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Old 05-05-2017, 02:41 AM
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Very close. Prototype didn't crash. Guess again.
Old 05-05-2017, 03:17 AM
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You're not thinking the B-38 Flying Fortress, are you? It was a B-17E reworked for 1710-89 Allisons instead of the Wright 1820 radials. The first flight of the only one so modified was May 19, 1943. The plane crashed due to the number 3 engine catching fire, forcing the crew to abandon the plane less than a month later on June 16, 1943. While the tests showed the plane was slightly faster, the demand for Allisons to power the P-38, P-39, P-40, P-51, P-51A and A-36 Apache's forced the end of the experiment
Old 05-05-2017, 04:14 AM
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That's it. You. Are up.
Old 05-05-2017, 10:06 AM
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That's the one, H-J....
Somehow I knew it wasn't the XB-39 but thought it was one of the U.S. bombers...(forgot about that mod. B-17)
Old 05-05-2017, 05:08 PM
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Here's a picture of the B-38:
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It's easy to see why it's faster, just look at those streamlined engine nacelles. I'm surprised the plane wasn't nose heavy with all that engine weight sticking out from the firewalls
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:12 PM
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I'll have a "quick quiz" tomorrow so stay tuned
Old 05-06-2017, 02:04 PM
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Okay guys, here's the "quickie" I promised.
During their war, the major powers each had a plane designed for a specific type of use. All were effective initially but only one lasted through the whole conflict. Name the plane:
1) It carried the biggest payload of the type at the beginning of conflict
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Old 05-06-2017, 04:34 PM
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I know, it's only been 2.5 hours but, just for fun, I figured I'd throw out another clue:
During their war, the major powers each had a plane designed for a specific type of use. All were effective initially but only one lasted through the whole conflict. Name the plane:
1) It carried the biggest payload of the type at the beginning of conflict
2) This plane was the most "aerodynamically clean" of the type due to one design feature
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:15 PM
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And now, it's time for the third clue today:
During their war, the major powers each had a plane designed for a specific type of use. All were effective initially but only one lasted through the whole conflict. Name the plane:
1) It carried the biggest payload of the type at the beginning of conflict
2) This plane was the most "aerodynamically clean" of the type due to one design feature
3) Like all of the other planes in it's "class", the plane had a crew of two
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Old 05-07-2017, 05:52 AM
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Just to get the ball rolling, I'll offer the Dauntless, with retracts as the feature making it aerodynamically clean and the class being dive bombers. It doesn't quite fit perfectly because the Germans used some aging Stukas to defend Berlin at the end, the Blackburn Skua had retracts, and the A-36 dive bomber version of the P-51 had a crew of one. But these are very minor deviations, and besides I can't think of anything else.
Old 05-07-2017, 07:53 AM
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But, unlike the Dauntless, the Stuka was pulled from combat for a considerable period of time, after the Battle of Britain, due to huge losses. They returned to combat with heavy cannons installed under the wings as tank busters, not as dive bombers. The Skua was pulled from combat in 1941 as well for the same reason, heavy losses. The Japanese D3A "Val" dive bomber serve through the war as a dive bomber and Kamikaze plane but, unlike the Dauntless, could carry less than half the ordinance load. Comparing all of the above, plus the Apache:
SBD:
2250 lbs of ordinance, retracting gear, 1100 mile range, 255mph top speed, used through the war
Ju-87:
3950 lbs of ordinance, fixed gear, 950 mile range, 255mph top speed, pulled as a dive bomber after Battle of Britain, reappeared as tank buster on eastern front
D3A:
550 lbs of ordinance, fixed gear, 840 mile range, 267mph top speed, phased out after Battle of Midway, reappeared as Kamikaze over Leyte and Okinawa
Skua:
500 lbs of ordinance, retracting gear, 810 mile range, 223mph top speed, pulled from service in 1941 due to high losses
A-36:
2-500lb bombs, retracting gear, 550 mile range, 365mph top speed, pulled from service after one year in 1944 due to P-47s and P-51s being better at ground attack

Okay, clue 1 was incorrect, it carried the second heaviest load. Still, of all the dive bombers, it was the only one to serve through the entire war AS A DIVE BOMBER.
Regardless, you,re up Mr Gunn
Old 05-07-2017, 08:23 AM
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SWAG .....SB2C Curtis " HellDiver"
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Old 05-07-2017, 08:52 AM
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I'll try to come up with something by tomorrow if not sooner.
Old 05-07-2017, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
And now, it's time for the third clue today:
During their war, the major powers each had a plane designed for a specific type of use. All were effective initially but only one lasted through the whole conflict. Name the plane:
1) It carried the biggest payload of the type at the beginning of conflict
2) This plane was the most "aerodynamically clean" of the type due to one design feature
3) Like all of the other planes in it's "class", the plane had a crew of two
Good Luck
Here's a WAG ~ de Havilland Mosquito?
Old 05-07-2017, 04:53 PM
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Here we go again.

Looking for the name of a very well known aircraft.

1. Originally designed to have four engines, but the production versions didn't.

2. Last flew in combat in the early 1960s.
Old 05-07-2017, 06:27 PM
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Joe and David, I was looking for a single engine dive bomber that flew through the entire war.
Joe, the Helldiver didn't get it's first taste of combat until Nov 11,1943 and was, in it's early versions, a total flop. It wasn't until the -4 came out that the plane became a true force to recon with.
David, while the Mosquito did fly through MOST of the war, it didn't go into production until late 1941. It was configured as a light bomber, fighter, nightfigher, ship buster and photo-recon aircraft. It was never designed or used as a dive bomber
Old 05-07-2017, 06:31 PM
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How about the B-25 Mitchell. It was flown in combat during the Bay of Pigs fiasco
Old 05-08-2017, 04:22 AM
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Not the Mitchell, though the timing of the last combat works. Here's this morning's clue:


Looking for the name of a very well known aircraft.

1. Originally designed to have four engines, but the production versions didn't.

2. Last flew in combat in the early 1960s.

3. Said to be very easy to fly.
Old 05-08-2017, 04:39 PM
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B-47
Old 05-08-2017, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
B-47
Good guess; the B-47 was originally intended to have four engines but ended up with six. I don't think it was ever used in combat, though, at least not as a bomber, but maybe photo-recon. But, as the new clue will show, it's not the plane I'm looking for. I'll have to put that in a new post because RCU is doing odd things with this one.

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Looking for the name of a very well known aircraft.

1. Originally designed to have four engines, but the production versions didn't.

2. Last flew in combat in the early 1960s.

3. Said to be very easy to fly.

4. The production version had one engine.
Old 05-09-2017, 04:29 AM
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Today's clue:

Looking for the name of a very well known aircraft.

1. Originally designed to have four engines, but the production versions didn't.

2. Last flew in combat in the early 1960s.

3. Said to be very easy to fly.

4. The production version had one engine.

5. Used by only two countries.
Old 05-09-2017, 06:35 AM
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Four engines to one that's a bit different!......hmm. I smell a rat, Is this fixed wing?
UH-1 Huey
Old 05-09-2017, 07:03 AM
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Not a helicopter. Four to one is indeed different, but another one of the clues may be sneakier yet, though accurate. ("We all have flaws; mine is being wicked.")
Old 05-09-2017, 03:09 PM
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AD-1 Spad was the last single engine prop plane used in combat, in Viet Nam


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