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Old 08-22-2014, 01:19 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.
Old 08-22-2014, 12:00 PM
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Afternoon clue. Believe it or else, this question does really involve a significant event in aviation history. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.
Old 08-22-2014, 03:15 PM
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Evening clue. Thanks, Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.
Old 08-23-2014, 03:40 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.
Old 08-23-2014, 12:26 PM
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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.
Old 08-24-2014, 12:14 AM
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Morning clue. By now, you should be getting an idea of the type of unit and what they were able to accomplish. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.
Old 08-24-2014, 08:19 AM
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Wow!!!!!! This one really has the peanut gallery stumped!!!!!

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Old 08-24-2014, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RCKen
Wow!!!!!! This one really has the peanut gallery stumped!!!!!

Ken
Ken, I'm guessing it will be solved before I leave town tomorrow afternoon. But it is fun in the meantime. (-: The thing is, when the answer becomes known, a lot of people will say either "I didn't know that" or "I'd forgotten about that". It was a "one of a kind" event; even though he may have done it twice. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.
Old 08-24-2014, 10:59 AM
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Okay, guys; I've decided to eliminate the next six scheduled questions, and get right to the really good stuff. You knowledge aces will nail this in less than three more clues, I'm guessing. Here goes; Ernie P.



This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.
Old 08-24-2014, 11:20 AM
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Oops... Forgot the bonus clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.

(27) A combination of bad weather, and information from friendly spies, caused him to break even his own normally strict rules; leading to his greatest success.
Old 08-24-2014, 03:03 PM
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More clues; more clues. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.

(27) A combination of bad weather, and information from friendly spies, caused him to break even his own normally strict rules; leading to his greatest success.

(28) His equipment was using the lowest frequency possible. He was hoping to pick up backscatter from the interior of the enemy units.
Old 08-24-2014, 08:44 PM
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A few more clues. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.

(27) A combination of bad weather, and information from friendly spies, caused him to break even his own normally strict rules; leading to his greatest success.

(28) His equipment was using the lowest frequency possible. He was hoping to pick up backscatter from the interior of the enemy units.

(29) A documentary movie was made about his life.

(30) He also appeared in another documentary movie about one of his victims.

(31) His exploits were kept quiet for more than ten years, before details began to leak out.
Old 08-25-2014, 01:01 AM
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All;

If no one solves this before I depart late this morning, there will simply be a two day pause in the action, between today and Wednesday. I'm sorry for the delay, but I'll be out of town until then; and I don't want to simply give up on this question. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.

(27) A combination of bad weather, and information from friendly spies, caused him to break even his own normally strict rules; leading to his greatest success.

(28) His equipment was using the lowest frequency possible. He was hoping to pick up backscatter from the interior of the enemy units.

(29) A documentary movie was made about his life.

(30) He also appeared in another documentary movie about one of his victims.

(31) His exploits were kept quiet for more than ten years, before details began to leak out.

(32) Much of his tactical doctrine was based upon experiences in the conflict in Lebanon in 1982.
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Hmmm..... Nothing, so I'll see you guys in a couple of days. That should give you all plenty of time to sort out the past clues, and absorb this very important new one. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.

(27) A combination of bad weather, and information from friendly spies, caused him to break even his own normally strict rules; leading to his greatest success.

(28) His equipment was using the lowest frequency possible. He was hoping to pick up backscatter from the interior of the enemy units.

(29) A documentary movie was made about his life.

(30) He also appeared in another documentary movie about one of his victims.

(31) His exploits were kept quiet for more than ten years, before details began to leak out.

(32) Much of his tactical doctrine was based upon experiences in the conflict in Lebanon in 1982.

(33) His breaking of his own rules (in (27) above) was based upon knowledge that the inherent danger to his own unit was lessened on a particular night.
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This one's got me stumped!

I have tried several lines without getting anywhere.

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Mention of "conflict in Lebanon in 1982" narrows down the time scale a bit - and might lead or mislead into a geographical area. Radio equipment and dummy equipment had a role, significant enough to mention...

I'm lost.
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Well, here we go again. Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.

(27) A combination of bad weather, and information from friendly spies, caused him to break even his own normally strict rules; leading to his greatest success.

(28) His equipment was using the lowest frequency possible. He was hoping to pick up backscatter from the interior of the enemy units.

