RC Warbirds and Warplanes Discuss rc warbirds and warplanes in this forum.

ESM Fairey Swordfish "Stringbag"

Reply
Old 05-08-2010, 05:22 PM
  #251
Ram-bro
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bennington, NE
Posts: 5,704
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

well the build is comlete, I have a few minor things to do. The balance appears right on. Just for those who are doing removeable wings, I have a set screw on the upper wing spar. I am guessing this will be enough to hold the wings on. I may have it up in the air by next weekend pending the weather.
Ram-bro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2010, 02:00 AM
  #252
FNQFLYER
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cairns, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,053
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

What size rods are you using? I was considering 1/8th carbon fibre arrow shafts. I am looking at Hitec micro servos for the choke and throttle servos. All batteries will be NiMH of at least 1000Mah. I am using 2 to the R/x (redundancy, by putting one in the normal battery point and one other in a surplus point on the R/X) and 1 of course to the CDI. All 3will have JR Gold switches. I am using a mix of Spectrum digital servos (the ones that come with the DSX 7 and Hitec 645MG's at this pointfor the rudder and elevator, push rods for the elevator (2 servos) and one servo for the rudder with 20kg fishing trace (plastic coated) for the pull pull system on the rudder. These will have adjustable ends to ensure correct cable tension.
Any comments people please
FNQFLYER is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2010, 02:01 AM
  #253
FNQFLYER
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cairns, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,053
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Forgot, the DSX 7 servos (4 off ) will be used for the ailerons with that JR Multibox thingy
FNQFLYER is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 03:04 PM
  #254
Robert Bishop
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Brampton, ON, CANADA
Posts: 31
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

I am almost finished. It has been a long, slow and sometimes frustrating build. I have 4 aileron servos working well with differential. My JR 10X transmitter has the aileron differential program available and I added two mix programs for the other 2 servos. Now have complete control over all 4 and can change amount of differential as well as total throw and end point adjustments. If any one is interested I can explain how I did it. (I did get help from JR via a phone call and they were very good)

My last problem to solve is how to attach the wings and prevent them moving spanwise on the tube and upper wing spar. I cannot see an obvious solution. Has any one an idea? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. The upper and lower wings slide off as a pair .
Robert Bishop is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 05:12 PM
  #255
Ram-bro
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bennington, NE
Posts: 5,704
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Robert, I have a setscrew going into the upper wing composite spar. I am hopeing that the al. tube being as long as it is and the set screw will be enough. I hope to maybe have some video this upcoming weekend of the 1st flight. How did our buddy overseas do it? After seeing Hodges B29 shed a wing while in a flat spin.....its making me rethink some of this. I may add another set of guidewires to the interior wing. The thought of two more guide wires running from one wing panel across and thru the center and across to the other panel is a possibility. Another potential fix would be to once again add removeable guide wires and attach them somewhere in or on the fuse.
Ram-bro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 06:07 PM
  #256
Robert Bishop
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Brampton, ON, CANADA
Posts: 31
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Ram-bro,-thanks for the idea-I will add screws to the composite spar as you suggested. I have an idea for the bottom wings, I will try it out tomorrow and let you know how it works out.

Many thanks

Bob
Robert Bishop is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 07:02 PM
  #257
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Hey If ya'll look at the KMP stuf they use to hole the wing together with rubber bands. For the first flights of mine I am going to use a small clear zip tie on the lower wing and probably a set screw or a guide wire like rambo said on the top wing...

Ty
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 10:15 PM
  #258
Ram-bro
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bennington, NE
Posts: 5,704
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

how are you using the zip tys TY? Boy that s hard to say......
Ram-bro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 10:23 PM
  #259
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

inner struts to outer struts on top of the bottom wing...they are right beside each other where the wing plugs in..
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 10:30 PM
  #260
Ram-bro
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bennington, NE
Posts: 5,704
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

I will check that out Ty. That would be simple enuff
Ram-bro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2010, 10:35 PM
  #261
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

to make if that works you could always put a small bolt throught it there ...

ty
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2010, 02:34 PM
  #262
Robert Bishop
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Brampton, ON, CANADA
Posts: 31
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Ram Bro and Ty and fockewulf37,
I have finished bolting on the wings. I tapped the upper composite spar  6-32 and used socket head cap screws to lock it in. On the bottom wings I drilled through the wing strut and into the landing gear upper strut, then tapped the upper strut 6-32. The tapped hole is on a bit of an angle but it looks OK. I have a photo but do not know how to post it. If some one could give me an idea as to how to post photos I will be glad to do so.

Many thanks for all your help.

 Bob
Robert Bishop is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2010, 03:00 PM
  #263
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Bob,
You have go to the post reply at bottom of page. It has option there on the next page for adding photos.
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2010, 06:00 PM
  #264
Robert Bishop
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Brampton, ON, CANADA
Posts: 31
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Wu59530.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	62.1 KB
ID:	1434479  
Robert Bishop is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2010, 06:02 PM
  #265
Robert Bishop
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Brampton, ON, CANADA
Posts: 31
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Thanks Ty-hope the photo is useful

Bob
Robert Bishop is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2010, 07:10 PM
  #266
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

That is what I was talking about ... perfectfor holding the wing together...

Ty
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2010, 09:34 PM
  #267
zoomer199
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 104
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Has anyone found a source for pilots?
zoomer199 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2010, 11:14 PM
  #268
Ram-bro
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bennington, NE
Posts: 5,704
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Robert, excellent idea. I will do the same for mine
Ram-bro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2010, 03:11 PM
  #269
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

I know I have been slow but I have been really busy with family stuff.

