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Old 12-30-2010, 07:02 PM
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Hey Charlie,
Glad Santa brought you the DA, isn't it a beauty, can't wait until we finally mount it on our Avenger. As always you manage to keep impressing us with your building accumen and engineering.

Happy Holidays to all
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Old 01-09-2011, 05:57 PM
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I did get some work done on the aileron and flap. I got them both skinned. I have to cover the outboard wing panel to be able to mount the control surface later this week. I will take photos later this week and post them. I would like to get the wing halves together within the next two weeks....got to dream at least ! Charlie and I did get out Jan 1 to our clubs Frost fly. We had a great time... First time we every did that.
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:05 PM
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Here are the photos of both wings. This seemed like a long time coming. I also have a photo of the pylons for the wings. Contact Charlie for information. Not sure if he is listing for sale??? Won't get them together this week for our club meeting. Have to go to Saratoga Springs for three days.
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Glad to see that you are making some progress. It looks like the plane will start coming together more quickly now.

I have been working on my Skyraider as time allows. I got the DA-85 mounted and the cowling fit to the engine. I am very pleased with the way the engine mounted to the engine box. I just slid the box in until the prop clearance was right and epoxied it in place.
I also got the wing fit and mounted to the fuselage. There are still lots of things to work on but it is nice to see the plane coming together.

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Old 01-27-2011, 01:52 PM
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We have been getting lots of snow over the last two days here in the northeast. The only thing to do is work on the plane. It seems that there is always one more thing to do before you can start glassing. I gave the wing a final look, filled a few dings, and got busy with the glass cloth. I hope to glass the top of the wing tomorrow.
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Charlie,

Glad you brought up fiberglassing. What is the method you like? Type cloth, resin, thin the resin or not, brush on, squeegee on, or sponge. I have been helping with a couple of planes here that or previous projects. One is a P-51 TF Kit modified to a B model that my son won at 9 months old at his first Warbird fly-in. I would like for him to have it at Warbirds Over Oklahoma this year to fly with me. Here he is helping glass it last week. The other is a friends TF P-40, and the wing is for another friends Dave Platt ME-109.
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Charlie,
As always you never fail to impress. We got 18+ inches last night and I had to be in work this morning. You guys going to the Wram show?
We are closing in on the Avenger, got the wing spaces micro ballooned and are now fitting the canopy, hope to get the flaps covered next week as well as the tail feathers
How did you enjoy the film of the WWII carriers and the Avengers taking off


Keep up the great work

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Old 01-29-2011, 08:50 AM
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I have been getting my .6 oz cloth from CST at cstsales.com. I buy 10 yards by 50" and it does two planes. I have been getting the epoxy from EZ Lam, but I am sure that any finishing epoxy works equally well. I mix the epoxy and thin it 50% with 91% alcohol and apply it with a playing card. This is pretty standard, and I am sure you can find some detailed discussions here on RCU. The debate starts with the next coat. I used to apply a second coat of un thinned epoxy with a plastic credit card to fill the cloth weave. After reading some discussions here on RCU I decided to fill the weave with sandable primer instead. I think it fills the weave better and should be lighter than epoxy. It usually takes two to three coats of primer sanded between coats.

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The video had some great shots of Avengers doing what they do. Thanks for the youtube link.
I won't make the WRAM show this year.
I will l look for your progress posts on the Avenger build thread.

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Got some building time this weekend. I was able to get the wing halves together, connect the leading edges. I separated the outer wings and its was a snap. I was a little worried about cutting the aileron and bomb drop servo wires. Got lucky and must have pulled them back out of the way. Must have been dumb luck!!! I placed the wing pin into the leading edge and ran the plumbing for the retracts. I secured the hinges for the flaps the the ribs with a spacer block and some epoxy. The wing sits nice and flat on the table and dihedral is perfect.

This is how I set the center section
1. Set the dihedral of both wing with braces so the center section is flat on the board. Braces measure: 4-3/8" to elevate the wing tip. see photo
2. Test fit both halves and make sure all braces are a nice tight fit
3. I ran a string down the main spar for wing tip to wing tip (this is to be sure the center spar in perfectly straight)
4. Separated the halves and mixed lots of epoxy and spread fast.
5. Rejoined the halves, realigned one final time and clamped together.
6. Weighed down the center section until it was flat on the building table.