(29) A documentary movie was made about his life.

(30) He also appeared in another documentary movie about one of his victims.

(31) His exploits were kept quiet for more than ten years, before details began to leak out.

(32) Much of his tactical doctrine was based upon experiences in the conflict in Lebanon in 1982.

(33) His breaking of his own rules (in (27) above) was based upon knowledge that the inherent danger to his own unit was lessened on a particular night.

(34) His first victory was historic. The second was denied; although the pilot seemed to agree. The third is still problematic, although many seem to believe it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolt%C3%A1n_Dani

Zoltán Dani (Serbian Cyrillic: Золтан Дани) (23 July 1956 in Kovin) is a former colonel of the Yugoslav Army and former commander of the 3rd battery of the 250th Missile Brigade, which shot down an F-117 Nighthawk near the village of Buđanovci on 27 March 1999, during the Kosovo War. The hit was achieved with a SA-3 Goa SAM system. He was initially unknown to the public and aliased with the name Gvozden Đukić. However, upon retiring from the military, he revealed his identity.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolt%C3%A1n_Dani

Zoltán Dani (Serbian Cyrillic: Золтан Дани) (23 July 1956 in Kovin) is a former colonel of the Yugoslav Army and former commander of the 3rd battery of the 250th Missile Brigade, which shot down an F-117 Nighthawk near the village of Buđanovci on 27 March 1999, during the Kosovo War. The hit was achieved with a SA-3 Goa SAM system. He was initially unknown to the public and aliased with the name Gvozden Đukić. However, upon retiring from the military, he revealed his identity.

JohnnyS, you nailed it! And, you're up! See guys? Now that wasn't so hard, was it? Thanks; Ernie P.


This man was not a pilot or part of an aircrew; but he is most assuredly part of aviation history.

Question: What warbird history maker do I describe?

Clues:

(1) He, and the group he led, accomplished something never done before.

(2) And, not done since.

(3) Something many thought couldn’t be done.

(4) And he may well have done it twice.

(5) He was a Colonel.

(6) He commanded a military unit.

(7) He taught his unit to accomplish its mission, and yet to survive under circumstances which were not normally conducive to survival.

(8) His unit was far more mobile than most similar units.

(9) In addition to teaching his unit to move and survive, he adopted new tactics which increased its effectiveness.

(10) After achieving his historic “first”, he remained an unknown; until some years later.

(11) Only after he retired, did his name become known.

(12) He had initially used an alias to escape publicity; or perhaps public knowledge might be a better term.

(13) Interestingly, after his retirement from military service, he worked as a baker in his home town.

(14) Units like his were not initially intended to be mobile; although he was not the first to use them in this manner.

(15) He trained his unit to be ready to move in little more than half the time normally required.

(16) He also trained them to better stay hidden, while preparing to move.

(17) Units similar to his, but which were less mobile and which stayed active in the same area for a longer time prior to movement, simply didn’t survive.

(18) Before the outbreak of hostilities, he had already trained his unit in the new tactics. When hostilities erupted, his unit was ready.

(19) The stress of operations made it necessary to replace some personnel; who simply could not operate under the conditions imposed upon them by enemy action. He replaced personnel who were unable to cope, both during pre-conflict training and during combat operations.

(20) He made liberal use of simulated engagements in training his crews.

(21) He made liberal use of backups; usually delivering twice the firepower normally used.

(22) Decoys were also used liberally, to protect his unit.

(23) Some of these decoys were just mockup dummies. Some were much more elaborate in nature.

(24) He made use of older equipment, in the hope enemy units would not be set up to deal with it.

(25) He also devised new and innovative tactics, to better utilize the older equipment.

(26) He used equipment salvaged from confiscated aircraft to erect active decoys.

(27) A combination of bad weather, and information from friendly spies, caused him to break even his own normally strict rules; leading to his greatest success.

(28) His equipment was using the lowest frequency possible. He was hoping to pick up backscatter from the interior of the enemy units.

(29) A documentary movie was made about his life.

(30) He also appeared in another documentary movie about one of his victims.

(31) His exploits were kept quiet for more than ten years, before details began to leak out.

(32) Much of his tactical doctrine was based upon experiences in the conflict in Lebanon in 1982.

(33) His breaking of his own rules (in (27) above) was based upon knowledge that the inherent danger to his own unit was lessened on a particular night.

