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Old 11-10-2019, 06:21 AM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
And a Bonus clue!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
And a Bonus clue!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
Old 11-10-2019, 05:33 PM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
And a Bonus clue!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
Old 11-11-2019, 05:06 PM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
Old 11-12-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BankYank
Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
Sir; my apologies, but hunting season starts in a couple of days and I'm going to be spending the following ten days or so away from phones and computers for most of each day. While I may get to check in every few days, I won't be able to take the lead for a bit. I'm pretty sure I figured this one out a few days ago; and I'll bet there are several others who are close to solving it. In the interim, welcome to the game and enjoy confounding your fellow enthusiasts. Thanks; Ernie P.
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
Old 11-12-2019, 09:01 PM
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Me-109?
Old 11-13-2019, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Me-109?
Nope sorry.
Old 11-13-2019, 05:00 PM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
Old 11-13-2019, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BankYank
Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
Sir; you have a PM. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 11-14-2019, 04:52 PM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
15: Although a sturdy and highly maneuverable fighter aircraft it was considered underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries.
Old 11-15-2019, 02:13 PM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
15: Although a sturdy and highly maneuverable fighter aircraft it was considered underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries.
16: Production had reached a high-point of 147 aircraft during August 1939, before declining as manufacturing efforts were progressively re-directed towards other aircraft
Old 11-16-2019, 10:58 AM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues !!!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
15: Although a sturdy and highly maneuverable fighter aircraft it was considered underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries.
16: Production had reached a high-point of 147 aircraft during August 1939, before declining as manufacturing efforts were progressively re-directed towards other aircraft
17: Holds the unfortunate distinction of being the least effective french fighter in service during the Battle of France, which was attributed to having relatively low firepower.
Old 11-17-2019, 05:59 AM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues !!!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
15: Although a sturdy and highly maneuverable fighter aircraft it was considered underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries.
16: Production had reached a high-point of 147 aircraft during August 1939, before declining as manufacturing efforts were progressively re-directed towards other aircraft
17: Holds the unfortunate distinction of being the least effective french fighter in service during the Battle of France, which was attributed to having relatively low firepower.
18: Its weaknesses were apparent, such as the lack of armoring, frequent gun-jamming, inadequate firepower, slow responsiveness of the guns, unreliable radio units, very high rate of engine wear, corrosion of rudder components, cabin glazing breaking under air pressure during certain manoeuvres, loss of exterior panels due to screws deteriorating rapidly, and the lack of rear-view mirrors.
Old 11-17-2019, 07:43 PM
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues !!!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
15: Although a sturdy and highly maneuverable fighter aircraft it was considered underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries.
16: Production had reached a high-point of 147 aircraft during August 1939, before declining as manufacturing efforts were progressively re-directed towards other aircraft
17: Holds the unfortunate distinction of being the least effective french fighter in service during the Battle of France, which was attributed to having relatively low firepower.
18: Its weaknesses were apparent, such as the lack of armoring, frequent gun-jamming, inadequate firepower, slow responsiveness of the guns, unreliable radio units, very high rate of engine wear, corrosion of rudder components, cabin glazing breaking under air pressure during certain manoeuvres, loss of exterior panels due to screws deteriorating rapidly, and the lack of rear-view mirrors.
19: Among the various aviation companies who took interest in the "C1 design" specification to which the potential for a large production order was attached, was French aircraft manufacturer Morena-Saulnier
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Arsenal VG-33?
Old 11-18-2019, 04:48 PM
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Arsenal VG-33?
Sorry nope
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues !!!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
15: Although a sturdy and highly maneuverable fighter aircraft it was considered underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries.
16: Production had reached a high-point of 147 aircraft during August 1939, before declining as manufacturing efforts were progressively re-directed towards other aircraft
17: Holds the unfortunate distinction of being the least effective french fighter in service during the Battle of France, which was attributed to having relatively low firepower.
18: Its weaknesses were apparent, such as the lack of armoring, frequent gun-jamming, inadequate firepower, slow responsiveness of the guns, unreliable radio units, very high rate of engine wear, corrosion of rudder components, cabin glazing breaking under air pressure during certain manoeuvres, loss of exterior panels due to screws deteriorating rapidly, and the lack of rear-view mirrors.
19: Among the various aviation companies who took interest in the "C1 design" specification to which the potential for a large production order was attached, was French aircraft manufacturer Morena-Saulnier
20: Germany took possession of a large number of this aircraft. The Luftwaffe operated a number of the type for training purposes.
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Ok Here goes! Looking for name and designation Its a fighter plane
Well guess already! Im running out of clues !!!
1: Its development began in 1934
2: Pilot and second prototype were lost.
3: Its final use was as an advanced trainer aircraft in a different country then its origin.
4: it was the first low-wing monoplane design of the company, I work for the company that bought the original manufacture of a different name
5: The guns had a tendency to freeze. Heaters were subsequently added to the guns for high-altitude use
6: It was the first plane designed by the manufacture with an enclosed cockpit and first design with retracting landing gear.
7: Outfitted with a new engine, the second prototype was able to attain a speed of 275 mph
8: It fought in the Phoney war
9: A number of them stationed in Indochina downed several Thai fighters
10: the aircraft was very maneuverable and could withstand high amounts of battle damage
11: It was powered with a Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs at one point. Also produced under license in the Soviet Union as the Klimov M-100
12:The manufacture of this plane is now owned by DaHer
13: It had 1 cannon and 2 wing mounted machine guns.
14: The two main changes of this plane were the inclusion of a new wing structure which saved weight, and the fitting of a retractable radiator located underneath the fuselage.
15: Although a sturdy and highly maneuverable fighter aircraft it was considered underpowered and weakly armed when compared to its contemporaries.
16: Production had reached a high-point of 147 aircraft during August 1939, before declining as manufacturing efforts were progressively re-directed towards other aircraft
17: Holds the unfortunate distinction of being the least effective french fighter in service during the Battle of France, which was attributed to having relatively low firepower.
18: Its weaknesses were apparent, such as the lack of armoring, frequent gun-jamming, inadequate firepower, slow responsiveness of the guns, unreliable radio units, very high rate of engine wear, corrosion of rudder components, cabin glazing breaking under air pressure during certain manoeuvres, loss of exterior panels due to screws deteriorating rapidly, and the lack of rear-view mirrors.
19: Among the various aviation companies who took interest in the "C1 design" specification to which the potential for a large production order was attached, was French aircraft manufacturer Morena-Saulnier
20: Germany took possession of a large number of this aircraft. The Luftwaffe operated a number of the type for training purposes.
21: Look at clues 4, 6, 11, 19
Old 11-20-2019, 09:51 AM
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I just popped in here for the first time in months...hello all...(have had some health issues)
BankYank...it sounds like you might be talking of the Morane Saulnier MS.406?
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Originally Posted by proptop
I just popped in here for the first time in months...hello all...(have had some health issues)
BankYank...it sounds like you might be talking of the Morane Saulnier MS.406?
You are correct!
I now pass the torch of clue giving to you!
Old 11-20-2019, 07:47 PM
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BY..she turned me into a Newt too..but I got better...

O.K...it's been a while...
Some of you might remember that I like to choose rather obscure aircraft...and that being said...fore warned is fore armed
Looking for an aircraft...
1) Single engine
2) Between the wars time frame
3) A "Private Venture" design
Old 11-20-2019, 08:17 PM
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:18 PM
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oh wait. single engine so wrong
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Curtiss Model 75 which became the Curtiss P-36.


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