This was a very productive weekend......and lots of fun!!!!!
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Old 01-31-2011, 05:21 AM
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Charlie,
How do you install the outer wings screw to hold the wing onto the center section? I know your way was much easier than the way I have done in the pass.
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Got some time yesterday to work on the Skyraider. I started to install the flap servos and construct the trays. Here are a couple photos of the tray. Hope to get them installed today and connect the linkage. Will post more photos of the linkage connection later in the week.
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I have been using a piece of 1/4"x 1/2" x 2" Plywood. I epoxy it into the outer wing rib and onto the bottom wing sheeting. Mount a #6-32 blind nut on the end and drill a matching hole on the inner wing panel. I then add a piece of 1/16 ply on the outside of the inner bottom sheeting for the wing bolt to bear on. I hope the photo makes it clearer than the words.

I haven't made much progress in the last few days. I managed to finish glassing the top of the wing, flaps and the ailerons.

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SBD,
Interesting way to mount the servo; not using the four grommets.
What are the advantages of this type of mount?
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Hey Samparfitt,
They are locked in with the three wooden blocks. I use one of the servos with wax paper around it to set the size. They are alot easier to access and remove ..just undo the strap and the servo can be removed. No fighting with getting an angle screwdriver in there to get at the screws. I have been using this method for a few years now and have never had a failure. I only use this in the wing for flaps and ailerons where space is tight. Hope that is not a jinx!
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Thanks for the photo. Makes total sense now!
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Got a few hours here and there this weekend. So I took advantage of it! The flap servos are installed and the linkage connected. I also got the center section sheeted. Here are a couple photos of the wing progress. Hope to get the G10 trailing edges cut and installed this week. Should go through alot of exacto blades cutting this stuff!!!!!!
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SBD, Great work. I have been keeping up with yours and FireBar's builds.
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Nice to hear from you. I have been watching your build also. When do you think you will you'll get back to the Skyraider? Charlie as caught up to me with his build...well more like pasted me! Going to the WRAM show at the end of the month with a couple of friends. When do you think you will have those rims ready to sell? Need to find a new source for 5.5" wheels...know of any?
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I seem to be at that point in the build when you work and work and don't seem to get anywhere. I made a little balsa plug for the wing tip lights and vacuum formed the parts. Then formed the lens covers with another plug. Put it all together, filled the edges, primered them and they look like this.

Now on to mounting the elevator.

Fran, the wing is looking good. Keep up the good work.

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Charlie,
Nice job on the wing tip lights, believe it or not we formed the ones for the Avenger by gluing th plug to a piece of hardwood and and then taking the bubble packaging from a flashlight and heating them with a heat gun. WIll send some pix as soon as we mount them. Sorry you won't be at the WRAM show it would have been great to chat


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Got more work done on the Skyraider this weekend. I was able to sand the center section to a fairly nice finish. I got the leading edge on the center section and the trailing edges (G10) on the outer panels. Really starting to take shape. Here are two pixs of the fuselage sitting on the center section and one outer panel in place. I was able to get the leading edges on the outer panels too! Headed to the WRAM show on saturday. Need to get a shopping list together!
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Steve,
Can you get me some photos of the front canopy area. I would like to see the top rail between the two pilots and along the top of the center windows. Do the pilots canopies open and slide under or above that section. I would like to split the pilots canopies so they can open independently. Does the center beam run down the center of the entire canopy. Call me tonight if this doesn't make sense to you! Hope you still have my cell number.
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Can you get me some photos of the front canopy area. I would like to see the top rail between the two pilots and along the top of the center windows. Do the pilots canopies open and slide under or above that section. I would like to split the pilots canopies so they can open independently. Does the center beam run down the center of the entire canopy. Call me tonight if this doesn't make sense to you! Hope you still have my cell number.
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Fran,

I will stop by the museum after work tomorrow and get those photos for you. I will also shoot a video of the canopy operation for the front left and right sides.
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SBD, Sorry it took so long to get these for you. Work kept me out of town. So by the time I goy off the museum was closed. I went there this morning since I was off work.
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