(34) His first victory was historic. The second was denied; although the pilot seemed to agree. The third is still problematic, although many seem to believe it.

(35) The equipment he utilized was first used in the early 1960’s.

(36) His victories are often used as an example of how superior technology can be defeated by improvization and imagination.

(37) His victories are also used as proof that any technology, no matter how superior, has weaknesses which can be discovered and exploited.

Answer: Colonel Zoltan Dani



Zoltán Dani (Serbian Cyrillic: Золтан Дани) (23 July 1956 in Kovin) is a former colonel of the Yugoslav Army and former commander of the 3rd battery of the 250th Missile Brigade, which shot down an F-117 Nighthawk near the village of Buđanovci on 27 March 1999, during the Kosovo War. The hit was achieved with a SA-3 Goa SAM system. He was initially unknown to the public and aliased with the name Gvozden Đukić. However, upon retiring from the military, he revealed his identity.

Dani claimed that his battery also shot down an F-16 which according to NATO was lost due to "mechanical failure"; according to the crashed F-16's pilot, his aircraft was a victim of a SAM weapon.

Since retiring from military service, Dani has been working as a baker in his native village Skorenovac. He is an ethnic Hungarian (part of the Székelys of Bukovina).

Based on experiences of the 1982 Lebanon War, constant relocation of all assets was key to survival of Dani's unit, the 3rd missile detachment of the 250th Serbian Air Defence Battalion. Although the SA-3 / "S-125M Neva" system is not a mobile SAM complex per design, its solid fueled missiles are transportable in near combat ready condition (in fact the Polish Armed Forces and Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces each created mobile versions of the SA-3 on T-72 tank and T-55 tank chassis respectively in the 1990s).

Therefore, Lt. Col. Dani trained his SA-3 unit to achieve a 90 minute equipment break-down time with minimal lighting provided for better camouflage, one hour better than the standard time. Further set-up and break-down time reductions were achieved by reducing the SA-3 unit's number of active 5P73 launchers and V-601P missiles to just 2x2 from the original 4x4 configuration.

This reduction in missile capability was justified, because of the expected strictly limited time slots and occasions where a Serbian SAM battery could open fire in face of a tremendous NATO Wild Weasel capability, with any hope of self-preservation. The lean use of SAM missiles also became a necessity later on, as the initial March 24, 1999, 20:20 NATO air strike destroyed a hundred reloads of ready to use V-601P missiles stored in two concrete vaults at the Jakovo SAM base.

Lt. Col. Dani made it a strict field rule that the SA-3's UNV type fire control radar could only be turned on for a maximum of 2 x 20 seconds in combat, after which the battery's equipment must be immediately broken down and trucked to a prepared alternative launch site, whether or not any missile has been fired. This rule proved essential, because other Serbian AAA units, emitting high-frequency radiation for any longer periods or forgetting to relocate, were hit by AGM-88 HARM missile counter-strikes from NATO aircraft, suffering radar equipment and personnel losses.

In order to train personnel to operate efficiently under such pressures, Zoltán Dani obtained access to an "Accord" electronic signal simulator, which allowed the SA-3 radar and guidance crew practice combat scenarios based on imitated engagements. Several soldiers were removed from position both during the pre-war practice drills and wartime guard shifts, when they proved unable to cope with the psychological stress of being targeted by enemy aircraft.

It was decided two missiles would be launched against any target near simultaneously, in order to maximize hit probability. Unusually, launches were to be conducted against NATO aircraft that had already accomplished their ground strike missions and were about to leave Serbian airspace. Their northern heading was pointing away from the direction of powerful NATO airborne jammer sources, thereby allowing the SA-3's un-modernized UNV fire control radar set to operate with less interference.

Dani's mobility rule was strictly observed in his unit, with the trucks relocating frequently during the 78 days of Kosovo War, as they constantly shuttled missiles, radars and equipment among the dozen alternative launch sites, most of them embankments left over from already phased out SA-2 (S-75) units.

Radar sets obtained from confiscated Iraqi MiG-21 planes were planted around the SAM sites to serve as active emitter decoys, which diverted some anti-radiation missiles from the actual targets (dozens of Iraqi MiG-21/23 warplanes, sent to Yugoslavia for industrial overhaul, were seized in 1991, after Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait.) Retired SAM radar sets were used as optical decoys, left at well-known military bases to lure NATO planes to waste munition on worthless targets. Owing to these measures, Dani's unit evaded 23 incoming HARM missiles, all of which impacted off-site with insignificant or zero damages.

