the wing airfoil, it all looks good on the ground or in the air and makes it practical and easy to repair, I do not have to tweek it if I make a rough landing or two.. As you can see the refference photo for my build has white wall tires as well. I would like to see your install pictures when you get to it, George
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I,am BACK
Sorry george I have been lurking in the back ground an old German mate took me to the dark side (JETS) But am now back to the P51 , I did do my retract turtleshells with flat G10 sheet BUT Iwould say what George has said is the best 2or3 heavy glass over the well then cut out would be easer Put something over the wells to support some oven paper that the epoxy will not stick to And just lay up your cloth Very simple, Hey George shall post some shot of where Iam at.
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Hey George, my Nosen is now almost ready to fly. Question: I built a single 102" wing. Would you know any place that makes a wing bag for a wing that big?

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Bert I can't help you on that one, maybe someone out there knows where to get a big one peice wing bag??.. George.
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Try a large sleeping bag they work well
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Thanks Dento, but it would need to be 9 feet long. Any idea where I can find a 9 ft sleeping bag?

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BUY TWO
And sew together, turn inside out sew to the shape of the wing cut off excess turn right side out, You wont get any better,Should be able to pick up cheap at camping store.Thats how I make mine .
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Ty I sent you a email as geoflying@aol.com thanks George.
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Hey George - my Nosen is finished (except the muffler exhausts). Just waiting for the right day to fly. Today is sunny and 50, so it may go, depending on the wind. Anyway, it weighs 32 pounds, and has a ZDZ 80. Is that about the right weight? What have other Nosen P-51s weighed in to your knowledge?

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Bert looks very good, 32 pounds is light, the 80 should move it nice!, mine come out at about 34 pounds, keep us posted on the flight, George.
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Ty I sent you a PM hope that gets through, George.
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Hi George,


I have been following this thread on the Nosen P-51. I thought you would like to see a photo of mine. It is covered with 3/4 oz fiberglass, Z-Poxy and painted with Luster Kote paint. It weights 32# and is powered with a Quadra 75. It has Robart #152 retracts, Sierra wheels. It is flown with a Futaba FASST 2.4 radio. To date, I have about 30 flights on it. I did have some retract problems untill I bought a BVM high volumn valve. That solved my retract problems....

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Larry, nice looking P-51, I switched to Futaba 2.4 this year and I like it, how does the Quadra 75 fly the P-51?.. I use a Quadra 75 in my Meister 109's and it handles them good, George.
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Ok Gentlemen,

I am taking my time with the built and the cold temps in my garage right now do not provide for the best working conditions either.
So far I have glassed the wing with all the flaps and ailerons. I am in the process of sanding and priming those. Once i get them done I will do some final sanding and shaping on the fuse before I lay glass there. Below are some pics of my setup. I hope u dont mind some blurry and bigger pics. Even with a DSLR u cant get that right.....

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big intake for the Super 80. I screwed the cowl shape a bit up during the built (see last pic)


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ZDZ Super80, 1.2L tank underneath the Battery Deck (, SmartFly EQ6 Turbo with Ignition Cutoff (not used), 2 FP 3350mAh Li batteries


Main Retract doors fitting. u can also see the air refill valve on the left side hatch


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Basically while retracting the tire will push the spring loaded bar down which in turn closes the doors shut. It is set so that when the wheel is almost in, the doors will close. Same for opening. The springs have quite some down tension. The tire needs to leave the bar only a fraction of an inch and they popp open. In my case the wheel is quite close to the doors.











Front (due to the engine sitting so far upfront I had to make it a bit larger. Of course not scale look anymore. But who cares? As long as it flies...
BTW...it's a JTEC custom muffler that sticking out there


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Hey George - my Nosen is finished (except the muffler exhausts). Just waiting for the right day to fly. Today is sunny and 50, so it may go, depending on the wind. Anyway, it weighs 32 pounds, and has a ZDZ 80. Is that about the right weight? What have other Nosen P-51s weighed in to your knowledge?

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Bert,

Looks awesome with the FM. I assume it's FM?
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Bert it looks like you got the hard part done and looking good, as far as the cowl I would rather make it a little out of scale to cover the engine, that way it looks better and more scale than the cylinder sticking out the bottom, George.
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Thanks George

I got a few more pics for the interested people. First is the snug fitting cowl which will keep the cold air right around the cylinder head fins. I could have set the engine further back and used a prop extension....but that would have put more stress on the firewall. The spark plug cap however will stick out a notch. The last pic is the fairing end(s) that I just finished (of course not scale)







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OK George, I'm 100% finished now! If it's nice tomorrow, I'll fly it. I ran into trouble trying to modify the Tony Howard muffler exhausts to work with the fiberclassics cowl (the problem was on my end). In the end, the mufflers are painted rust-colored, withjust a touch of gold coloring to give it an anodized sort of look, and of course clear coat. Here are some photos. I know what you mean about the cowl, if I had it to all over again... Oh well...

Hey easy schnuki - I don't understand - what do you mean "is it FM?"

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OK George, I'm 100% finished now! If it's nice tomorrow, I'll fly it. I ran into trouble trying to modify the Tony Howard muffler exhausts to work with the fiberclassics cowl (the problem was on my end). In the end, the mufflers are painted rust-colored, withjust a touch of gold coloring to give it an anodized sort of look, and of course clear coat. Here are some photos. I know what you mean about the cowl, if I had it to all over again... Oh well...

Hey easy schnuki - I don't understand - what do you mean ''is it FM?''

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FM = Flight metal.....sorry for the abbreviation
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How did you fix the canopy? Thats my next challenge...
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Bert it almost looks like the real thing on the run way, let me know if your knees are knocking as bad as mine when I maiden a flight, hope all goes well, it would be great if you can get someone with a video cam, good luck, George.
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No, it's Ultracote Chrome. I just couldn't find anyone with any real experience with it. But who knows, maybe a year or two from now, I'll convert this to FM. While this covering looks cool, man I tell you, it shows EVERY flaw, so you better be good with your building! I've also noticed every little ding shows more than regular monokote.

As far as my canopy, I really had fits about the thin edge as is descends down onto the side of the fuse, as there was no real flat surface to glue it to, so on the front edge where it's flat, I used RC56 canopy glue, but then on the thin sides that set down on the side of the fuse, I used black electrical tape to secure it. I'm sure the experienced builders are rolling their eyes, but I couldn't figure anything else, plus, I wanted my plane to be a bit different, and most Mustangs have on the canopys, silver or aluminum paint, I chose black as you can see - so this served two purposes - not only could it be a bit different, but the black trim hides the black electrical tape. By the way, black electrical tape stretches very well around the curves. Here's an older picture taken around the time I mounted it, you can look close and see the black tape. What do you think?

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