Well I mounted the cowl mount onto the fuse just like the manual says except I use Goop along with the screws.
I also mounted the cowl ring into the cowl itself with goop. I feel that it just holds better over a long period of time.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Vt57485.jpg
Views:	60
Size:	60.4 KB
ID:	1435480   Click image for larger version

Name:	Je99479.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	69.8 KB
ID:	1435481  
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2010, 03:31 PM
  #270
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

I was going to try A123 batteries in this plane but there is just not enought room for the packs in the cowl. So I ordered me new 5 cell lipos that I think will fit in the cowl. The next thing I did was to mount the motor. If you look into the front of the cowl area the circle in the firewall is not centered. I alway mount the cowls on my planes first and then mount the motor so i can get ihem centered. First I made a stand off to get the motor out into the cowl area. I want the standoff to be one piece and to be flush to the front of the cowl mounting ring. I used several pieces of 3/4" ply and glued them together to the right thickness. I then mark my holes and drilled the hole all the way throught the standoff.
I then set up the fuse vertically. Its best and easiest of the rudder and elevatorsare not on the plane already. Once the fuse is vertical. I take the motor and place it on the standoff and put the correct size screw but shorter than the standoff. I then with cowl in place put wood glue on the base of the standoff and set it on the firewall.
I then make sure the propshaft is centered in the cowl. Once this is done I let it set overnight . Once the glue is dry I then drill the hole on through the firewall. When I need really long bolts I make them from threaded rod. I also had to make some round standoffs to gwet the motor to the correct position. I put locknuts on the back of the bolts and washers . I push these through the back of the firewall and then mount the motor with lock nuts on the front....

Ty
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Qo39993.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	116.9 KB
ID:	1435490   Click image for larger version

Name:	To43141.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	101.2 KB
ID:	1435491   Click image for larger version

Name:	Kp32840.jpg
Views:	51
Size:	129.4 KB
ID:	1435492   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ic83390.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	103.9 KB
ID:	1435493   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ep84365.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	87.7 KB
ID:	1435494  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Sj72498.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	75.4 KB
ID:	1435495   Click image for larger version

Name:	Oq21492.jpg
Views:	41
Size:	101.0 KB
ID:	1435496   Click image for larger version

Name:	Rp54808.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	131.2 KB
ID:	1435497   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mk87124.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	91.5 KB
ID:	1435498   Click image for larger version

Name:	An65551.jpg
Views:	44
Size:	101.3 KB
ID:	1435499  

fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2010, 05:38 PM
  #271
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

I got a little more work done. I am planning on putting the lipo batteries in the cowl. The ones I plan on using will fit in the cowl itself. I decided that i need to make the cowl mount a little stronger. I made some brackets out of 1/8 A/C ply. I installed them into the back of the cowl ring with epoxy. This will double the amount of area that holds the cowl in place. I also took a heavy duty cardboard tube and made a cover for the motor. This will protect the batteries from hitting the motor . It will also help keep the batteries in place...I will have to remove the prop and batteries each time. I am trying to figure out if I can use the dummy motor with this setup to make it look better...Also if anyone messes up there Radial motor I made a plug for it.. I figured I would have to cut mine and wanted to be able to replace it if needed...

Ty
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Us55342.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	92.1 KB
ID:	1436079   Click image for larger version

Name:	Xs57963.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	75.0 KB
ID:	1436080   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pv53007.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	83.4 KB
ID:	1436081   Click image for larger version

Name:	Wp41336.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	65.8 KB
ID:	1436082  
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2010, 04:12 AM
  #272
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

BTW has anyone verified the CG location on this plane?? I am about ready to check the CG and want to make sure it is right....

Ty
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2010, 03:09 PM
  #273
Ram-bro
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bennington, NE
Posts: 5,704
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Ty ,wish I could tell you but still havent flown mine as I had planned
Ram-bro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2010, 03:22 PM
  #274
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Hey, If the balance point is as marked in the manual mine is balanced perfectly.. The flying wires are functional on this one right??? The top wing will move if they were not on the plane?? I am making a fix for the torpedo. It will have a shroud and prop blades LIKE THE REAL ONE!!! Ty

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bz78402.jpg
Views:	43
Size:	201.4 KB
ID:	1437123  
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2010, 08:22 AM
  #275
fockewulf37
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: kannapolis, NC
Posts: 2,350
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish

Ok I am reall excited. I just finished up the tail fin for the Torpedo. I think it turned out really nice. I designed a easy to put together kit that will include all the parts to make it except for a couple of washers used as spacers... Anyway I took the torpedo and cut off the fins and sanded the rear smooth. The retro kit is all built up and you just slide it into place. You do have to install a hardpint in the rear of the torpedo for the propellers. But that is easy. I will have a video up on how to put it together later today....


Ty
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Ca82928.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	62.8 KB
ID:	1437737   Click image for larger version

Name:	Av70041.jpg
Views:	32
Size:	62.8 KB
ID:	1437738   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ou49577.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	30.8 KB
ID:	1437739   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ys49387.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	68.6 KB
ID:	1437740   Click image for larger version

Name:	Tf49308.jpg
Views:	41
Size:	81.5 KB
ID:	1437741  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Ja41346.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	94.7 KB
ID:	1437742  
fockewulf37 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:47 AM.