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Old 09-25-2014, 07:53 AM
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Good to see so many responses!!!

So I'm looking for a 'larger than life' pilot:

1. Remembered more for his non-operational flying he flew in two wars.
2. In his first war he became an ace, in the process wounding one of the high scoring aces of that conflict.
Old 09-26-2014, 12:39 PM
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Sorry for the delay guys

I'm looking for a 'larger than life' pilot:

1. Remembered more for his non-operational flying he flew in two wars.
2. In his first war he became an ace, in the process wounding one of the high scoring aces of that conflict.
3. He flew between the wars as a stunt pilot his exploits leading to him entering the film industry.
4. He was recruited as a spy by a foreign power who though him sympathetic, immediately becoming a double agent feeding false intelligence.
Old 09-27-2014, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SimonCraig1
Sorry for the delay guys

I'm looking for a 'larger than life' pilot:

1. Remembered more for his non-operational flying he flew in two wars.
2. In his first war he became an ace, in the process wounding one of the high scoring aces of that conflict.
3. He flew between the wars as a stunt pilot his exploits leading to him entering the film industry.
4. He was recruited as a spy by a foreign power who though him sympathetic, immediately becoming a double agent feeding false intelligence.

If it's who I think it is, he was absolutely mad. And I don't think this will go for much longer. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 09-28-2014, 03:10 PM
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SimonCraig1;

Have we lost you? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 09-28-2014, 04:31 PM
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hi guys, Ernie's right on both counts! Weekend distractions etc. etc.

I'm looking for a 'larger than life' pilot:

1. Remembered more for his non-operational flying he flew in two wars.
2. In his first war he became an ace, in the process wounding one of the high scoring aces of that conflict.
3. He flew between the wars as a stunt pilot his exploits leading to him entering the film industry.
4. He was recruited as a spy by a foreign power who though him sympathetic, immediately becoming a double agent feeding false intelligence.
5. He acquired a nickname based on his flying idiosyncrasies.
6. He flew a variety of planes, from obsolete biplanes to aircraft considered state of the art at their introduction to combat, not all were....
Old 09-29-2014, 04:27 AM
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Christopher Draper, also known as the Mad Major because of his fondness for flying under bridges? Seems to fit all the clues.
Old 09-29-2014, 08:29 AM
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Spot on Top_Gunn and you are up. On at least three occasions he flew under bridges, the second to highlight the plight of WW1 veterans in the mid war years, the third in May 1953 where he flew under 15 of the 18 bridges over the Thames in London allegedly for the same reasons but more likely to promote his autobiography. Didn't even loose his license....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Draper for more info,....
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OK, once again looking for a pilot. I think this one will be either very easy or very difficult. Hard to know in advance.

1. Fighter pilot with one kill. But well known, in some circles at least.

2. Legally changed his surname after leaving the military. The name he changed it to is the one by which he is well known.
Old 09-29-2014, 03:28 PM
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James Salter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Salter
Old 09-29-2014, 04:49 PM
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James Salter (James Horowitz when he flew in Korea) it is! Best known in aviation circles, I think, for his novel "The Hunters," which was made into a movie with wonderful flying scenes but hardly any resemblance to the book. Salter once described the movie as "execrable." Not a word I use, but I'm pretty sure it means he didn't like it.

I figured this would either go fast or hang on until I was out of clues. You're up, JohnnyS!
Old 09-30-2014, 04:40 AM
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OK, I'll try to provide a good one.

1. I'm looking for a specific prototype "subject" aircraft built, which was a modification of another "parent" prototype aircraft which only had 2 built.
2. The "parent" aircraft was designed as a replacement for a very well-known and respected predecessor.
3. The "subject" aircraft had three engines.
4. The "subject" aircraft was the first propeller-equipped aircraft to make a particular notable achievement.
Old 09-30-2014, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS


OK, I'll try to provide a good one.

1. I'm looking for a specific prototype "subject" aircraft built, which was a modification of another "parent" prototype aircraft which only had 2 built.
2. The "parent" aircraft was designed as a replacement for a very well-known and respected predecessor.
3. The "subject" aircraft had three engines.
4. The "subject" aircraft was the first propeller-equipped aircraft to make a particular notable achievement.
Well, the Fokker Trimotor comes to mind pretty quickly, and seems to fit the clues. And it made all kinds of notable achievements. Thanks; Ernie P.


The Fokker F.VII, also known as the Fokker Trimotor, was an airliner produced in the 1920s by the Dutch aircraft manufacturer Fokker, Fokker's American subsidiary Atlantic Aircraft Corporation, and other companies under licence.

The F.VII was designed as a single-engined transport aircraft by Walter Rethel. Five planes of this model were built for the Dutch airline KLM. One of these planes, registered H-NACC, was used in 1924 for the first flight from the Netherlands to the Dutch East Indies. In 1925, while living in the US, Anthony Fokker heard of the inaugural Ford Reliability Tour, which was proposed as a competition for transport aircraft. Fokker had the company's head designer, Reinhold Platz, convert a single-engined F.VII A airliner (a 1924 Walter Rethel design) to a trimotor configuration powered by 200 hp Wright Whirlwind radial engines. The resulting aircraft was designated the Fokker F.VII A/3M. Following shipment to the US, it won the Ford Reliability Tour in late 1925. The Trimotor's structure comprised a fabric-covered steel tubing fuselage, and a plywood-skinned wooden wing.
Old 09-30-2014, 10:23 AM
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Nice try Ernie P., but not what I'm looking for.

