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Old 10-27-2012, 11:53 AM
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Hi there Scott etal. . . . Gent's just got my first Moki motor and have spent the last few days working my way through this monster of a thread.. I have one of the new 180's and plan on adding a pimp after some initial runs with the on-board pulse pump to see how it performs. I am going to an end of season show tomorrow to get the A123 battery and voltage regulator. With any luck also sort a prop at the same time.

One thing that intrigues me with the instructions they recommended exactly the same propellers as the 150? Surely with the extra 30cc there should be a little more grunt there.

Recommended are 2 blades 26 x 16, 28 x 14, 30 x 12 and for 3 blades 24 x 16, 26 x14. It's going in a 1/3.2 scale Laird Turner Special - Miss Champion (95" span) with an expected weight of 35 - 40LBS. Having a cowl with a 15" diameter the propeller choice becomes more of a thinker! I will probably go for a Biela prop following a recommendation from Mick B.

Ideally I would like to put a 3 blade on of about 30". does anyone have any suggestions for the first try, not that I want a collection of props you understand!! Should I stick to 2 blade????

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Old 10-27-2012, 12:07 PM
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Hi Nigel, Just a thought if I may, I have been purchasing quite a few differend props for my radials and came to the conclusion ( dang this is getting expensive ) So I decided to purchase the solo props, they are adjustable to various pitches, THUS SAVING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY. The adjustments are easy, takes a few minutes right at the field. I just wish they would make one for the 400, now that would be great.
And thats all I have to say. Back into my shop and get ready to build some more.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:00 AM
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I do like the look of the Solo props and may end up with one eventually.

For now I have gone for a 2 blade 28 x 14 Mentz. Ali says the 180 sings beautifully wit this prop. So my starter for 10 is pending installation in my office at the moment.

The pump may be purchased from a supply I have found in the UK

Later . . .

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Old 11-08-2012, 10:19 AM
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If interested there are propellors offered by Aircraft internaional in the US called JC super props. Even in the large sizes they come in 1 inch increments and many pitches. I have been using a Fiala 32x18 on my 215 but the very high pitch makes landing and taxiing difficult. They acually offer a 33x16 which I ordered and hope will be a good solution. The wood is from S. America and is very light! The owner will weigh your prop before shipping it. -Tom
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:03 PM
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Hi all I have a moki 215 for sale if anybody is in need of one it is set up with the pump and comes with 2 props 32x12 and 32x14 runs geart.I am moving so I have no more room for the big planes.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:15 PM
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Price???? Mitch
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:25 PM
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Hi Mitch 3300.00 obo
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:10 PM
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Will the 215 fit the Meister P47?

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Old 11-08-2012, 06:34 PM
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I understand that the moki will fit very nice in the meister scale p-47.My freind had a moki 215 in his comparf p-47 man what a scale flying and sounding plane.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:51 PM
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WR,

I know many guys have put the Moki 150 in the Meister P47, so I've been leaning toward it, or the new 180? But, don't know of a 215 powered one?
BTW, the CARF P47 is a little bit bigger and I think the Meisters cowl is only like 11.5" wide? I'll have to measure mine...

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Old 11-11-2012, 08:19 AM
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If anyone is looking for a Moki 150 radial, mine is for sale on RCU classifieds £1,600. Includes exhaust extensions & recommended electric fuel pump.
Bought new March this year from Heilemann Sternmotor Germany. Only 2 to 3 hours running time.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:44 PM
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Hey fellas!, I probably shouldn't ask this question but, I am new to synthetic oils except in the late 1960"s when they first came out, we were asked to do some testing on the Daytona track, bad results, I'm sure they are a little better now, I guess I have to use them in my Moki 215 if I'm going to get sludge free engine runs.
My problem is I was told to use AMSOIL Dominator at 50 to 1, then I was told by someone else, you should use AMSOIL Interceptor at 50 to 1, and also someone said a lot of guys are using the AMSOIL Sabre 50 to 1.
Now fellas here are three different oils one of them is probably better than the other two for our purpose, after reading the description for each one it sounds like the Interceptor is best for our application unless I have missed something.
As you guys know these are not K&B 40's and we need to use the correct stuff.
Sure would appreciate any input on this one.

I'm sure they all would work to some extent but the manufacturer wouldn't make three different oils if they weren't meant to be used in different conditions.
It's a dilemma because these are four stroke engines that are asked to use two stroke oil.

Thank you for any input, and I hope this may help someone else also, Sincerely, Wingstrut

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Old 11-16-2012, 04:51 PM
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Interceptor 40 to 50 to 1 is excellent!!! Engine is silky smooth with this oil with great running characteristics. -Tom
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:04 PM
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What a positive enthusiastic reply, Thank you Tom, that is great.........Ron
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:36 PM
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I use 50:1 Dominator and Sabre. They both work great and no troubles with my engines. Been very happy w/Amsoil and the inside of the engines look polished after a season of run time.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:37 AM
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Thanks Scott, Maybe it doesn't matter what blend of amzoil we use because it doesn't have to stay in the engine flight after flight.
Thanks again Scott...............Ron
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:52 AM
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More good info on AMSOIL. Notice the difference regarding oils recommended for water-cooled vs. air-cooled.

http://www.thebestoil.com/AMSOILSynt...s/default.aspx

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Old 11-17-2012, 10:55 AM
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Hi fellasA big "thank you" to all that have contributed information here. A special thanks to Scott, Maxam , Dr. Vogelsang and Detlef for starters. I know I have left alot of names out and thanks to all of you fellas as well.

PS Don't forget to use baffles where possible.
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Any idea of the status of the upgraded ignition module?
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:12 PM
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Thanks Ad Clark, I never saw that chart, as we all have learned a long time ago, oil for water cooled engines are not to be used in air cooled engines.
According to the chart Interceptor, Dominator, and Sabre pro could all be used but Sabre pro looks like the winner except for the 100 to 1 oil mix.
That is a little lean on oil for my liking. I'm having a hard time mixing 50 to 1, I've spent too many years mixing 16 and 20 to 1.
It's hard to teach us old codgers anything new...Ha!Ha!.............but I'm trying to learn!. As Ad stated thanks to all who have contributed to this forum and to Scott for starting this thread...........You learn a lot by communication...Sincerely, Ron Gooden
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:07 PM
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Thanks Ron. Like you I 'm not comfortable at the 100:1 mix ratios.. I think I would go with Tom's set-up using 44:1 after break in @ 40:1 and premium gas (ethanol free). I am leaning toward Scott's choice of Sabre Pro.

I also like Tom's total set-up with the carb, turbulator and the use of Seafoam additive to help with the sticking valve problem.
Just my opinionI'm no big dogjust alittle country mouse.

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Old 11-17-2012, 02:20 PM
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That sounds like something I could live with.
There is a lot to say about a country mouse, Thank you for your interest and time Ad, ..........Ron
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:38 PM
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Thanks Ron

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Old 11-17-2012, 03:50 PM
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Ad, I have to ask, does BVM stand for Bob Violet Models?........He is a member of our club here in Sanford, Florida
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Ron, I'm proud to say that it does. 99% of my flying is with a BVM Jet. However I like to warm up and have alittle fun with the electric foamies and off and on with a gasser. I love warbirds.

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