General surveillance of NATO aircraft was provided by vintage P-18 radar sets, which used vacuum tubes and a large rotating Yagi antenna grid for meter-band illumination. Under optimal conditions the Soviet-made P-18 was able to plot large-Radar cross-section aircraft from 125 to 200 km, depending on the target's size, but with a high range inaccuracy of several hundred meters.

Zoltán Dani tuned his P-18 to the lowest possible frequency, hoping that meter band waves would reflect from the inside of targets, rendering stealth aircraft skin technology ineffective. In practice his modified P-18 provided stable plot of F-117 movements from just 25 km, which was useful when combined with the comparatively short missile range of the SA-3 air defence complex. Furthermore, the P-18 meter band radar could be kept almost constantly emitting, since most NATO radar warning receiver devices did not cover such a very low frequency band.

Zoltán Dani initially claimed that four major capacitors had been replaced in the P-18, to further increase the wavelength. However, he later admitted that no such modifications had been made, and that his story was a "marketing trick."


On the particular night of the F-117 shootdown, 27 March 1999, Zoltán Dani broke his own ruleset. He had information about unfavourable Adriatic weather conditions and Serbian spies residing near Italian NATO airbases informed the Serbian Air Defence HQ about lack of EA-6 Prowler electronic jammer and "Wild Weasel" anti-SAM aircraft launches during the late evening. Therefore any F-117s in the air on that fateful night were literally alone in the dark, but with high crew morale due to their invulnerability during previous day's sorties.

In the evening, Dani's P-18 long-distance radar set malfunctioned at 19:05, almost the same time when four F-117s prepared for take-off from Aviano Air Base to attack targets in Belgrade. The repaired P-18 radar returned to air by 19:50 and started to emit at the specially modified lower frequency. Lt. Col. Dale Zelko's plane (tail number 82-0806) and three other F-117 flying northbound were acquired at 20:40 local time and so the SA-3 battery's fire control radar went on air. The UNV radar emitted at high frequency for 2 x 20 seconds, but it was unable to obtain a lock on the targets.

Lt. Col. Dani then ordered a third illumination round, against his own rulebook, but knowing that NATO lacked immediate counterstrike capability on the particular occasion. Lock was obtained and at a distance of 13 km and an altitude of 8 km. Two SA-3 missiles were launched in short succession, with one obtaining a proximity fuse hit, as notified by an automatic radio pinger burst. The F-117 was structurally disabled by the sudden minus 6G negative load and stall-crashed in inverted position in an agricultural field, near the village of Buđanovci. The pilot ejected successfully and was rescued later on by NATO Combat search and rescue helicopters. The F-117's large kite-shaped titanium engine outlet heatshield is still kept by Dani in his garage.
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Zoltan Dani also claims that his unit downed the commander's F-16 plane from the Aviano-based 555th Fighter Squadron "Triple Nickel". On May 1/2, 1999 the F-16 (s/n 88-0550) had already completed its combat sortie and was flying outbound from Serbian airspace, when its on-board radar warning receiver indicated illumination from Dani's SA-3 fire control radar. The pilot, Lt. Col. David Goldfein, decided to turn back and attack, but this proved a mistake, as two missiles were already underway and one hit his plane. Dani was not actually in the combat shift (for a unit to provide 24h/day readiness the crew is divided in 3 shifts) when the shootdown occurred. The shift was commanded by Maj. Boško Dotlić.

The radio signal logs of unit 250/3 contain two further proximity fuse activation pings beyond the F-117 and F-16 shootdown events, indicating that either extra NATO aircraft were hit or ALE-50 towed jammer devices were destroyed by the missiles, as opposed to the SAM missiles simply missing due to radar jamming or chaff dispersal.

Although Ret. Col. Zoltán Dani does not comment on the allegation (although Dani's wartime second in command Lt Col Đorđe Aničić does), as of mid-2009 some Hungarian aviation journalists claim one of these two events was a real hit on a B-2 Spirit stealth bomber, which was either totalled or extensively re-built after an overseas crash landing (this plane was previously believed to be another combat-damaged F-117).

