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Old 04-08-2012, 02:39 AM
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Yes I still have them. Email me Fockewulf37@ctc.net
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:30 AM
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Hi All
Small update:
I made ducting for the oil cooler. Underneath there is a hole for hot air to go from the motor and ESC



I hope to have it up and ready during this week
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:15 PM
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Wow, I got my wing together with the servos and retracts installed. I don't have the LG doors or the "belly pan" on yet, but so far the wing weighs a hair over 5 pounds! I have to think that is typical, but it surprised me to feel the weight of the wing! BTW this is with Sierra retracts. Jon
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:27 PM
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Wow, I got my wing together with the servos and retracts installed. I don't have the LG doors or the ''belly pan'' on yet, but so far the wing weighs a hair over 5 pounds! I have to think that is typical, but it surprised me to feel the weight of the wing! BTW this is with Sierra retracts. Jon

Five pounds on a wing this size with retracts and flaps is not out of line at all. Pretty light actually!
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:23 AM
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Thanks Chad...good to know! Jon
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:43 AM
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Would someone who used air retracts post a pic of their internals of the fuselage with the air tank in it? I am doing my first air retracts (Sierra) on this warbird. Thank you! Jon
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:47 AM
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HELP pls...still looking for some help. I think the large tank sent to me by Sierra is too big. I had to saw away part of the bulkhead under the servo tray to slide the tank in there, and then the center servos will hit the that tank. Hmmmm, so I am thinking of getting a smaller tank, however I wonder if they have volume enough for the Sierras? Anybody with any ESM planes having the same prob and what was your solution. I would be grateful for some help. Jon
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:56 AM
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Can't you put the tank in the belly of the plane? Secure it with velcro and you sould be ok.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:09 PM
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I have the ESM72" Spitfire. I use a standard size air tank with my Robart retracts and can get ten cycles on one air charge. I don't own anySierra retract gear, but I don't see why you should need a large air tank. I have large tank for my GS TF Corsair, but it's a 86"WS and will be close to 30LB and uses the Robart gear made for it.

Try a regular size air tank and see how many cycles you get. If you get five solid cycles, that should be good enough. You can always add air after each flight, and in fact should do that anyway.

I will try to send a pic of my Spit set up when i get home.

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Old 05-17-2012, 01:50 PM
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Bob H, I get the sneaking suspicion the plane will turn out tail heavy, so I want to put the tank at or forward of the CG, not behind, thus above (when the plane is upright) the servo tray.

Me410, thanks for advice on the Robart tank. I will look it up...what size is yours? I only ask because itemss change over time. Would like to see your layout, so thanks for posting a pic, in advance. Jon
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Old 05-17-2012, 02:46 PM
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I haven't done much work on mine...only tried to mount the Zenoah 26. It didn't fit completely in the cowl. I think i have the larger Robart tank. It should fit ok, but that's next.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:45 PM
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Here's my pics, I will just try 2 at a time due to download size.

What I call a standard Robart air tank is about 6 1/2" tall and about 1 3/4" across.

While we all try to keep as much weight forward with a warbird, I think one of the things you can cheat on is the air tank. It's very light, but also bulky. Most of my planes have the tank behind the COG, so I have more room to get the heavy stuff forward.

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Can't get the pics to work, will try again
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:47 PM
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:00 PM
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I used " Resizeit utillity " Lets see if that downloads better.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:10 PM
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That worked well. just going to try the next size up at 450x600 pix


BTY, that "stick" taped to the tank is to help secure the tank, the stick slides into a slot at the rearward bulkhead and then the velcro strap wrapsthrough the attachment glued to the fuse and keeps the tank from going anywhere.

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Old 05-18-2012, 06:09 AM
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The pics are helpful Me410, so thanks. That really illustrates how huge my tank is compared to yours. Mine looks more the size that ed42d shows in his plane. So I measured mine...it is 9 1/2" long by 2 1/2" diameter. I think I will be ordering a smaller tank from somewhere. Your pics also show me your valve installation, which is helpful. Thanks again. Jon
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:45 AM
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Hi All

I tried to add some weathering
Just I'm not sure about the outcome

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:35 AM
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Hello guys,

Can I get a report on how you all like or dislike your KI84? I'm getting ready to move back to Oahu, so I need alittle something from the Pacific theater of operations I think. I would love an 80" Zero, but it's not been released as of yet(rumored to be in development though)

So the Ki84 it will be, unless you all tell me it flys like a turd. I'm an electric guy, so I would be going that direction as well. What is the average weights on your builds? Sierras still available I assume?
Pros and cons of this kit?

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Old 11-07-2012, 10:19 AM
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Hi Casey,
Had mine for a year or so, flies like a beaut. Powered by eflite power160 on 10s 5000mAh ( 2x5s ) 18x12 turnigy cherry wood prop, could go larger but is adequate at 1440 Metres asl where I fly here in sunny south africa. Just a tad over 7kg flying weight. Using esm retracts, so far so good even tho flying off grass field. Be aware that the pull-pull wires supplied are not the best you could use. I think this has been mentioned earlier in this thread.
Fitted Ty's cockpit kit too. Looks good.
Good machine, I think you will like it.
The attached pic if it attaches, is just after the maiden.

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jrtal,

thank you sir! Thats exactly what I hoped to hear. I too will use the same setup as you have, (Eflite 160, CC HV120, TP 5000mAh 5 cell x2) Its a great setup ,I have it in 3 other planes as well.

Now to get Ian Radshaw to show me how he weathered his(on VQ's site)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSa6...e_gdata_player

here is a link to Ians plane

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Old 11-27-2012, 09:41 PM
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hey VIK that oil cooler is a great idea im going to do that to mine, she`s already for her maiden this weekend.

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Nice looking plane Rifraff, how did you do the weathering? Silver pen and some 0000 steel wool?

Thanks,

Casey

Mine will probably stay in the box until I get moved back to Hawaii. I already have to build crates for 6 other giant scale warbirds...


Btw...I'm not sure the cat approves lol. Looks like he's trying to smell it's tail to figure out what kind of beast it is LOL

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thanks glazier808. the weathering I did with testors aluminum paint a small brush and several hours lol, I also pulled out my old airbrush kit and just went nuts adding the rest of the weathering.
today was her maiden and she did great with the CG set at 105mm however I did need allot of down trim, not because she was tail heavy but because I installed the motor right side up so the
motor sits below the center line so im gonna add more down thrust, but once she was trimmed she flue flawlessly.
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g26i will fit fully enclosed
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