Sekhet

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And you are dead on target! The "Bark" it is. Ernie you now have the floor!

Hydro Junkie

Okay, let me refer to each in order:
I believe the A-6 was 4 years before the 111 and had the side by side seating. I was talking about fighters. Many bombers had the side by side arrangement over the years. In fact, the only ones that didn't, in the US, was the B-47 and B-58
2000' takeoff run? maybe if empty of fuel and weapons. This is from one of my sources-Early F-111s did show promise, capable of flying over the speed of sound at Mach 1.2 at low-altitude, or more than double that (Mach 2.5) at high altitude—all the while requiring only a 2,000 foot runway to land. It was the first tactical aircraft to cross from the United States to Europe without mid-air refueling. It just made sense that it would have to be able to take off from one of similar length when you consider that the B was supposed to launch and land on aircraft carriers meaning STOL capabilities would be needed for that and since the planes were very close to clones, STOL could be assumed to be part of the requirements of the A as well
The pod on the tail is refered to as the Football and houses the receivers. A-J band some RX are sprinkled around the airframe as well. I'm well aware of what's what on a Prowler. I was required to sign a nondisclosure form when I left NAVAIR which is in effect as long as certain systems are still in use by the military. With my present job, I work with people working on the P-8 Poseidon and KC-46A Pegasus so I am still required to abide by the nondisclosure form I signed. Therefore, my comment about things being classified is still very relevant considering:
1) several things from the Prowler could still be in use
2) my job could be lost if I disclose information that is still classified
3) I WANT TO KEEP MY CLEARANCE AND STAY OUT OF JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The EA-6A and B called the other guy the ECMO electric countermeasures officer and the 111 WSO weapon system officer.
BN is only for the Intruder. I used the BN designation since it was a term I knew was fairly accurate. Since the F-111 was used as a bomber and not a fighter, the only weapons being used were bombs and air to ground missiles, just like the A-6 Intruder

Ernie P.

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Thank you, Sir, for highlighting this epic warbird. I will post something today. Thanks; Ernie P.

FlyerInOKC

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Some people are sooo picky!

Sekhet

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I just find the IL-2 a very interesting subject.
It was one of the first ground attack aircraft to use bomblets to penetrate the relatively thin upper armor of all heavy German tanks.
The Sturmovik is one warbird whos bite is nastier than it's "Bark"

Ernie P.

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Okay; here we go again. Enjoy. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

Hydro Junkie

Okay, lets take out the obvious one:
F8F Bearcat

Ernie P.

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A good guess, my friend; but not where we're headed. But you do earn a bonus clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front. 2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

Hydro Junkie

Okay, that takes out the Bearcat since it was actually in squadrons Stateside before the end of WWII. They just hadn't been shipped to the fleet before Nagasaki started to glow in the dark.
How about the DH-103 Hornet

Ernie P.

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Now there's a nice subject airplane. But not the subject airplane we're discussing. Here's another bonus clue to reward your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