1. I'm looking for a specific prototype "subject" aircraft built, which was a modification of another "parent" prototype aircraft which only had 2 built.
2. The "parent" aircraft was designed as a replacement for a very well-known and respected predecessor.
3. The "subject" aircraft had three engines.
4. The "subject" aircraft was the first propeller-equipped aircraft to make a particular notable achievement.
5. The "subject" aircraft was converted from the first of the 2 prototypes of the "parent" aircraft.
6. Crew of 1.
Old 09-30-2014, 04:59 PM
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Just for giggles,how about the Conroy tri turbo three?
Old 10-01-2014, 12:38 PM
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No, not the Conroy triple turbine DC-3.

1. I'm looking for a specific prototype "subject" aircraft built, which was a modification of another "parent" prototype aircraft which only had 2 built.
2. The "parent" aircraft was designed as a replacement for a very well-known and respected predecessor.
3. The "subject" aircraft had three engines.
4. The "subject" aircraft was the first propeller-equipped aircraft to make a particular notable achievement.
5. The "subject" aircraft was converted from the first of the 2 prototypes of the "parent" aircraft.
6. Crew of 1.
7. Only one prototype of the "subject" aircraft was ever built.
8. Swept wings on both the "parent" and "subject" aircraft.
Old 10-01-2014, 11:45 PM
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Sorry guys; been kind of busy. Thanks; Ernie P.
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1. I'm looking for a specific prototype "subject" aircraft built, which was a modification of another "parent" prototype aircraft which only had 2 built.
2. The "parent" aircraft was designed as a replacement for a very well-known and respected predecessor.
3. The "subject" aircraft had three engines.
4. The "subject" aircraft was the first propeller-equipped aircraft to make a particular notable achievement.
5. The "subject" aircraft was converted from the first of the 2 prototypes of the "parent" aircraft.
6. Crew of 1.
7. Only one prototype of the "subject" aircraft was ever built.
8. Swept wings on both the "parent" and "subject" aircraft.
9. The predecessor referred to in clue #2 above was a single engine piston aircraft with exceptional range and speed for its type.
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McDonnell XF-88B Voodoo - except it doesn't fit clue 9 ... or maybe it does. I get confused between "subject", "parent" and "predecessor".
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perttime -> You got it! Well done! This one even stumped Ernie P., so please pat yourself on the back!Note: The "predecessor" is the P-51 Mustang:"The XF-88 originated from a 1946 United States Army Air Forces requirement for a long-range "penetration fighter" to escort bombers to their targets. It was to be essentially a jet-powered replacement for the wartime North American P-51 Mustang that had escorted Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bombers over Germany."See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-88_Voodoo You're up!
Old 10-02-2014, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
perttime -> You got it! Well done! This one even stumped Ernie P., so please pat yourself on the back!Note: The "predecessor" is the P-51 Mustang:"The XF-88 originated from a 1946 United States Army Air Forces requirement for a long-range "penetration fighter" to escort bombers to their targets. It was to be essentially a jet-powered replacement for the wartime North American P-51 Mustang that had escorted Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bombers over Germany."See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-88_Voodoo You're up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rqlfhLdvc
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Oh dear, I need to come up with a question ... has anybody mentioned ... ... not recently

What aircraft?
1) it used a control system that had previously only been tried in the designer's previous experiments.
2) the flying surfaces could be folded for transport or storage.

(so far, this might fit many different aircraft. I'd be curious to know how many... )
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Chrislea Super Ace?
Flying Flea?

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Old 10-03-2014, 07:35 AM
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Nooooope....

What aircraft?
1) it used a control system that had previously only been tried in the designer's previous experiments.
2) the flying surfaces could be folded for transport or storage.

3) It was produced under licence in 3 countries
4) Wikipedia lists 11 countries as Military Operators
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Cierva C.30?
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Originally Posted by SimonCraig1
Cierva C.30?
That didn't take long... Your turn, SimonCraig1.

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The Cierva C.30 was an autogiro designed by Juan de la Cierva

- The experimental machine showed that the way forward was a tilting rotor hub fitted with a hanging stick extending to the pilot's cockpit with which he could change the rotor plane. This was known as direct control and was fitted to the C.30.
- The rotor could be folded rearwards for transport.
- (It was) built under licence from the Cierva Autogiro Company by A V Roe & Co Ltd (Avro), Lioré-et-Olivier and Focke-Wulf.
- Military operators: Argentina, Austria (1927-1938), Belgium, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway, Soviet Union, Spain (Spanish Republic), United Kingdom, Kingdom of Yugoslavia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cierva_C.30
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OLd film as civilian ambulance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV-T7Ewqt_U

Spanish reconstruction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrZ6IzCWXzA

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