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Old 10-08-2004, 03:18 PM
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Hello Don et al; I have known Bill at Spring Air for many years, and had dealings with him, with never a problem! He's "good people"!! Lee Robinson; Robinaire
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I have not read all of this thread thoroughly, but CJM TF P-40 I just
received moves 95 degrees to extend which Bruce Sanders from CJM
modified instead of 90 degrees. You need to specify 95 deg. of move
when ordering, though. Even 100 deg. will be accepted I guess. but
he said 100 deg. is too much.
And one of two pressure nipples seems to have been modified lately.

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Old 10-09-2004, 06:18 AM
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Tm Hows is your P40 coming along ? Nice tip on the gear
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Those plastic nipples on the cylinders really annoy me. I have broken several simply slipping tubing on them. I wish all the fittings were brass.
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Old 10-09-2004, 09:08 AM
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Those plastic nipples on the cylinders really annoy me. I have broken several simply slipping tubing on them. I wish all the fittings were brass.
Have you? I worried about such things when I saw the plastic fitting instead of brass.
Old Robart 615 had also plastic base fittings on the cylinder. I have broken one of them
when I pulled the tubing off the fitting. The fitting came off together from the cylinder.
I don't know why CJM replaced it with plastic one.
I placed an order for this retract to CJM directly requesting 95 degrees movement.
Mr.Bruce Sanders, CJM, accepted the modification with pleasure.
None of distributors have this CJM 95 degrees retract, only 90 degrees one.
By the way, how did you fix the broken plastic fittings or did you need to replace the
whole cylinder?


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Old 10-09-2004, 09:14 AM
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Actually, the CJM retracts on my Corsair and Hellcat are around 92-93 degrees.
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Old 10-09-2004, 10:02 AM
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I purchased brass nipples to replace the plastic fittings. You can buy them from CJM or Robart, but I believe they should be standard equipment.
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Old 10-09-2004, 08:28 PM
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Actually, the CJM retracts on my Corsair and Hellcat are around 92-93 degrees.
My CJM for Wing Mfg. F6F Helcat which I perchased several years
ago looks just perpendicular to the base mount. ( my F6F is still in the
box so I don't know if the retract needs more than 90 degrees)
CJM retracts may be developping year after year.
( I'm sorry my english may not be correct)

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I agree with the plastic fittings as a problem , its my only issues with CJ gear .
I am curious to see how spring air will compare in this market . I have not heard one thing bad about any of there gear . Many pattern flyers have used them for years .
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I have seen the Sierra gear mounted in the Corsair. They retract at 100 degrees. This puts the axle at or just forward of the leading edge of the wing, just like the real thing. It should also help with any nose over tendency.

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Old 10-13-2004, 08:26 AM
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can any one tell me if darrell,s new gear work on a giantscale planes hellcat.thanks fred
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What we need is the distance from the front edge of the retract mechanism to the axle, and I will be able to tell you if the gear will fit the GSP Hellcat.
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Old 10-15-2004, 05:50 PM
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Hello All, I just recieved my retracts from Darrell (sierra), I keep slobbering on them, in oneword,....WOW! I do believe the retract problems are over. Darrell, GREAT WORK!!!! i don't have a pic. but you know what they look like,.....Thank You Darrell, you did a fantastic job,...well worth the wait, I'd be putting them in now, but my son's engine bit it,....priority's,.............I'll let you all know how they work when i can get to it,....Later,........Paul
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Old 10-19-2004, 08:56 AM
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That sounds great.
I am one of the first 20+ people who signed up with a deposit (actually, I'm # 13), it seems like 2 years ago. Anyway, my question--does that mean I would be getting the 13th set from Darrell (Sierra)?
Anyone know his distribution plan(s)

strnglvr, Were you a early joiner in this long birth?
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Old 10-19-2004, 09:17 AM
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strnglvr, Were you a early joiner in this long birth?
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Bob, I think you got your deposit in before strnglvr.
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Old 10-19-2004, 11:50 AM
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Wow, looks great. Now if he can offer a pair without the training wheels I'll take them, the forward rake is far to much and would look silly on a Corsair. Still waiting....