elmshoot

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Actually I was trying to remember the IL-2 when I got side tracked with the ME-109 numbers.
Hydro, glad you are still working the P-8. KC-67 I ran into some guys at work who have been in flight test with the plane and comment that the down low flying isn't as comfortable as the P-3, but heck its an airliner!
And I think the P-3 is faster on the deck!
The frequency coverage of the Prowler is open source information, AW&ST had them back in the 70's. Much to everyone's chagrin at Whidbey!
Fighter/Bomber? a common misconception between Navy and Air Force nomenclature.
I was a A-6 Pilot and we referred to ourselves and mission as ATTACK. Bomb droppers, destroying infrastructure, killing the enemy by the Dozens and potentially thousands with a Nuclear weapon was what we did.
We carried sidewinders but not normally so we had Air to Air capability like a Fighter.
The Air Force preferred to refer to all their planes as fighters regardless of the fact that many didn't even have any forward firing ordinance. The F-117 a classic case of this misconception.
In their world (USAF) you are either a Fighter pilot or something else. If its pointy nosed its a fighter in their world.
As Adm "Swoose" Sneed said in congress during hearings explain why the Navy didn't want the 111. After hours of testimony some congressman asked if better engines would make the 111 acceptable as a fighter to the Navy, the exasperated admiral replied, "Senator there isn't enough power in all of Christendom to make that plane a fighter!"
Runway for landing (2000') is whole lot different than Take off runway requirements (2 miles for the 105). Once I got a Prowler airborne in 900' at the field but again normally less that 4000' is the normal expectation. I suspect that is a similar number for the 111.
We had a saying in Whidbey. "Attack Pilots make history, Fighter pilots make Movies"
Others have said. "Wars are not won by killing the enemy one at a time at 30,000 feet but by killing them by the hundreds on the ground"
Hey I even know a few fighter pilots, nice but misguided individuals.
I'm even in the opening scene of the most famous Fighter movie of all time, Top Gun! Taxing 513 (I think) to the catapult. Yep it was a tanker to keep the fighters in the air!

My guess is F-82 twin Mustang

Sparky

Ernie P.

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Hey Sparky; not the F-82, but you again earn a bonus clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

FlyerInOKC

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How about the Sopwith Dragon or the Knoller 70?

Ernie P.

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Sir; neither the Dragon or the Knoller; but here's my last clue of the day, just for you. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

elmshoot

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Siemens-Schuckert D.IV

I thought you might be going earlier with the initially vague clues.
Sparky

Ernie P.

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Again; an excellent guess, but not where we're heading. Maybe this will help. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

FlyerInOKC

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How about the Packard-Le Perι LUSAC-11I?

Ernie P.

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Not the Packard-Le Pere, FlyerInOKC; but here's another clue to aid your search. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

7. So, it was redesigned with a larger wingspan.

Ernie P.

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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

7. So, it was redesigned with a larger wingspan.

8. The revised plane had ailerons on the lower wing only.

Ernie P.

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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

7. So, it was redesigned with a larger wingspan.

8. The revised plane had ailerons on the lower wing only.

9. The revised plane met the required service ceiling and was put into production.

Ernie P.

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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

7. So, it was redesigned with a larger wingspan.

8. The revised plane had ailerons on the lower wing only.

9. The revised plane met the required service ceiling and was put into production.

10. It was a very popular aircraft.

Ernie P.

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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

7. So, it was redesigned with a larger wingspan.

8. The revised plane had ailerons on the lower wing only.

9. The revised plane met the required service ceiling and was put into production.

10. It was a very popular aircraft.

11. This plane served with the armed forces of at least ten (10) different countries.

Ernie P.

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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

7. So, it was redesigned with a larger wingspan.

8. The revised plane had ailerons on the lower wing only.

9. The revised plane met the required service ceiling and was put into production.

10. It was a very popular aircraft.

11. This plane served with the armed forces of at least ten (10) different countries.

12. It was purchased and used by other countries as a “pattern” for their own aircraft.

elmshoot

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Fairey III

Sparky

Ernie P.

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Not the Fairey III, Sparky. But here's another clue to help you along. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



Clues:

1. This plane was a little too late to make it to the front.

2. It flew during the war, and orders were placed; but didn’t make it into production until after the war.

3. It was FAST. As in, the fastest of its type and day.

4. It was a biplane.

5. The prototype had ailerons on both wings.

6. It performed quite well in tests; but could not achieve the required service ceiling.

7. So, it was redesigned with a larger wingspan.

8. The revised plane had ailerons on the lower wing only.

9. The revised plane met the required service ceiling and was put into production.

10. It was a very popular aircraft.

11. This plane served with the armed forces of at least ten (10) different countries.

12. It was purchased and used by other countries as a “pattern” for their own aircraft.

13. It was built by the designing company; and produced under license by several other companies in its home country.