Ten years after the events, the Hungarian military aviation magazine Aranysas, volume 11/2009, carried an extensive article on Zoltán Dani's story, on the occasion of his visit at the Hungarian Air Defence Collection, an NGO-operated SAM museum at Zsámbék. Certain aspects of the F-117 shootdown story and general Serbian AAA activity during the Kosovo War were publicly disclosed for the first time in the article.

A documentary movie "The 21st Second" was made about Zoltán Dani. Dani also participated in the documentary movie "The Second Meeting", where he met Dale Zelko, the F-117 pilot he had shot down.

The S-125 was first deployed between 1961 and 1964 around Moscow, augmenting the S-25 and S-75 sites already ringing the city, as well as in other parts of the USSR. In 1964, an upgraded version of the system, the S-125M "Neva-M" and later S-125M1 "Neva-M1" was developed. The original version was designated SA-3A by the US DoD and the new Neva-M named SA-3B and (naval) SA-N-1B. The Neva-M introduced a redesigned booster and an improved guidance system. The SA-3 was not used against U.S. forces in Vietnam, because the Soviets feared that China (after the souring of Sino-Soviet relations in 1960), through which most, if not all of the equipment meant for North Vietnam had to travel, would try to copy the missile.

A Yugoslav Army 250th Air Defense Missile Brigade 3rd battery equipped with S-125 system managed to shoot down an F-117 Nighthawk stealth bomber on March 27, 1999 during the Kosovo War (the only recorded downing of a stealth aircraft) near village Budjanovci, about 130 milles away from Kosovo. It was also used to shoot down a NATO F-16 fighter on May 2 (its pilot; Lt. Col David Goldfein, the commander of 555th Fighter Squadron, managed to eject and was later rescued by a combat search-and-rescue (CSAR) mission.

During the war, different Yugoslav SAM sites and possibly the SA-3 also shot down some NATO UAVs.

"The war (in Kosovo) proved that a competent opponent can improvise ways to overcome superior weaponry because every technology has weaknesses that can be identified and exploited," the jury is still out even on real damage to Serbian military infrastructure, the fact remains that SAM sites forced NATO planes to fly higher and be less effective than they would have been with out these defences.
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OK, let's get back to an easy one:

1. First military contract for this manufacturer.
2. Built in USA and Norway.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS


OK, let's get back to an easy one:

1. First military contract for this manufacturer.
2. Built in USA and Norway.

Sounds like the Douglas DT bomber. Thanks; Ernie P.


The Douglas DT bomber was the Douglas Aircraft Company's first military contract, forging a link between the company and the United States Navy. Navy Contract No. 53305 of April 1, 1921, required only 18 pages to set out the specifications that resulted in the purchase of three DT (D for Douglas, T for torpedo) folding-wing aircraft.

The DT used a welded steel fuselage with aluminum covering the forward and center sections and fabric covering the rear section. Douglas built 46 DT-1 and DT-2 torpedo bombers for the U.S. Navy, Norwegian Navy, and Peruvian Navy. 20 DT-2 aircraft were built under license by Lowe-Willard-Fowler Engineering Company, six by the Naval Aircraft Factory, and 11 by Dayton Wright Company. Another seven were built for Norway under license by Marinens Flyvebåtfabrik. Although still in service when the Germans invaded Norway, the Norwegian DTs did not see action in the Norwegian Campaign. The DT could be fitted either with pontoons or wheeled landing gear and could carry a 1,800 lb (816 kg) torpedo.

The first flight was in November 1921 and production continued until 1929. The DT operated off the U.S. Navy's first aircraft carrier, the USS Langley, from land bases, and from seaplane tenders. Several were flown by the Marine Corps.

Variations of the DT-2 aircraft were designated DT-4, DT-5, DT-6, and DTB. Machines licence-built by Dayton-Wright were internally designated SDW by that company. The type became the basis for the Douglas World Cruiser.
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Ernie,

You got it! Wow: I thought it would go a few more steps than that...

You're up.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
Ernie,

You got it! Wow: I thought it would go a few more steps than that...

You're up.
Johnny; all questions are easy if you know the answer. I'll make this an easy question, and save the hard ones for later. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird pilot do I describe?

Clues:

(1) His name is right there at the top of the list; in his category, of course.
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