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Old 10-19-2004, 12:01 PM
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Thanks for the input. I just sent off an email to Darrel regarding my slot in the production line/process. Hope he responds. I'm assuming I owe him another $150. He also make a comment to the original people who signed up that he would make it very much worth our while with some kind of freebie. Thats all I remember
Here's hoping I can get this product during this fall's building season.
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I was in to see Darrel this afternoon. He is packing and shipping retracts just as fast as he get them assembled. Without the use of any cast plastic parts, there is quite a bit of hand assembly work involved in the gear. They are worth the wait, as those that have received theirs can attest.

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voyager_663rd

Thanks for the input. I just sent off an email to Darrel regarding my slot in the production line/process. Hope he responds. I'm assuming I owe him another $150. He also make a comment to the original people who signed up that he would make it very much worth our while with some kind of freebie. Thats all I remember
Here's hoping I can get this product during this fall's building season.
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You got an answer to your email? I guess those of us who bailed out after a year are on a "do not answer" list until he gets caught up with those of you who stayed the course.

Oh well, come on SpringAir

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Oh well, come on SpringAir

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Hey, Lee is closer to the finish line than Spring Air
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Oh well, come on SpringAir

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Hey, Lee is closer to the finish line than Spring Air
Heheheheh...point taken.
Come on Lee (and SpringAir)

Don

PS: Lee, please PM me. I want to get on your wait list, if you have one.
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Hello All, I don't know what number I was, but i was pretty close to the first 20 if not in it, but I sent darrell 250.00 from the begining for a complete set, did anyone else pay for a complete set up front? and let it ride for a year and ahalf, then reading all the bashing of darrell, i got cold feet, and he sent it back, then within a couple of days darrell posted the food for thought pictures, and sent it right back to him, and waited tell he finished them, Paul
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No, I have not heard from Darrel yet; I'll wait the course, after all this much. I'm assuming he will contact me for my additional $ when he is about to ship! Or maybe the squeaky wheel gets all the attention?
I'll keep the faith.

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Hi Voyager & gang; I talked to my friend Bill Watten up at SpringAir today, and you all sort of caught him off guard. He wasn't sure how genuine the need was. I assured him that you were all looking for alternate sources, in spite of Darryl getting out first. So he will look into it further, including revisiting one he did some time back, albeit smaller. So we will both be working on alternatives. I went down to the cnc shop Monday, and Jay & I had quite a discussion on a variety of parts, not just this project. I am just getting snowed trying to do everything myself, so must get help!! I believe my lack of 4 arms and 48 hour days may have something to do with it! I'll keep all posted. I posted this answer here because I got a msg. Maybe I should put it over on my thread. But I figure you would all see it anyhow. Will keep all posted on progress. Lee Robinson
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Lee, you know that I'll wait for what you have got coming. I've put my building on hold for many many months so I can build around the gear and sp I started other stuff while waiting so this gear is not too much of a priority (although EVERY plane really is a priority--you know what I mean). We all waited for so long for Darrell to get with it and with no comms, I think most just wrote that option off. Now that he's back with something, well it's difficult to know which way to go.

I'm sure I speak for quite a few when I say that after you stepped up to the plate, we certainly owe you. You talked to us, you answered questions, and have been out in front with the community. And because of that, I"ll stick with you. WIth the type of community that this is, I would hope that Darrell accepted the (negative) comments that people posted and not turn sales away because of that.

I don't have a bird to put your (or any) gear in because I stopped building till something was available. And I will still wait to hear about results of installing either Darrells or your gear when they are made available to the community before I make a buying decision.

Thanks for your comms and status reports Lee. In my opinion, that would be a deciding factor, everything else being equal.
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