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Old 09-04-2019, 11:42 AM
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Old 09-04-2019, 03:30 PM
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P-40 warhawk?
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Old 09-04-2019, 03:40 PM
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Not the B-25. Here's another bonus clue.

Looking for the name of a warbird.

1. Thousands built.

2. Flown by many countries.

3. Designed and the first prototype completed in less than a year.

4. It was not a modification of an earlier airplane, but its wing and at least part of its tail feathers had been used on earlier designs. Only the fuselage was entirely new.

5. Tricycle landing gear.

6. Mainly because of its wing design, it was somewhat faster and had a longer range than other similar aircraft of its time.
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Old 09-04-2019, 06:40 PM
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Old 09-05-2019, 12:48 AM
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Sounds like a P-39
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:23 AM
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Here's this morning's clue, which fits the P-39 perfectly, but that's not the airplane I'm looking for. Not the MiG-17, either. (The next clue will make it sound like the P-51, but we know it isn't that.)

Looking for the name of a warbird.

1. Thousands built.

2. Flown by many countries.

3. Designed and the first prototype completed in less than a year.

4. It was not a modification of an earlier airplane, but its wing and at least part of its tail feathers had been used on earlier designs. Only the fuselage was entirely new.

5. Tricycle landing gear.

6. Mainly because of its wing design, it was somewhat faster and had a longer range than other similar aircraft of its time.

7. Shortcomings included a lower ceiling and some handling difficulties compared with similar contemporaries.

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Old 09-05-2019, 04:40 AM
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Actually, only the P-51, P-51A and A-36 had a lower service ceiling due the the use of the 1710 Allison engine. The D, H and K had handling issues when the the rear in-fuse tank was full, mandating that tank being used first, even before the drop tanks, to restore the handling to what was normal for the "razorback" Mustangs.
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie View Post
Actually, only the P-51, P-51A and A-36 had a lower service ceiling due the the use of the 1710 Allison engine. The D, H and K had handling issues when the the rear in-fuse tank was full, mandating that tank being used first, even before the drop tanks, to restore the handling to what was normal for the "razorback" Mustangs.
No, this morning's clue fits the P-39. It's the next clue that will fit the P-51.
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Old 09-05-2019, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Top_Gunn View Post
No, this morning's clue fits the P-39. It's the next clue that will fit the P-51.
Let's get the T-33 out of the way, first. I was thinking the P-80, but there weren't "thousands" of those produced. Thanks; Ernie P.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:57 PM
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Not the T-33. Here's the bonus clue, which if it had come before anyone had guessed the P-51 and before the tricycle gear clue would likely have had everyone thinking of the Mustang.

Looking for the name of a warbird.

1. Thousands built.

2. Flown by many countries.

3. Designed and the first prototype completed in less than a year.

4. It was not a modification of an earlier airplane, but its wing and at least part of its tail feathers had been used on earlier designs. Only the fuselage was entirely new.

5. Tricycle landing gear.

6. Mainly because of its wing design, it was somewhat faster and had a longer range than other similar aircraft of its time.

7. Shortcomings included a lower ceiling and some handling difficulties compared with similar contemporaries.

8. The company that built it was approached with a proposal that it become an additional manufacturer of another company's plane. It responded by offering to design a new airplane that would do the same job. The offer was accepted, and our target airplane was designed and built.
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Old 09-06-2019, 04:53 AM
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Today' clue.

Looking for the name of a very-well-known warbird.

1. Thousands built.

2. Flown by many countries.

3. Designed and the first prototype completed in less than a year.

4. It was not a modification of an earlier airplane, but its wing and at least part of its tail feathers had been used on earlier designs. Only the fuselage was entirely new.

5. Tricycle landing gear.

6. Mainly because of its wing design, it was somewhat faster and had a longer range than other similar aircraft of its time.

7. Shortcomings included a lower ceiling and some handling difficulties compared with similar contemporaries.

8. The company that built it was approached with a proposal that it become an additional manufacturer of another company's plane. It responded by offering to design a new airplane that would do the same job. The offer was accepted, and our target airplane was designed and built.

9. Most of the earliest production versions went to countries other than the country in which they were manufactured. Some of these had their armament removed, to serve in a role the need for which had not been fully anticipated before the war began.
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Top_Gunn View Post
Today' clue.

Looking for the name of a very-well-known warbird.

1. Thousands built.

2. Flown by many countries.

3. Designed and the first prototype completed in less than a year.

4. It was not a modification of an earlier airplane, but its wing and at least part of its tail feathers had been used on earlier designs. Only the fuselage was entirely new.

5. Tricycle landing gear.

6. Mainly because of its wing design, it was somewhat faster and had a longer range than other similar aircraft of its time.

7. Shortcomings included a lower ceiling and some handling difficulties compared with similar contemporaries.

8. The company that built it was approached with a proposal that it become an additional manufacturer of another company's plane. It responded by offering to design a new airplane that would do the same job. The offer was accepted, and our target airplane was designed and built.

9. Most of the earliest production versions went to countries other than the country in which they were manufactured. Some of these had their armament removed, to serve in a role the need for which had not been fully anticipated before the war began.
Al, I know it can't be this simple, but I keep thinking about the B-24. Thanks; Ernie P.




Answer: B-24

The Liberator originated from a United States Army Air Corps (USAAC) request in 1938 for Consolidated to produce the B-17 under license. After company executives including President Reuben Fleet visited the Boeing factory in Seattle, Washington, Consolidated decided instead to submit a more modern design of its own.

