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Old 02-19-2012, 01:20 PM
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Just wondering how the Frank's have been doing lately! I finally began assembly of mine a couple weeks ago, and I just putter at it a little at a time. Have been working on the wings first per the plans, and have the flaps and ailerons hinged, and the 4 servos installed in the wings. Was going to install the control horns and linkages but found some 15mm washers are missing, so will go to ACE for that tomorrow. I decided on a Saito 180 for this plane after seeing a ESM Frank with this engine on You Tube, flying in Denver. Nice combo, so I went with it...found a good used 180 here on RCU. Need to get her done for our club warbird weekend during the Memorial Day weekend. Someone post up some pics or vids of their Frank to get my juices flowing more! Jon
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:42 AM
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Even though I've had mine for a year, I'm afraid I also just started putting my Frank together. I have the wing together...used robart horns and mocked up the Sierra retracts. I just started the stabalizer. I think I'm going to use the pull-pull for the elevator even though I've heard some against them. I think I had pull-pull on my Dave Patrick Ultimate without problems. I'll be careful to keep them tight.

I'm thinking of using a new JC-28 that's been sitting since I got it around a year ago. I've heard about the bad press on these engines, but I'll test run it before I decide whether to use it or not.

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Old 03-04-2012, 12:42 PM
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Where can I get this cockpit kit?
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:59 PM
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[link=http://www.vqwarbirds.com/product_info.php?cPath=43&products_id=94&osCsid=8b87d08857e444cb7a3d2e931f36eee0]VQ Warbirds[/link] has them.

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Old 03-04-2012, 07:39 PM
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ed42d, at least you got your wing halves joined. I am behind you. I used the stock horns for the ailerons, but don't like them all that much, so will use something else for the flaps and other surfaces. Maybe I can find some Robarts like yours. Doesn't attaching the Sierras to the blocks in the wings look like a little challenge? I think the laminated ply and phenolic board look like they were cut a little large for the Sierras, such that the mounting screws will be close to the edges of the wood. Jon
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For the Sierra's, I had to dremel the formers toward the top of the wing to get the retracts to sit square. Also the pin in the retract moves and I needed a little grove to get the pin by the former. I hope I didn't weaken the former too much.

I've mounted the JC-28 and will probably have to add cowl blocks to the cowl ring similar what I saw someone do earlier in this thread.
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Even though I've had mine for a year, I'm afraid I also just started putting my Frank together. I have the wing together...used robart horns and mocked up the Sierra retracts. I just started the stabalizer. I think I'm going to use the pull-pull for the elevator even though I've heard some against them. I think I had pull-pull on my Dave Patrick Ultimate without problems. I'll be careful to keep them tight.

I'm thinking of using a new JC-28 that's been sitting since I got it around a year ago. I've heard about the bad press on these engines, but I'll test run it before I decide whether to use it or not.

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Just a small info - the retracts as they come from Darell have the legs turned around.
But than the gear doors are not flush.
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Just a small info - the retracts as they come from Darell have the legs turned around.
But than the gear doors are not flush.
thanks Vik...I didn't notice that. After looking at the other pics of the landing gear in this thread, I see what you mean. I'll have to turn them around later.


I also tried to put the cowl on to see how the engine fits. Unfortunately, the front of the engine is hitting the bottom of the front cowl. I'd have to do some chopping which I would hate to do. I may have to look at other engines like the Zenoah that other guy's have used.


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Old 03-05-2012, 10:18 PM
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No problem
I'm actually building second one as the first one was lost last year.
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Old 03-06-2012, 04:30 PM
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Thanks ed42d. Ordered and on the way.
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Mine came turned the right way, but I am finding that with the gear in, the tires will hit the top sheeting (I don't have the well in yet), and so I am going to need to either dremel away the tip side of the mount in order to raise the tire in the well, or use shims/washers on the fuse side of the mount to accomplish the same thing. The mounts don't sit flat. ed42d is this the same problem yours had?
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Old 03-10-2012, 06:29 PM
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Haven't done much with the retracts except to mount them. I had to dremel some of the formers to get the retract to sit. I haven't tried to use the well. I may just paint the inside of the wing and not use the well.

I'm about finished with the tail surfaces and mounted the cockpit. I only added a pilot to keep it simple.
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:42 PM
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Your landing gear plate might not lay flat on the wood mounts when you turn your struts around. That is what I mean by mine not laying flat. I think I will go to ACE tomorrow for washers (for shims) and wood screws to mount the LG. Where'd you get the pilot...is he the right scale? I need to get one. Jon
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:03 PM
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My son gave me that pilot. He did the paint work. It seems to fit ok.

ESM has a 1/6 scale pilot which I also have. It's a little larger and would need to be cut down at the base.

I got that here:
[link=http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/ESM-PT16-JAPANESE.html]TBM[/link]

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ed42d, thanks for the tip on the pilot at TBM! I am going to get one. Jon

OOPS, the shipping is more than the cost of the pilot! Trapped again.
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Hi Guys
Can you help me with this:
what is the dimensions TY is mentioning in the build video (part 2) for the cockpit cut?
Is it 1/4¨rear and 1/16¨ up front?
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Vic,

Yak se mash!

He says 1/4" at the rear, and 9/16 at the front.

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Old 03-24-2012, 11:58 AM
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Thank you Casey

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Neruzamin? lol its been too long since I've tried to speak your language. But I still remember the beautiful girl who taught me... Lol

glad I could help

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Hi All,

This is from my Mk.II
New hatch for batteries and ESC placement


I'm considering respraying it as well. But I might do it later in the year if it will survive the season
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Hey guys,
I have one of these RTF......I want to sell..........6 flights on it.

email me, I'll give ya all the info.
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My progress is still slow, but I have the Sierra retracts temporarily mounted in the wings now. I can tell this will give lots of toe-in. I think I see just one bolt that holds the strut to the casing...it is in the center of this pic. Is that what I use to rotate the strut to remove some of the toe-in? Thanks. Jon
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yes that is correct
You have to only permit it slightly. Than you will be able to rotate the leg or take it out.
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Hi All,

This is the pilot I got from Ty. I thing it is some sort of universal, but fits nicely.

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Hey guys here is an early mock up of the cockpit kit.......

I don't have any more of these pilots ....


Ty
Ty, what pilot figure is that you are using? Are they still available?
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