Ram-bro

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it has to be wars..... and or a world war and a good old fashion war.
the list of planes I come up with are
P51, corsair, c47, A26, B29, Bearcat, P60/T33,Skyraider, A4 Skyhawk, T6, Beech staggerwing,phantom,Mig 15, polykarpov bi plane, pt-17 or 16 .....oh I give up, I am obviously over thinking this but not all of these fit the criteria

scalebirdman

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B-29 wasn't at all a failure at high altitude bombing, in fact very much immune to flak and japs had very few fighters to counter it. The reason they went to low level incendary bombing is that the Japaneese cities were made of wood. Wood burns, and incendaries dispurse too much if dropped at high altitude. Also without having to burn fuel to climb and fight the jet stream they could carry a bigger load. Reducing armament also increased payload. Full armament wasn't necessary for night raids.

Still a good guess. It does meet all the clues, except wasn't an initial failure; don't think it's the right answer.

I was thinking Lancaster.

Original Version Manchester was a bust due to engines.
Believe they had some passenger carying versions but not for sure.
But wasn't to my knowledge used by both sides, or saw service in more than 1 war.

Its like I should know the answer, but just hasn't come to me yet.

glasscock

T-34, but not produced by other countries.

Ernie P.

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Evil_Merlin;

Thank you for providing *two* incentives for my current question. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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The two "world wars" were more than 20 years apart (WWI ended November 1918 and WWII began September 1939); so it is a World War and a minor (though well known) war. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Nope. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Nope. But you are thinking outside the box. Good guess. But the plane I am describing was sold to, and produced by, other countries in both its civilian and military versions. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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What warbird am I describing?

First hint: It was flown by both opposing sides, in wartime, as well as serving in several neutral air forces.

Second hint: It was initially considered to be pretty much a failure; as its early models were clearly inferior to other designs produced by its host country. After use in combat, it was withdrawn as being unsatisfactory in performance. Only when redesigned, and assigned to a new role, did it prove successful.

Third hint: Both civilian and military versions were produced; and both versions were sold to, and produced by, other nations.

Fourth hint: Once the plane was redesigned, it was considered to be almost invulnerable.

Fifth hint: It served through two wars.

Sixth hint: It was in service for more than 20 years.

Seventh hint: Original version: Four crewman. Redesigned version: Two crewman.


Thanks; Ernie P.

uncljoe

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How about the North American B 26 Invader (A 26/JD1)
Semper Fi

Ernie P.

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Sorry; wrong plane. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Think, guys. This should be putting you all over it. Thanks; Ernie P.

Third hint: Both civilian and military versions were produced; and both versions were sold to, and produced by, other nations.

Ram-bro

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canberra B57

Ram-bro

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made by th Brits, modified by the Americans, flew for the CIA and NASA as a civil plane. Flew in the Korean and the Viet Nam war.......I gotta find where they fought against each other but iit did serve with the Pakistani's

jonny_hthwy

Ok what about the 747 aka air force one? I have to say you have us all scratching our heads

Ernie P.

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Sorry; no. All of you are overthinking the question. Okay; more hints.

What warbird am I describing?

First hint: It was flown by both opposing sides, in wartime, as well as serving in several neutral air forces.

Second hint: It was initially considered to be pretty much a failure; as its early models were clearly inferior to other designs produced by its host country. After use in combat, it was withdrawn as being unsatisfactory in performance. Only when redesigned, and assigned to a new role, did it prove successful.

Third hint: Both civilian and military versions were produced; and both versions were sold to, and produced by, other nations.

Fourth hint: Once the plane was redesigned, it was considered to be almost invulnerable.

Fifth hint: It served through two wars.

Sixth hint: It was in service for more than 20 years.

Seventh hint: Original version: Four crewman. Redesigned version: Two crewman.

Eighth hint: This plane was almost invulnerable in its redesigned form; because no enemy plane could reach it.


Thanks; Ernie P.

Ram-bro

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u2 or in its original form the f102?

Ernie P.

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No sir. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ram-bro

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I am a a loss

Ram-bro

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c130?

Ernie P.

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Nope. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Nope. If I have you guys scratching your heads this long, I must have hit on a real unknown warbird. FWIW, Evil_Merlin's post reminded me of the bird I'm describing. Thanks; Ernie P.

US185Damiani

Cessna L-19!

Ernie P.

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What warbird am I describing?

First hint: It was flown by both opposing sides, in wartime, as well as serving in several neutral air forces.

Second hint: It was initially considered to be pretty much a failure; as its early models were clearly inferior to other designs produced by its host country. After use in combat, it was withdrawn as being unsatisfactory in performance. Only when redesigned, and assigned to a new role, did it prove successful.

Third hint: Both civilian and military versions were produced; and both versions were sold to, and produced by, other nations.

Fourth hint: Once the plane was redesigned, it was considered to be almost invulnerable.

Fifth hint: It served through two wars.

Sixth hint: It was in service for more than 20 years.

Seventh hint: Original version: Four crewman. Redesigned version: Two crewman.

Eighth hint: This plane was almost invulnerable in its redesigned form; because no enemy plane could reach it.

Ninth hint: Twin engine; twin tailed; very tapered (actually, pointed) wings.


Thanks; Ernie P.

Read more: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_94...#ixzz0lVQzCb8i

Ernie P.

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Nothing "invulnerable" about that bird. Nope. Thanks; Ernie P.

800mZero

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e-3?