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Old 10-26-2010, 05:30 PM
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Charlie,

The offset kind of threw me off when I first saw it. I took the photo by sitting center fuselage, on top of the center rail of the forward canopies. I asked my friends who maintain and fly this aircraft about it at the museum, and they told me all Skyraiders were built this way. Heck, I don’t know myself, but I will go by with a tape and measure the offset from centerline fuselage and photograph it. I do not plan on changing your design for my build. I am not that skilled to go making changes to a known good flier. I just thought there may be some interest in seeing the way it looks.

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For those that don't know me I'm the Boyd in the previous pics.I thought I'd surf the neighborhood to see how the progress was comming. YAT-28 you have WARBIRDRCER beat hands down. Looks like you are on your way.

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Old 10-26-2010, 09:14 PM
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Hey Maser, get back to your T-28 where you belong. How did you find this thread anyhow. Oh I know, your wife told you how to spell AD-5. Say, we flying Saturday and Sunday? I just finished up the silver covering repairs on the P-47 tonight. Now I have to finish Mike's F4-U, Kaitlin's car repairs, and then rig the jets nose gear. I am going to fly it at our field before the season is over. What are you bringing this weekend? Also the T-28 is looking very good. I posted your thread link here if anyone wants to see your handy work. By the way, want me to come by and help with it?[sm=lol.gif]

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_93..._5/key_/tm.htm

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A warning to you fellow modelers. Do not allow WARBIRDRCER in your shop. Something is liable to happen. You need to catch up with YAT-28.
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Firebar,

Took more photos of the vert stab assy on the AD-5. I plan to cut a template to fit one side and place it on the other to see if I can capture the offset distance. This is one of those have to know before it drives me nuts.[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
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I hope that you guys are getting a little work done on your Skyraiders.

I have been working on mine almost every day since it has been to windy to fly. I had to make cowlings today so I didn't get anything done.
I have been making a lot of progress on the wing and hope to post photos and may be a video in the next few days. Why a video you ask?

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Firebar,

Tell me the video is of the folding wing system for the AD-5.[sm=surprised.gif] I wish I could say I have been productive, but []. It is still on the building table and my summer/fall projects are about at a point where I can spool back up on the AD-5. Maser, don't you dare, you know what happened last time you did that. You do not want me to come and help you on the T-28 now do you.

SBD, How have you been doing. Thought about calling a couple of times to check in on ya.

Everyone have a very Merry Christmas.
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I got some time in the shop yesterday and took some photos of my progress to date. I have been working on a wing fold mechanism for the Skyraider for some time and after three attempts I finally have one that I am happy with. Wing folds on smaller models can use a servo to fold the wing but they will not handle the weight of the larger wings. The systems that I have seen currently in use on giant scale models use a $600 battery operated hydraulic pump with hydraulic valves and oil reservoir. I wanted to use a less complicated system that operates on compressed air and still uses oil to allow motion control.
See what you think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OMw0..._order&list=UL

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What a great videographer who could have done that! WOW, that is so cool. I can't even get the aileron and flap completed for one side. I need a building table in my office at work!
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Charlie,

The wing system looks like it works great. Are you going to offer the changes to the drawing for the modifications and parts requirements, or are you going to offer a kit for the install?

Either way I would like to have the option now for the system. I bought parts and materials to try and make the mod for mine, but the flying season and non-hobby obligations kept me tied up all spring and summer.

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Old 12-04-2010, 04:46 PM
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SBD,

Good to hear from you. I understand the need for a build table at my office, but a few less family autos to work on would help me out too. Seems every time I think I have time to build I end up repairing aircraft from flight use, or a time critical task comes up. The dead of winter has a way of isolating me in my shop for building, so we will see.
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Charlie,
All I can say is that I am still wipeing the drool off my keyboard, as always you find new ways to impress us with your engineering and building accumen.
Very nice work as always. On an other note I finally got 1 outboard flap ready for bottom sheeting thanks to yourself and Noah for all your insight and help it is always appreciated.


Again what a nice piece of engineering

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Outstanding Charlie
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I still have a way to go to complete this bird. I don't want to offer the wing fold system until I have flight tested it. I hope to fly this plane at Warbirds Over Delaware next July and will figure out how to offer it by then. I would like to be able to offer the finished hinges if I can connect with someone that has a water jet cutting system.

I hope to find a new DA-85 under the tree Christmas morning.

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Charlie,

Understood. Sign of a great designer and builder. Keep me updated on the ststem. Concerning the production of parts, could a CNC machine be used to cut the parts?

Thanks, looks very nice. Hope you get the DA-85.
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I had a set of parts made in a machine shop and they cost me $600. I got another quote from a CNC guy and it was slightly more plus he needed a set up cost. It is all about the time it takes to cut four copies of each part to make a set. These parts would be perfect for a water jet cutter even if I had to add some drilled holes with the drill press. Most of them cut multiple pieces at the same time so once the program is set up it cuts them out very quickly.

On with the building...

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Here are some pics of the right nav light on the AD-5. If more are needed let me know.
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Here are some pics of the left nav light on the AD-5. If more are needed let me know
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Thanks for the photos Steve.

I have been working on my Skyraider this week. I decided to make the drop tanks drop on this plane which lead me to the realization that the wing pylons would need to be hollow to have a servo mounted in them. I made a plug of the pylon and laid up a mold to make them in fiberglass. I cast two pylons and made a plywood armature to hold the servo and the drop mechanism.

Now back to the wing sheeting...

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Charlie,

Great idea. I hope this is another option you will be offering for the AD-5 builders. Keep me informed on the wing system too. Any more photos you need, please let me know. This aircraft has no wing drop tanks, but the pylons are there. Here is a photo I happened to take one day, and also the center fuselage drop tank is installed on this aircraft too.
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Well, I can finally post some new photos. Not as impressive as Charlie's but it's progress!!!! I have been having fun flying this season and regained tons of confidence. How it time to build again. I left off with one wing half completed. So here are some photos of the flap and aileron for the other side. Once I get these completed I will be able to connect the two wing half together. Hope this is the first of many photos to come...still can.t see the finish line yet.
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SBD,

Glad to hear from you. Looks good. I had better get busy or you will really smoke me and my AD-5. Keep the progress photos coming.

Thanks and Merry Christmas. Any special AD-5 request for a gift from Santa.
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Steve, I will make the pylons available to those who are interested. Send me an email for pricing and delivery. firebar@aol.com

I have been keeping busy with the drop tanks and now I am ready to finish sheeting the wing center section.

I hope you all have a Merry Christmas

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Santa came through with the DA-85 and muffler that I wanted for this plane. I will have to get back to the fuselage to fit it up.

I have been working on the wings this week and I am getting them close to being ready for fiber glassing. I am working on shaping the leading edge and the wing tips. Next will be the work on the wing tip lights.

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