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Old 12-04-2009, 05:47 PM
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I've decided to maybe join the great ranks of P-51s out there, but which one? 60 to 1.20 FS size. I want to use an RCGF 20 cc rear carb gas engine that I already have. Partial to Spring Air Retracts. Hanger 9 Blue Nose, Sig P-51B or Great Planes P-51. All are close to the same size and all have flaps and all are available at local shops around here. Which would you choose and why? The 20cc gasser weights 38 oz with muffler and ignition.

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Old 12-04-2009, 07:03 PM
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KMP because they have the best scale outline, size and finish in my opinion and simply superior all round for me for this size of ARF P-51. Also there is a great range of after market accessories available for upgrades such as Sierra retracts and Dragon pilot figures.

http://www.kmp.ca/product_info.php?c...d8fff3530f17ce
http://www.kmp.ca/product_info.php?c...d8fff3530f17ce
http://www.sierraprecision.com/prod13.html
http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/70094-p2.html
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:05 PM
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I had over 50 hours on my "stock" Sig P-51B before I donated it to another person. It was by far the best flying plane for the money. It was totally stock, except I was using electric power. Not one problem with the plane.


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Old 12-04-2009, 07:08 PM
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Since you have flown 17 years I would recommend the Top Flite mustang. It has good flight characteristics and a proven design. The Sig plane would be next of the planes you list. Another mustang you might want to consider is the world/airborne models mustang. It's not quite as scale as the Top Flite but flies a bit better.

I have flown the Top Flite and the world/airborne so I can vouch for them.

I have always changed the retracts on arfs over to Spring Air - I did not use the world/airborne retracts but changed them over to 700 series Spring Air. The Top Flite mustang I flew was built from the kit and had the Robart 600 series plastic frame retracts Top Flite recommended then - these are very weak retracts and I would highly recommend not to use them . I don't have an opinion on the retracts that come with the Top Flite arf as I haven't looked them over or used them.

Recently I have bought a set of Robarts 700 series air retract/spring extend to try - I haven't mounted them in a plane yet but they look ok. I have been using 7/16 oleos in my retracts for several years now.

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http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/a...t/ESMP51B.html
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:05 PM
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I havn't really considered the EMS P-51, 71" wing span. It cost no more the the smaller ones I mentioned and I would still be able to get it into my vehicle. A 26cc gasser cost less than the Saito 20cc gasser which is probably the only gasser light enough for a 60 size warbird. The cost of the retracts on the VQ Warbirds website is not too bad. Do you have one? Do you have it together, have you flow it?
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I have the P-51B. [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1141908]I am in the process of assembly[/link] , have retracts (was going to use Robart spring air, but decided on the Sierra) on the way and a 26cc gasoline engine for a power plant. It is a sweet looking plane that I am very impressed with. You get a really nice plane for the cost.
I would recommend dealing with Tomas at VQ warbirds. Customer service is top notch and if he tells you something, you can believe him.
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If you get the esm mustang be sure to read the threads about their planes- they have had some issues- especially be careful of the Cg. There aren't many build threads about the mustangs, but KentuckyColonel may sort it out for you. From what I have read here Tomas is the guy to deal with if you go with ESM.

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Old 12-05-2009, 07:30 PM
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I got on Thomas' website and looked at all the EMS planes listed. Oh my God. So many warbirds and so little time, money and space in the basment and garage. P-51B yes, Hellcat coming, P-47, FW 190, all look great. What is one to do? Since most of the 60 size warbirds are a little small for the weight of the 20cc gassers, I guess l'll have to go up in size a notch. Now I have to decide if I want the P-51B or the Hellcat or FW.???
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:36 AM
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I second that ! ESm war birds from Vq especially there P51 d and B version definatly worth a look
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:55 AM
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I third that! I'm looking to get the P-51B too! Possibly running a RCV 120SP, so I can hang a 4-Bladed prop!

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RBean, Here are some pic. of the ESM P-51 I justed finished. They are great planes and Tomas at VQ is who you want to deal with. Here is also some Pic 0of the KI-84 I am finishing
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is that 4 blade prop the same that you use to fly it with or is it for static display only ?
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:17 PM
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I sold the plane to Jim he is going to break the motor in on a 2 blade and then switch to the 4 blade. It is a Zinger 18x5
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