The new Model 32 combined designer David R. Davis's wing, a high-efficiency airfoil design created by unorthodox means, with the twin tail design from the Consolidated Model 31flying boat, together on a new fuselage. This new fuselage was intentionally designed around twin bomb bays, each one being the same size and capacity of the B-17 bomb bays.

The U.S. Army Air Corps awarded a contract for the prototype XB-24 in March 1939, with the requirement that one example should be ready before the end of the year. Consolidated finished the prototype and had it ready for its first flight two days before the end of 1939. The design was simple in concept but, nevertheless, advanced for its time. Consolidated incorporated innovative features such as a tricycle landing gear and Davis wing.
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:31 AM
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Well, I did say it was going to be easy. It is indeed the B-24. Here are two links, one to Wiki and the other to a site with more information,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-24
Consolidated B-24 Liberator
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:47 AM
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Removed armament had to be the "clown" birds, used to help form up the strike formations. They were painted in a very visible pattern to make them easy to see and form up with.
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Old 09-06-2019, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie View Post
Removed armament had to be the "clown" birds, used to help form up the strike formations. They were painted in a very visible pattern to make them easy to see and form up with.
Right, but that was later in the war. Some of the very earliest ones had their armament removed to turn them into long-distance transports. Among other jobs, one of the things they did was bringing ferry pilots back across the Atlantic after they had delivered their planes to England. Apparently, pre-war planning had underestimated the need for transport aircraft.

One interesting fact about the B-24, which I ran across while searching for the answer to Ernie's fiendishly difficult "Moose" question, involved the twin vertical stabilizers. It turned out that the single vertical stabilizer on the N version, which came along too late to have much to do with the war, was much better, both in terms of flying qualities and not getting in the way of the gunners. That's why the Navy's post-war adaptations of the B-24 had just the one vertical stabilizer. Consolidated seems to have adopted the twin-tail design just because it was there on some of the flying boats they had been making.

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Old 09-06-2019, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Top_Gunn View Post
Well, I did say it was going to be easy. It is indeed the B-24. Here are two links, one to Wiki and the other to a site with more information,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-24
Consolidated B-24 Liberator
Yeah! I got it! I'm up.... Wait.... What did I just do? Okay; here's one I've been thinking about for a while. And to start the ball rolling, here's a trio of clues. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This warbird is not particularly well know.

2. Although it bears a very famous name.

3. And it was flown by a very famous ace.
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I have to be up and out the door pretty early in the am. So, here's a couple of clues for Saturday. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This warbird is not particularly well know.

2. Although it bears a very famous name.

3. And it was flown by a very famous ace.

4. Who scored several victories in this aircraft.

5. A couple of hundred were produced, which was a respectable number at the time.
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Albatros D.II?
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Not the Albatros D.II, JohnnyS; but a good guess. Good enough to earn a bonus clue. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This warbird is not particularly well know.

2. Although it bears a very famous name.

3. And it was flown by a very famous ace.

4. Who scored several victories in this aircraft.

5. A couple of hundred were produced, which was a respectable number at the time.

6. This was essentially the final model of a series of three aircraft.
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Originally Posted by elmshoot View Post
Brester Buffalo
Not the Buffalo, Sparky; but here's a bonus clue to speed your search. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This warbird is not particularly well know.

2. Although it bears a very famous name.

3. And it was flown by a very famous ace.

4. Who scored several victories in this aircraft.

5. A couple of hundred were produced, which was a respectable number at the time.

6. This was essentially the final model of a series of three aircraft.

7. The first two of the series had their model numbers reversed; i.e., model 2 came before model 1.
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Sunday clue. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This warbird is not particularly well know.

2. Although it bears a very famous name.

3. And it was flown by a very famous ace.

4. Who scored several victories in this aircraft.

5. A couple of hundred were produced, which was a respectable number at the time.

6. This was essentially the final model of a series of three aircraft.

7. The first two of the series had their model numbers reversed; i.e., model 2 came before model 1.

8. And they were delivered to front line units about the same time.
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How about the I-16?
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How about the I-16?
Not the I-16, Sir; but you do earn a bonus clue for your efforts. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This warbird is not particularly well know.

2. Although it bears a very famous name.

3. And it was flown by a very famous ace.

4. Who scored several victories in this aircraft.

5. A couple of hundred were produced, which was a respectable number at the time.

6. This was essentially the final model of a series of three aircraft.

7. The first two of the series had their model numbers reversed; i.e., model 2 came before model 1.

8. And they were delivered to front line units about the same time.

9. The lengthened and strengthened fuselage had to be redesigned to accommodate a longer and heavier engine; and the wing of the second of the earlier models was used.
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This warbird is not particularly well know.

2. Although it bears a very famous name.

3. And it was flown by a very famous ace.

4. Who scored several victories in this aircraft.

5. A couple of hundred were produced, which was a respectable number at the time.

6. This was essentially the final model of a series of three aircraft.

7. The first two of the series had their model numbers reversed; i.e., model 2 came before model 1.

8. And they were delivered to front line units about the same time.

9. The lengthened and strengthened fuselage had to be redesigned to accommodate a longer and heavier engine; and the wing of the second of the earlier models was used.

10. While the performance was improved, when compared to the earlier models, the famous ace still considered the plane to be a bit slow.
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